Post: #1

When I first saw this scene, I never thought I would be posting it on a forum like this. I was married, pre- red pill, didn't know what the hell I was doing. But...I knew this scene was genius. It's a great example of not only a quick number close, but a great example of building interest and tension in a short time frame.

1 minute (and four seconds). That's it, that's all you need to let a woman know she can trust you with her sexuality. And don't watch it thinking it's just a scripted movie or something like that. This could have happened and will happen again. Actually, the first chic I banged after my divorce was an elevator pickup...not this clever, mostly just asking if she wanted to grab lunch, but still.




- No hesitation. As soon as he steps in the elevator he expresses interest by staring at her, then 'opening her'.

- 6 second stare. He makes her feel slightly uncomfortable before opening her by checking her out. Great preparation for a short simple question, "Are you makin a house call?"

- She doesn't initially reciprocate. Her discomfort is revealed in her response, "Have I seen you professionally?". Note, she's not expressed interest here with her deadpan response...she's still reading this weirdo who stared at her for 6 seconds and knows what she does.

- He indirectly makes fun of her profession. "Guys use their revolver...and then they get to talk to you about their feelings." Watch closely. It's not until the end of this statement that she begins to open up. She smiles and reciprocates possible interest. Notice the text of his statement. There's nothing funny about it. The funny thing is the way he says it, him teasing her about her profession (teasing by proxy...her pussy client cops who have to talk to a therapist because they fired a gun).

- He's self-effacing. The Suffolk / Harvard exchange is funny because he teases her, then when she questions him, he's self-effacing saying he doesn't really know if Harvard has night school. He's making fun of her on absolutely no knowledge of the facts. This screams of irrational self-confidence (https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2012/01/...of-game/).

- The number close. "No that's alright I'm a detective, I'll find you......No seriously I'm joking I need the card." That's a joke on her. He's making fun of her for not getting his joke, and in doing so, eases the number exchange.

The entire scene is a great example of what I use (when doing well) and what I've written of before, ambiguous game. It all screams of plausible deniability. At any point in the interaction, Matt Damon could laugh her off as if he teases all women like this. If she 'rejected him', he could laugh it off as if he wasn't trying to game her anyway. Yes, he expresses genuine interest in her, but in an aloof way. This is what women want. They want a man who keeps them guessing, who is serious but also funny, sincere but sarcastic, who is interested but independent. She knows, or at least perceives, from this minute of interaction, that he would be a safe guy for her to express herself sexually.

(I thought about posting to newbie forum, but I feel this requires a higher level of game. At the very least, it requires a certain level of confidence...maybe even cockiness.)

Post: #2

If someone held an elevator door open to have a conversation, I would punch him in the face.

Post: #3

I liked this scene, too. And who would punch Jason Bourne in the face? That guy is a huge badass!

Post: #4

(12-30-2015 03:17 PM)heavy Wrote:  When I first saw this scene, I never thought I would be posting it on a forum like this. I was married, pre- red pill, didn't know what the hell I was doing. But...I knew this scene was genius. It's a great example of not only a quick number close, but a great example of building interest and tension in a short time frame.

1 minute (and four seconds). That's it, that's all you need to let a woman know she can trust you with her sexuality. And don't watch it thinking it's just a scripted movie or something like that. This could have happened and will happen again. Actually, the first chic I banged after my divorce was an elevator pickup...not this clever, mostly just asking if she wanted to grab lunch, but still.




- No hesitation. As soon as he steps in the elevator he expresses interest by staring at her, then 'opening her'.

- 6 second stare. He makes her feel slightly uncomfortable before opening her by checking her out. Great preparation for a short simple question, "Are you makin a house call?"

- She doesn't initially reciprocate. Her discomfort is revealed in her response, "Have I seen you professionally?". Note, she's not expressed interest here with her deadpan response...she's still reading this weirdo who stared at her for 6 seconds and knows what she does.

- He indirectly makes fun of her profession. "Guys use their revolver...and then they get to talk to you about their feelings." Watch closely. It's not until the end of this statement that she begins to open up. She smiles and reciprocates possible interest. Notice the text of his statement. There's nothing funny about it. The funny thing is the way he says it, him teasing her about her profession (teasing by proxy...her pussy client cops who have to talk to a therapist because they fired a gun).

- He's self-effacing. The Suffolk / Harvard exchange is funny because he teases her, then when she questions him, he's self-effacing saying he doesn't really know if Harvard has night school. He's making fun of her on absolutely no knowledge of the facts. This screams of irrational self-confidence (https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2012/01/...of-game/).

- The number close. "No that's alright I'm a detective, I'll find you......No seriously I'm joking I need the card." That's a joke on her. He's making fun of her for not getting his joke, and in doing so, eases the number exchange.

The entire scene is a great example of what I use (when doing well) and what I've written of before, ambiguous game. It all screams of plausible deniability. At any point in the interaction, Matt Damon could laugh her off as if he teases all women like this. If she 'rejected him', he could laugh it off as if he wasn't trying to game her anyway. Yes, he expresses genuine interest in her, but in an aloof way. This is what women want. They want a man who keeps them guessing, who is serious but also funny, sincere but sarcastic, who is interested but independent. She knows, or at least perceives, from this minute of interaction, that he would be a safe guy for her to express herself sexually.

(I thought about posting to newbie forum, but I feel this requires a higher level of game. At the very least, it requires a certain level of confidence...maybe even cockiness.)

"I really want to fuck your brains out, yet really don't care if I don't get to"

Post: #5

We need to talk about how to do this in real life. I was in the elevator during my last night in Miami and this cute girl (oh so cute) hops on. I see her passports in her hand so I open her by asking her where she was from. She smiles, says she's from Holland and we start chit chatting. Then the elevator lands on the first floor 30 seconds later and she smiles, says bye and away she goes. Anyone ever pulled this off in real life on an with a chick you've just met in an elevator (cause I sure haven't)?

Post: #6

(12-30-2015 03:50 PM)doc holliday Wrote:  We need to talk about how to do this in real life. I was in the elevator during my last night in Miami and this cute girl (oh so cute) hops on. I see her passports in her hand so I open her by asking her where she was from. She smiles, says she's from Holland and we start chit chatting. Then the elevator lands on the first floor 30 seconds later and she smiles, says bye and away she goes. Anyone ever pulled this off in real life on an with a chick you've just met in an elevator (cause I sure haven't)?

I think Aerosmith pulled it off at least once.

Post: #7

I've done it once with a Latvian girl, long time ago. Needless to say, it wasn't like in the movie - after all, it's a script. Frankly, any time a hottie gets in the lift, I open her (as long as no-one else in the lift. If other people, much less often). Most of the time, they do not engage themselves, just send a shy smile towards you at best so you need to keep going.

My default opener, if nothing else comes to mind, after whichever floor she presses, I say 'Floor X? Never been there, what it's like? And take it from there. The 'lift game' requires thinking on your toes and wit - this probably advanced stuff and too much for most folks.

In my successful attempt, I think I was so driven, i made her forget to get out of the lift on her floor. Followed up with a date but no closing.

Post: #8

Okay Paul Janka../.

Post: #9

Ha yes the Paul Janka pickup breakdown. Janka's biggest takeaway with to "assume familiarity" when using your opener with women.

Basically you don't address them as a stranger like "Hi, excuse me miss. I noticed you look like a psychologist. Are you making a house call?"
You address them like you already know them.. "Are you making a house call?". You assume familiarity with them. No introduction like you are at some meeting. You are already friends.

Post: #10

(12-30-2015 03:19 PM)LINUX Wrote:  If someone held an elevator door open to have a conversation, I would punch him in the face.

You could use some cranberry juice

Post: #11

(12-31-2015 01:33 PM)civpro Wrote:  

(12-30-2015 03:19 PM)LINUX Wrote:  If someone held an elevator door open to have a conversation, I would punch him in the face.

You could use some cranberry juice.

Post: #12

Elevator pickup is for true artists not for 51 yr old out of shape (but well groomed and confident) dudes.

Every Monday many years now I go to a big company as a consultant. Today a cute brunette opened ME. She must have been abt 26 yr old. I developed a thread as good as I could. Alas, the building code in Greece practically rules out buildings of more than 9 storeys.

To pull this one off, a young master would have been required.

Post: #13

(12-30-2015 03:30 PM)BrewDog Wrote:  I liked this scene, too. And who would punch Jason Bourne in the face? That guy is a huge badass!

My money's on LINUX.

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

Post: #14

@Land

If any chick opens me, i assume her reptilian brain noticed my good genes and thinks we'd be a good match.

I then owe it to her genes to use her logical conversation to make it an emotional joy ride for her.

Two keys
1) assume it's on
2) don't take her on a logical tangent

Is this line of business what you dreamed about when you were a little girl?

Then from there tease her about being too OLD, jaded and can't keep up with you.

That could happen in the space of three floors.

Develop your mind for the game

WIA

Post: #15

(10-24-2016 02:00 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  If any chick opens me, i assume her reptilian brain noticed my good genes and thinks we'd be a good match.

Develop your mind for the game

Shaking off a lifetime of complacency.

Post: #16

(10-24-2016 01:24 PM)Landsturmmann Wrote:  

Elevator pickup is for true artists not for 51 yr old out of shape (but well groomed and confident) dudes.

Every Monday many years now I go to a big company as a consultant. Today a cute brunette opened ME. She must have been abt 26 yr old. I developed a thread as good as I could. Alas, the building code in Greece practically rules out buildings of more than 9 storeys.

To pull this one off, a young master would have been required.

Parallel universe....or maybe this universe:

"Dear Diary,

I was so horny today and in the elevator was a well dressed guy that just did it for me. I talked to him and he was so cute (I don't know why certain older men just do it for me...but) and then my floor came and I was just looking at him hoping he'd stop the elevator or close the doors so I hesitated, but he just said goodbye.

I had such a fucking amazing orgasm laying in bed earlier thinking about him pulling my panties down and fucking me with his pants around his ankles. Maybe I'll let Mike from accounting take me out and then fuck me afterwards. I just wish he was older, he is just so awkward like most guys my age"

Post: #17

(12-30-2015 03:50 PM)doc holliday Wrote:  We need to talk about how to do this in real life. I was in the elevator during my last night in Miami and this cute girl (oh so cute) hops on. I see her passports in her hand so I open her by asking her where she was from. She smiles, says she's from Holland and we start chit chatting. Then the elevator lands on the first floor 30 seconds later and she smiles, says bye and away she goes. Anyone ever pulled this off in real life on an with a chick you've just met in an elevator (cause I sure haven't)?

In Vegas, NYC, or Miami? Absolutely. Hell, you meet way more hot girls in elevators in Vegas in a few days than hardcore gaming almost anywhere else in the world, at least if you're at a decent hotel.

Anywhere else? Nope.

Did you ask her out for a drink? Exchange phone numbers? 30 seconds is plenty of time.