Post: #1

Here is an fascinating discovery I made over the years. I used to be very beta (needy, desperate, oneitis, fixated on girls, whiny, pushover). I used to call girls too much, text too much, message too much, followed girls around, occasionally stalked the dorm rooms, give valentine day gifts to girls I liked, tried to have conversations even though they were looking away or at their foods, leave lengthy messages and get one word responses. The girls either did not respond, flake too many times, give let's just be friends once I reveal my feelings, become very cold/distant or get a boyfriend/guy friends to tell me to screw off. I suddenly get girl's attention(especially one I am not attracted) through being aloof. I get involved in hobbies, school, work, activities, hang out with my friends, and have cool adventures. I often stayed away from social media facebook, instagram, and twitter and turn off my phone. I become way too busy for girl's bs. The physically attractive girls who usually got a lot of attention from guys wanted to talk to me. A lot of girls grow up with this mentality "They are the big deal" and everybody worship the ground they step on. Then one guy does not bow down to their charms and looks. Their playing hard to get stop working anyone. I even give a dry, deadpan expression and give a rude do not give a crap attitude mixed with silly cockiness. Girls do crave the thrill of the chase and want to earn a man's attention. How long would need to keep up with the aloof game to land a girlfriend? Playing hard to get is becoming boring as I reach my 30s and would like to settle down. Currently 25.

Post: #2

Great you're getting attention, are you also getting bangs?

Post: #3

Aloof game isn't going to get you very far.

A guy walks down the street
He sees a woman he thinks is amazing
He looks down at the ground while she passes trying to portray value, disinterest, and options.
She walks out of his life forever.

Post: #4

I think what OP calls Aloof Game is just not being needy and stalkerish with girls you already know.
To him it seems aloof (from the perspective of previously being a self described needy/stalkerish beta) to not think everything a woman does/is is amazing and long for some attention of her.

Post: #5

Roosh on Aggressive Game vs. Aloof Game

Quote:The man who runs aloof game has less bangs than the man who runs aggressive game, but his quality is higher. You’re no longer a door-to-door salesman—you’re simply sitting at the desk filling backorders of a product that is in high demand. Prospects often come to you. I have much work to do in ironing out the specifics of aloof game, but it boils down to one thing—making her invest more time and energy into you than you do to her. Make her fill in silences more than you. Make her compliment, show affection, and touch more than you. Make her text more and send longer messages than you. Make her ask you out as much as you do.

Will this work if your value as a man is low? No. If any man has had to learn game, it’s because his value was low. Therefore he must start with an aggressive style of game. As his value rises, it will inevitably surpass that of the average woman he lays. He should then transition to aloof game.

Post: #6

Aloof game is more effective in social network game, i.e. at work, high school, college, wedding events.

An environment where long period of time is spent together for days, weeks and months.

A player knows when to implement aloof game, when it is call for it.

Post: #7

For your objective : to land a girl friend, aloof game is probably not gonna work.

Except, Aloof game might work if your value is high, within your social circle. You have some unique advantages, superior looks, etc. In which case the girl would be chasing you and you can turn that to a girl friend.

Post: #8

I use aloof game when I'm already in.

Post: #9

This post seems trollish. And I'm new as fuck.

But anyway, youre looking at it the wrong way. First off, you're 25, and already thinking about settling down? You've got at least 10 more years of fun ahead of you, why cut it short? Also, this "aloofness" you're trying to keep up, yes it works, but you've got to use it in conjunction with other techniques and actions.

Have you read bang? Have you started your first 100 approaches? Seems like you're worried about the wrong things.

Post: #10

An environment where long period of time is spent together for days, weeks and months.

Post: #11

Sociable, friendly and playful is the way to go.

Post: #12

Your aloofness is just a substitute for inaction and your ego's way of protecting itself. Yes, you are now game aware and realize neediness ain't sexy. You equate communication with neediness so thus you "practice aloofness".

However, there is a huge difference between communicating interest/acknowledging your desire that you want to fuck a chick and sub communicating this and over communicating your romantic, idealized ideas created between you and the imaginary girl voice in your head.

One is based in reality and the other is based in your head.

Positive communication makes the world go round. Once you hook, you can do some aloofness. You've remedied the back end of your game.

Still need to take care of the front end.

You probably have a fantastic imagination and can create a million and one "what if" scenario's. I'm not sure if I just projected my self diagnosis onto you or we're very similar.

OP, thanks for your post, it made me realize I'm practicing a shitty form of avoidance.

Post: #13

(12-11-2015 01:37 PM)LINUX Wrote:  Aloof game isn't going to get you very far.

A guy walks down the street
He sees a woman he thinks is amazing
He looks down at the ground while she passes trying to portray value, disinterest, and options.
She walks out of his life forever.

Exactly.

Truth is there's a place and time for everything. When you are with the girl one on one and have her full attention you can be aloof if that gets you off and she might like it. However, it won't get you far in other scenarios where you have to beep on girl's radar at first to even have a chance to game her.

You could be aloof at all times but better believe that when a expressive guy like me rolls in he will hook her attention like a motherfucker and you will struggle to come in back to the game.

Post: #14

Maybe aloof game works better in LTRs.

Post: #15

(12-17-2015 05:53 AM)Pride male Wrote:  Maybe aloof game works better in LTRs.

Who said "Even grown women like to be treated like they’re 8 years old." ?

Post: #16

(12-11-2015 01:37 PM)LINUX Wrote:  Aloof game isn't going to get you very far.

A guy walks down the street
He sees a woman he thinks is amazing
He looks down at the ground while she passes trying to portray value, disinterest, and options.
She walks out of his life forever.

I disagree that this scenario is representative of aloof game. This is more like apathy or timidity.

Aloof game to me is being the charming, self assured guy who doesn't give two fucks about her approval.

A guy walks down the street
He sees a woman he thinks is amazing
He stops in front of her, gives her a slight grin, and says "This may sound random, but those boots are really stylish.. where'd you steal them from?"
Flirty banter ensues and he gets the bang 2 days later
On the 3rd day she's frantically checking her phone every 5 minutes, wondering if he's going to text
He sees another woman walking down the street. He thinks she's amazing..

Post: #17

Perhaps aloof is the wrong word since it conjures up images of a guy in a club leaning against the wall quietly sipping his warm beer. What about emotionally distant? Or carefree? Hard to read? Not needy?

Post: #18

Are we discussing what aloof actually means? It has a definition:

a·loof
əˈlo͞of
adjective
1. not friendly or forthcoming; cool and distant.
"they were courteous but faintly aloof"
synonyms: distant, detached, unfriendly, antisocial, unsociable, avoidant, remote, unapproachable, formal, stiff, withdrawn, reserved, unforthcoming, uncommunicative, unsympathetic
2. conspicuously uninvolved and uninterested, typically through distaste.
"he stayed aloof from the bickering"

By extension of this, aloof game is calculated disinterest. Choosing to not concern yourself with things that are unimportant to you, or at least feigning a mild level of standoffishness. As far as women are concerned, this translates to a man who knows what he likes and doesn't pay any mind to things that are not of value to him. Somewhat mysterious and "march to be the beat of my own drum." May even be construed as uninviting and anti-social in some cases, but that will often times be seen as a challenge to a girl.

Aloof game does not work on a girl who is not already into you. Acting like you could "take it or leave it" with a girl that doesn't care about you yet will do nothing. The romantic view a lot of us have of an "aloof playboy" us a guy who is attractive, may look like he has money, but has a mysterious and reserved aura about him. This will draw women in - because women like hot guys who look like they are interesting and/or have money. Average dudes can't play that kind of game with a girl who is not initially turned on by you. You have to establish interest before she is willing to chase someone who is not giving her much to work with. A girl is not going to try to qualify herself to an aloof guy who she isn't invested in at all.

Post: #19

You articulated this well, GS. Aloof by strict definition implies complete indifference.

In terms of "aloof game" I think it's a little more complicated.. as in aloof "+" game

You're aloof as far as not seeking approving, giving no fucks, indifferent to her emotional highs and lows, not supplicating, etc. Basically you're doing you. You only allow her to be a part of your life on your terms, whether that's FWB, ONS, LTR.. your interests come first and you don't let her dictate the terms to you. In a way, the aloof side relates to the commitment/emotional side of the equation.

Combined with proper game (cocky funny, the ability to get her aroused, push/pull) this type of persona can be crack to women. They get attracted by your look, presence, and game techniques.. and they see the aloof side as a challenge they'll try to surmount.

At least that's my take on it

Post: #20

Aloof is a generic term now that game related green horn easily misinterpret as "Not giving a fuck" but a litlle bit of experience show the true meaning of the word.

Some older cats used the word "carefree" or "uncaring" asshole, notice that the word "asshole" can't be misinterpreted when those adjectives are put in front of it.

Caring Asshole Wrote:Girl: “I don’t give my number to guys I just met.”

Asshole who cares too much: “Well, fuck you, nobody asked for it.”

Girl: “You just did.”

Asshole who cares too much: “I was kidding. I would never go out with a bitch like you.”

Uncaring Asshole Wrote:Girl: “I don’t give my number to guys I just met.”

Asshole who cares thiiiiiiis much: “My heart will go on.”

Girl: “Well, you did seem like you wanted it.”

Asshole who cares thiiiiiiis much: “That was before I got distracted by your sister"

Heartiste

Reinterpret Aloof as not Butthurt.

Post: #21

(12-17-2015 04:34 PM)blck Wrote:  Reinterpret Aloof as not Butthurt.

*Not needy AKA having abundance. This shit all ties together.