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Moving to either Buffalo, NY or West Palm Beach, FL
Hello gents,

Just got a call from a Warrant Officer in the Coast Guard and he gave me two choices for locations. I will be advancing in rank this July and will be moving that month from the D.C area. He wants an answer by tomorrow. I'm trying to decide on which area to move, and would appreciate your recommendations on people familiar with both areas, or any one of them. I will be there from 3 to 4 years depending on circumstance.

About me for those who don't know: 30 years old, African American, E4 in the United States Coast guard, single, no kids.

I've looked into both areas. Not too sure of the quality of girls in Buffalo nor West Palm Beach for that matter, but I know West Palm Beach is an hour away from Miami which would blow Buffalo (and most U.S cities) out of the water. However West Palm Beach itself has an much older population and a large amount of senior citizens, and Miami is a tough city to game in from my intel. Not too familiar with Ft. Lauderdale (which is about a 45 minute drive). Buffalo from what I have heard has a decent nightlife, a lot of good bars and restaurants, and very friendly people. The weather there as we all know is atrocious. It's almost two hours from Toronto, which I hear nothing but bad things about game wise but I'm sure has other offerings outside of that.

Any help is appreciated.
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West palm are you nuts even considering Buffalo?
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Expected to see name crossed out. Go to the place famous for hot girls in bikinis, not the place way out in the middle of nowhere that's famous for amazing lake effect snowfall levels

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(01-21-2016 03:19 PM)RoastBeefCurtains4Me Wrote:  Expected to see name crossed out. Go to the place famous for hot girls in bikinis, not the place way out in the middle of nowhere that's famous for amazing lake effect snowfall levels

Have you been to or lived in both? If not, don't get fresh with those with higher post counts and rep points then you.
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MdW, WPB. Do not even consider Buffalo. Buffalo is a dead city. People in South Florida that are not in Miami are also quite friendly. Needless to say there are plenty of attractive girls up and down the coast. It's just a way better life style there man.

I'm down in that part semi-freq because of parents, so this is not speculation.

Pack your bags and your sunscreen (pretty sure black people need that too Big Grin)).
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Decision between Buffalo NY and a beach town in FL?

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(01-21-2016 03:34 PM)Menace Wrote:  MdW, WPB. Do not even consider Buffalo. Buffalo is a dead city. People in South Florida that are not in Miami are also quite friendly. Needless to say there are plenty of attractive girls up and down the coast. It's just a way better life style there man.

I'm down in that part semi-freq because of parents, so this is not speculation.

Pack your bags and your sunscreen (pretty sure black people need that too Big Grin)).

Yeah, I figured I'd ask because I know plenty of people who lived in South Florida and I have gotten mixed reviews. West Palm Beach from what I heard has an aging population and is dominated by chain restaurants and that was something I was looking to avoid. The Buffalo area is dead economically but I am not looking to live either there (or Florida) permanently and has a lot of decent nightlife spots (the bars stay open until 4 pm plus there are several 24 hour Indian casinos nearby and plus Toronto is not too far away) plus Bills games and tailgates are pretty fun.

I know it seems like a mismatch on paper but I'm not too much of a beach person plus I hate the humidity as bad if not worse than the cold.
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(01-21-2016 02:37 PM)MdWanderer Wrote:  Hello gents,

Just got a call from a Warrant Officer in the Coast Guard and he gave me two choices for locations. I will be advancing in rank this July and will be moving that month from the D.C area. He wants an answer by tomorrow. I'm trying to decide on which area to move, and would appreciate your recommendations on people familiar with both areas, or any one of them. I will be there from 3 to 4 years depending on circumstance.

About me for those who don't know: 30 years old, African American, E4 in the United States Coast guard, single, no kids.

I've looked into both areas. Not too sure of the quality of girls in Buffalo nor West Palm Beach for that matter, but I know West Palm Beach is an hour away from Miami which would blow Buffalo (and most U.S cities) out of the water. However West Palm Beach itself has an much older population and a large amount of senior citizens, and Miami is a tough city to game in from my intel. Not too familiar with Ft. Lauderdale (which is about a 45 minute drive). Buffalo from what I have heard has a decent nightlife, a lot of good bars and restaurants, and very friendly people. The weather there as we all know is atrocious. It's almost two hours from Toronto, which I hear nothing but bad things about game wise but I'm sure has other offerings outside of that.

Any help is appreciated.

You serious bro?

Visit Buffalo right now. This is how it is for 9 out of 12 months.

Save yourself the agony.

Edit: Alright read more of the thread. OP if you like cold weather you might find the town enjoyable. Buffalo has chicken wings and Wegmans which make putting up with closed down part of the year more enjoyable. Chippawa street is where all of the bars and nights clubs are. Duff's Wings are better than the Anchor Bar.
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RE: Moving to either Buffalo, NY or West Palm Beach, FL
MdW, Toronto may be 2-3 hours away, but you have to cross a border. Add some random amount of time for that. Realistically, you will hardly ever go to Toronto. I used to live about an hour drive from NYC in CT, and I went maybe 2-3 times per year and I didn't even have to drive. Miami is 1 hour away and you can party until 8 am if you want.

I also don't see how or why chain vs. non-chain restaurants or casino's make any difference whatsoever. Is eating out that important to you? You simply cannot compare Miami nightlife (or Ft. Lauderdale for that matter) to Buffalo. But hey, it's your call.
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(01-21-2016 06:01 PM)Menace Wrote:  MdW, Toronto may be 2-3 hours away, but you have to cross a border. Add some random amount of time for that. Realistically, you will hardly ever go to Toronto. I used to live about an hour drive from NYC in CT, and I went maybe 2-3 times per year and I didn't even have to drive. Miami is 1 hour away and you can party until 8 am if you want.

I also don't see how or why chain vs. non-chain restaurants or casino's make any difference whatsoever. Is eating out that important to you? You simply cannot compare Miami nightlife (or Ft. Lauderdale for that matter) to Buffalo. But hey, it's your call.


Good points, but I have read that Miami is one of the hardest cities to game in on these forums. I don't know the quality of women in Buffalo and I was hoping to gain some insights. I usually consider everything besides women when moving to a place, although the quality and approachability of women are an important consideration.

I do know that Buffalo has a burgeoning food scene with its famous wings, pizzas, and beef on weck sandwiches, and the food truck and craft beer scene is popping up there too. I recently contacted both bases and just found out (before I posted this thread) that I won't get housing money in West Palm Beach but will get it in Buffalo so I would have more money for travel and going out and would have my own place to bring back girls.

My best friend from high school lives in South Florida and he was usually great with women growing up, but has said that since moving there he has hit a dry streak.
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In Buffalo you could be under 6 feet of snow by late September. STAY THE FUCK OUT OF UPSTATE NEW YORK. You're practically in Canada

Floriduh isn't paradise, but you could learn at the feet of El Mech, and run Seeking Arrangement game up and down the coast.

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Toronto is a hated city on these boards.

I'd pick Toronto over Buffalo 100% of the time.
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RE: Moving to either Buffalo, NY or West Palm Beach, FL
Since we have met, I can confidently say WPB. Buffalo is an old falling apart forgotten about town with some of the worst weather in America.

WPB is pleasant, has good food, things to do, and would be a dream station. High quality women and social life are possible. Florida also has no state income tax so your check will reflect this once you declare yourself a resident.

WPB is not Miami, vastly different. But welcome, its an hour and 10 minutes!
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I used to live in edit lol I loved it and it was dirt roads, hog dog fights, scooter burgers, but don't dare step on Jupiter island..

I could pull out of scooters nightly or troll the gas stations back in the days.

Palm beach has even more to offer and younger people come out of the gardens etc or get nasty in riviera beach for black hoes.
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(01-21-2016 06:20 PM)MdWanderer Wrote:  Good points, but I have read that Miami is one of the hardest cities to game in on these forums.

It requires a certain skillset. It's also very possible to do well in Miami, but get destroyed in other cities, notably Los Angeles.
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I lived in Buffalo for a year and other areas in Western/Central NY most of my life. If you like the seasons, especially winter, than you will like Western NY. If you enjoy going to beautiful State parks, camping, wine country, lakes, woods, then Upstate NY is better.

There are plenty of good looking girls in Buffalo also and the cost of living is inexpensive of course.

I don't know anything about West Palm Beach, but if you like latina's (as I do) you will have greater access to them down there, and a shorter, cheaper flight to Colombia!
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(01-21-2016 08:42 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  
(01-21-2016 06:20 PM)MdWanderer Wrote:  Good points, but I have read that Miami is one of the hardest cities to game in on these forums.

It requires a certain skillset. It's also very possible to do well in Miami, but get destroyed in other cities, notably Los Angeles.
Skill set my ass.
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(01-21-2016 09:43 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  
(01-21-2016 08:42 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  
(01-21-2016 06:20 PM)MdWanderer Wrote:  Good points, but I have read that Miami is one of the hardest cities to game in on these forums.

It requires a certain skillset. It's also very possible to do well in Miami, but get destroyed in other cities, notably Los Angeles.
Skill set my ass.

What does it require then?
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I could see Buffalo being good if someone had the abilities to make up their own harem I guess. The last call there is also pretty late (4 AM IIRC), but the weather sucks and there really isn't much to do.


Edit: Onto summed it up pretty well.
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They have really good wings in Buffalo...



Oh wait you can get them everywhere now.
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(01-21-2016 02:37 PM)MdWanderer Wrote:  Hello gents,

Just got a call from a Warrant Officer in the Coast Guard and he gave me two choices for locations. I will be advancing in rank this July and will be moving that month from the D.C area. He wants an answer by tomorrow. I'm trying to decide on which area to move, and would appreciate your recommendations on people familiar with both areas, or any one of them. I will be there from 3 to 4 years depending on circumstance.

About me for those who don't know: 30 years old, African American, E4 in the United States Coast guard, single, no kids.

I've looked into both areas. Not too sure of the quality of girls in Buffalo nor West Palm Beach for that matter, but I know West Palm Beach is an hour away from Miami which would blow Buffalo (and most U.S cities) out of the water. However West Palm Beach itself has an much older population and a large amount of senior citizens, and Miami is a tough city to game in from my intel. Not too familiar with Ft. Lauderdale (which is about a 45 minute drive). Buffalo from what I have heard has a decent nightlife, a lot of good bars and restaurants, and very friendly people. The weather there as we all know is atrocious. It's almost two hours from Toronto, which I hear nothing but bad things about game wise but I'm sure has other offerings outside of that.

Any help is appreciated.

The Metropolitan Detroit area (meaning Detroit + its suburbs) where I currently reside is a shimmering cosmopolitan paradise compared to Buffalo, NY. That's how sorry Buffalo, NY is. Also keep in mind that I am a native of the Chicago area (lived there for close to 30 years) & I've visited Miami, Southern California, NYC, lotta the best areas in USA for nightlife. For the love of God please choose West Palm Beach. If your choice was between Albany, NY and West Palm Beach, MAYBE I'd have you consider Albany only because you could theoretically hit up NYC at least once a month. Buffalo is damn far from NYC though, may as well be in a different state. West Palm Beach is a hop skip and a jump from places like Fort Lauderdale. Miami is not a bad drive once a month or even once every couple weeks. Buffalo is more like an overgrown, dying small town with way too much lake effect snow.
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(01-22-2016 12:09 AM)offthereservation Wrote:  They have really good wings in Buffalo...



Oh wait you can get them everywhere now.

Buff's wing sauce is one of a kind. I've had that shipped to my place before because i've wanted it so badly.

Regardless, i hate snow. I've seen 4 seasons my entire life. Winter in Western/ central NY is hell. Frigid, sub zero, and more snow to count. Shit followed me to Boston where it was even worse.

I've lived in LA and the UK right now. The UK is a tropical paradise compared to what the weather is In Buffalo right now. I refuse to live in cold climates with lots of snow.

Prepare to need snow tires on your car, watch the poor thing rust out, scrap feet of snow off of everything, snow blow or shovel your sidewalks, and watch night life disappear when October hits.

Cold weather makes people disappear.
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Yeah, good points, especially about the weather. Mind you, Florida would've been a much easier pick but they will be giving me barracks housing there while in Buffalo I will make more money and have my own place. It sucks but looks like there are trade offs to everything.
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(01-22-2016 07:35 AM)MdWanderer Wrote:  Yeah, good points, especially about the weather. Mind you, Florida would've been a much easier pick but they will be giving me barracks housing there while in Buffalo I will make more money and have my own place. It sucks but looks like there are trade offs to everything.

What's barracks housing like? Do you have a private room you can bring girls to or is it shared sleeping arrangements?

I was under the impression they give housing stipends in the coast guard.
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Barracks housing is like dorm rooms at a major college campus, except for the bringing home girls part. The opposite sex is not allowed in them. They do give housing stipends but only at some stations. Plus were subject to cafeteria food the whole time in the barracks; the rooms have no stoves.
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