Post: #1

I got this hot Chaldean girl's number from day game and she agreed to hang out with me but she says she just wants friendship. Now I know that girls often change their minds so the best strategy is to hang out, escalate, and see what happens. I plan to just bring my A game and show her a very fun time.

Also Hank Moody once gave me some great advice about girl's not having any plan but just working based of feelings. For example she may plan not to cheat on her boyfriend but she got caught up in her feelings and it just happened.

Anyway I'm still new to game and am wondering if any of you more experienced players have been in this situation before and if you have any tips on how I can get the best outcome possible.

Post: #2

(12-29-2015 04:27 PM)Dawn_Snow Wrote:  I got this hot Chaldean girl's number from day game and she agreed to hang out with me but she says she just wants friendship. Now I know that girls often change their minds so the best strategy is to hang out, escalate, and see what happens. I plan to just bring my A game and show her a very fun time.

Also Hank Moody once gave me some great advice about girl's not having any plan but just working based of feelings. For example she may plan not to cheat on her boyfriend but she got caught up in her feelings and it just happened.

Anyway I'm still new to game and am wondering if any of you more experienced players have been in this situation before and if you have any tips on how I can get the best outcome possible.

They change their mind about lots of things, but usually not who they designate to the friendzone. Your willingness to hang out with her after being assigned this role will also telegraph "beta" to her hindbrain. I suggest you move on. If she contacts you after you've been banging other chicks, then you may have a shot. Otherwise, no.

Post: #3

I think the friendzone is a false construct. You can always next or bang.

Post: #4

I would definitely not go out with her...but maybe if I was a young guy with less experience, I'd go because I would have false hope I could turn her. And then learn the lesson the hard way.

She's shut you down before you've even hung out with her.

The only caveat would depend on how she said "she says she just wants friendship". If she said it with sarcasm like she wanted to get fucked, I'm all in.

I'm assuming based on your post she said it sincerely.

Post: #5

(12-29-2015 04:41 PM)h3ltrsk3ltr Wrote:  I think the friendzone is a false construct. You can always next or bang.

Post: #6

(12-29-2015 04:27 PM)Dawn_Snow Wrote:  Now I know that girls often change their minds so the best strategy is to hang out, escalate, and see what happens. I plan to just bring my A game and show her a very fun time.

I haven't experienced this to ever be true. This is like one of those fun romance comedies where the awkward guy loves the super hot chick and he is so persistent and adorable in her life that she finally concedes. I think of the movie "Can't Buy Me Love".

Nothing is 100%, but the vast majority of the time, if a girl has made up her mind that you're a friend... then you're staying a friend.

Post: #7

Hmm day game girl, gives you her number, is down to hang, but friendliness you immediately...

That's a tough look.

I'm more worried about this issue of you wanting to bring your A Game...
What is that?
Trying to hard is a reliable way of not getting the pussy.

The last place you wanna be is on a date outside with her, or indoors somewhere private. Landing a glancing, unintentional touch on her thigh & getting a twitchy reaction, or a "What are you doing, you know I said we can hang nothing more"...

I'd just throw out a disclaimer before we meet, along the lines of:
Blah, blah, blah, I respect your honesty. But I don't see myself as your friend. Blah, blah, blah so if we met, I can't make any guarantees. Blah, blah, blah"

Just a general framework. You have license to adjust it & tweak it to your situation. & then carry on gaming.

You seem adept a day game, so have no fear, women are in endless supply.

Post: #8

All caps FRIENDZONE = premature oneitis.
Suck it up and next. As in: best outcome possible is you forget about her by gaming new girls.

Post: #9

Get her drunk ; if shes feeling horny you might get lucky !

Post: #10

Isolation and alcohol is all it takes.

Post: #11

Hey,Yeah you are so right, it is true girls change their mind,but most of the time when they say they only want friendship, well it is because they just prefer to send you in the friend zone. Maybe She has boy, she is interested in another person. In my experience, you can get success few times, but in general you will be dissapointed. It is up to you, spend time and effort for nothing.

Post: #12

(12-29-2015 07:18 PM)BrewDog Wrote:  

(12-29-2015 04:27 PM)Dawn_Snow Wrote:  Now I know that girls often change their minds so the best strategy is to hang out, escalate, and see what happens. I plan to just bring my A game and show her a very fun time.

I haven't experienced this to ever be true. This is like one of those fun romance comedies where the awkward guy loves the super hot chick and he is so persistent and adorable in her life that she finally concedes. I think of the movie "Can't Buy Me Love".

Nothing is 100%, but the vast majority of the time, if a girl has made up her mind that you're a friend... then you're staying a friend.

You may hear or know of real-life cases where two people in the same social circle just one day hooked up and became a couple. It gets cast as a rom-com "I just didn't know the perfect guy was right in front of me!" or old-biddy "we just had the friendship grow into something else" scenario.

Both these explanations are bunk. I've gathered data on these cases whenever I can and have noticed what's normally going on:
-One or both of them have attraction, but they aren't both available at the same time.
-The dude does some demonstration of masculinity, strength, social dominance, etc - this could be getting a hip job, coming into money, getting in shape, or leading the group in one way or another. Then the girl's attraction switches on overnight. She hasn't "changed her mind" as much as he's presented as a different man who is now worthy of her, and she certainly hasn't "had her attraction grow."
-In some cases AFBB applies, she senses the wall coming and locks down a beta orbiter.

Post: #13

It seems like she "friendzoned" because you didn't convey a confident, sexual man .

Remember , you HAVE to make her pussy tingle with your first impression. Sure you got the number ,that's cool but women give that shit out like candy .

I wouldn't worry about one girl you cant get ,worry about working on yourself and then you'll be tripping over them.

Post: #14

(12-30-2015 06:53 AM)Gmac Wrote:  Isolation and alcohol is all it takes.

Wouldn't this be dangerous? A girl who friendzoned you then slept with you out of alcohol is much likely to feel tricked, and would feel like calling rape on you. If you are ever in the friendzone you are expendable to her.

Post: #15

(12-31-2015 06:07 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  

(12-30-2015 06:53 AM)Gmac Wrote:  Isolation and alcohol is all it takes.

Wouldn't this be dangerous? A girl who friendzoned you then slept with you out of alcohol is much likely to feel tricked, and would feel like calling rape on you. If you are ever in the friendzone you are expendable to her.

If you are that worried about false rape accusations you better get out of the game fast.

Post: #16

I'm of the opinion that if you have time to come up with ways to fuck your friend, you have time to approach another chick. I say this because I've been in that painful circumstance, and what I got out of it is that you have 3 options:

1)You can just forget about it. IMO it's a waste of time because you could be enjoying your time with this person for it's own sake. She might link you up with her friends. It's good social proof, especially if she's attractive. You'll learn more about women and the type that you like.

2)Play the friend. If you actually like this girl a whole lot more than is healthy for you and have no problems feeding in to a fantasy that might not even come true for you, play the friend. One caveat I'd add to this that a lot of other guys don't seem to get is this: actually just want to be really good friends with her. Don't even let your stifled desires have any clout in your decision making process. This takes self control and you know what else? She already probably knows where you're at. If you're young, there's a good chance she shows things about you through observation and intuition that you don't know. With friends, be transparent, and trust me when I say that a solid-gold friendship with a quality girl will do more good for your life than a night with some slightly chubby sycophantic skank who drinks natty light. There's also a chance the narrative will pay off and she WILL see what a great guy you are compared to all the other fuckboys trying to get it in. Gotta massively raise your SMV over time, though.

3)Don't slip. Don't let yourself become full-friend, even if "just friends," is the pretense you're operating on until you see where she stands with you. From there, have a ton of fun, be kind of a wily ass, and drink a little to see if you can seal the deal.

Post: #17

(12-29-2015 04:27 PM)Dawn_Snow Wrote:  I got this hot Chaldean girl's number from day game and she agreed to hang out with me but she says she just wants friendship.

I'm more interested about what you did that got you dumped straight after getting the digits.

Post: #18

If these guys made it, then maybe it can be possible to also escape the "Mighty Friendzone", but beware...only the perfect of the plans and infinite patience succeed.

Post: #19

(12-31-2015 03:40 PM)FunkCoup Wrote:  I'm of the opinion that if you have time to come up with ways to fuck your friend, you have time to approach another chick.

This is a great aphorism, and can be mad-libbed into other forms:

"I'm of the opinion that if you have time to come up with ways to get yourself promoted at work, you have time to apply for other jobs."

"I'm of the opinion that if you have time to drive to a fast food joint, you have time to make a quick healthy meal at home."

"I'm of the opinion that if you have time to spend hours on internet forums chatting about fitness, you have time to go to the goddamn gym."

Your time is valuable. Always consider whether you're spending your time trying to figure out a puzzle that shouldn't be solved, and instead switch to a better puzzle.

Post: #20

(12-29-2015 04:27 PM)Dawn_Snow Wrote:  I got this hot Chaldean girl's number from day game and she agreed to hang out with me but she says she just wants friendship. Now I know that girls often change their minds so the best strategy is to hang out, escalate, and see what happens. I plan to just bring my A game and show her a very fun time.

Also Hank Moody once gave me some great advice about girl's not having any plan but just working based of feelings. For example she may plan not to cheat on her boyfriend but she got caught up in her feelings and it just happened.

Anyway I'm still new to game and am wondering if any of you more experienced players have been in this situation before and if you have any tips on how I can get the best outcome possible.

Being friends is totally different than being in the friendzone. Being in the friendzone actually means that she's not your friend. It basically means that you're her bitch. You should find out if you're in the friendzone and quick. And if you do find that you're in the friendzone the only way to escape it is to drop her for good.