Post: #1

A lot of people have opined that 'London Daygame' doesn't 'work' on English girls, or that the proponents of said model never approach English girls.

Whilst I could argue that it isn't the case, I thought it would be better to show an example. This guy is good (especially at not letting the conversation die in the beginning), so I thought I'd share.













Good opening statements, good handling of intermittent shit tests, good escalation and good handling of LMR in terms of getting them to his place.

Post: #2

I don't know why but I find running after and stopping a girl very cringe inducing.

Post: #3

(01-24-2016 05:42 PM)BambiNotForLong Wrote:  I don't know why but I find running after and stopping a girl very cringe inducing.

In some ways people might see it as romantic, deterministic or some other thing like that.

To me, it just looks like desperation.

Post: #4

If you want to find out what does and doesn't work in daygame, do daygame. Attempting to gauge it by sitting at home watching edited, highly cherry picked and often duplicitious videos is pointless.

Post: #5

I like this guy saw videos of him on Youtube before. His game is a slow burner with multiple location changes.

Always take what you see with infields with a grain of salt though. Just because he brings a girl home doesn't mean he ends up banging her. LMR can be really strong.

Don't know how advanced he is really. Difficult to judge when watching a few videos. I could get someone to film myself infield banging 20 Tinderellas and make myself out to be a pickup guru when I'm still developing in game and not near the level of the true masters.

That dancing is fucking terrible though.

Post: #6

(01-24-2016 05:59 PM)Pareto Wrote:  

(01-24-2016 05:42 PM)BambiNotForLong Wrote:  I don't know why but I find running after and stopping a girl very cringe inducing.

In some ways people might see it as romantic, deterministic or some other thing like that.

To me, it just looks like desperation.

You don't need to "run", but you do need to get her to stop, and the 'jog and loop round' is effective. Plus, it gives her a second as she sees you in her peripheral vision. If those charity people who annoy you on the street did it, I think they'd be much more successful!

This type of stop/opener was discussed in this thread a couple of years ago after Roosh brought it up and some guys had similar reactions to you two.

Serpico...I was just showing an example of the London style being used on English girls, since I've noticed a few people complaining that Krauser et al never hit on English girls with it...but why would they when they are location independent! Several of the UK guys here have run direct daygame on English girls (me included), so I was just showing an example. There are other videos as well, like the Street Attraction guys, for instance.





No "run up" on that one!

Post: #7

My gf at the moment is an English girl from a daygame stop, it works fine.

Post: #8

Good luck finding an English girl in London...

Post: #9

Actually that last video is good example how the London accent has now changed. You have a white guy who is talking with the Ali G type accent. (Not trying to derail the thread...)

Post: #10

@Pinocchio The problem is that a lot of English guys selling pickup advice focus on foreign girls and tourists.

Game denialists and haters basically say that game only works on the gullible and naive.

On this side of the pond, all we ever hear is that U.K. Chicks are fat, ugly, classless, and horrible to be around. The only good ones are not on the average man's pay scale.

Same criticisms are made about
- NZ
- Aus
- Canada
- D.C.
- SF

WIA

Post: #11

^^^
WIA, I think you already know some of the below, but for our readers out there:

The English guys selling pickup advice disproportionately lay foreign girls because they happen to be hotter. In other words, if they encounter a hot English girl, they don't go, "oh, you're English - bye!"

As for the tourists, they disproportionately do that because solo tourist girls are typically easier to lay (they're more adventurous, almost no chance of them ruining their social status at home, etc.)

As for Anglosphere girls being on the lower end, that's only relative to EE/SEA/LatAm girls, and that's only comparing averages. There's a bell curve around each average, and the Anglosphere girl curve does overlap the EE/SEA/LatAm girl curve. We could debate to what extent the curves overlap, and where they'll go in the future, but that would be "more talk, less action."

Post: #12

Here's something that i've pondered about English girls.

When they're young, they're smoking hot. I drive by a bunch of schools each day as they're letting in and the girls are seriously super attractive. I don't get it. There's a sweet innocence about them and their accents just add a cherry on top.

Yet when they reach their twenties they hit the wall hard.

What causes this? Is it the very low drinking age? Girls getting hammered young and hitting the wall earlier? Bad genetics? Going to tropical locales and burning themselves up? A combination of all these factors?

Post: #13

(01-27-2016 04:57 AM)The Beast1 Wrote:  Here's something that i've pondered about English girls.

When they're young, they're smoking hot. I drive by a bunch of schools each day as they're letting in and the girls are seriously super attractive. I don't get it. There's a sweet innocence about them and their accents just add a cherry on top.

Yet when they reach their twenties they hit the wall hard.

What causes this? Is it the very low drinking age? Girls getting hammered young and hitting the wall earlier? Bad genetics? Going to tropical locales and burning themselves up? A combination of all these factors?

Northern European skin ages badly, particularly on blondes, so I guess those girls are at a disadvantage anyway. You see it in Scandi and the Baltics too. Added to poor diets and alcohol. Class plays a part as well though, as it does with everything in the UK. Plenty of girls, given that they look after themselves can still look good into their early 30s. As is the case anywhere.

Post: #14

^ Another thing about English girls (or British girls in general - although I haven't been to Scotland or Northern Ireland, and have only been to Wales once or twice) across all classes is that they wear too much makeup. To the point where they actually look worse because of it. They look nice in the day, when they're at studies or whatever, but then like clowns at night.

I went to University with this girl, posh girl from London, very naturally good looking. Even with zero makeup on she looked very attractive, which is rare. One of the most naturally beautiful girls I've ever known. So, with a little bit of makeup on she looked amazing, but she'd fucking pile it on before nights out. Pounds of foundation., the 'orange' look. She looked fucking ridiculous and objectively worse than in the day. Not every girl is like this, but enough of them are for me to mention it as a point.

Post: #15

I'm in Northern Ireland. Young women here, just like in the rest of the UK, are generally binge-drinkers, and this ages them real fucking quick. Their teens and twenties are spent guzzling an addictive and toxic (but taxable!) liquid before wolfing down a 12'' pizza on the way home. I'm exaggerating only slightly. There is also the "orange" look. Girls think they have to pile on tons of foundation and make-up to look attractive on a night out.

Their diet consist of chips, pies, alcohol, pizza. It's not like there's a huge obesity epidemic here, but there are lots of chubsters and girls with rolls - once you get the clothes off. Something you're not going to see in the EE. I banged a Polish girl the other night and when I got her naked I had to stare at her body for a few seconds just out of sheer wonderment at the rarity of it here.

There are plenty of exceptions though - I see many a slim-waisted girl at the gym.

Post: #16

(01-26-2016 08:32 AM)RexImperator Wrote:  Actually that last video is good example how the London accent has now changed. You have a white guy who is talking with the Ali G type accent. (Not trying to derail the thread...)

I watched a couple of his vids a while back and had to shut it off because of his accent. I understand accents change with times, but it's so affected. No hating, but why the fuck would you talk like that? The guy's a Londoner from a Polish background and he sounds like that. At some point he must have made a conscious decision to adopt that accent. Fucking weird state of affairs. Given that he's into Game and self development i don't know why he wouldn't reign it in a bit, bound to put of classier girls i would've thought.

Edit - just realise that's not the same guy i was referring to. This is the guy i was thinking of. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHdGMTn8KMg

Post: #17

(01-27-2016 08:13 AM)serpico Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 08:32 AM)RexImperator Wrote:  Actually that last video is good example how the London accent has now changed. You have a white guy who is talking with the Ali G type accent. (Not trying to derail the thread...)

I watched a couple of his vids a while back and had to shut it off because of his accent. I understand accents change with times, but it's so affected. No hating, but why the fuck would you talk like that? The guy's a Londoner from a Polish background and he sounds like that. At some point he must have made a conscious decision to adopt that accent. Fucking weird state of affairs. Given that he's into Game and self development i don't know why he wouldn't reign it in a bit, bound to put of classier girls i would've thought.

Edit - just realise that's not the same guy i was referring to. This is the guy i was thinking of. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHdGMTn8KMg

Yeah I've noticed that. Both Richard (the guy in your video) and Eddie (the guy in mine) have very 'urban' accents, quite literally like Ali G. Weird.

Post: #18

@262

I've consumed a lot of UK pua material.
Over here, it's not very convincing to Americans to say that ALL the "fit" girls are foreign.

That's not believable. The obesity rates in America are greater than the UK, but most of us in "horrible" cities still find enough thin and attractive girls.

Furthermore, if you're British, one would imagine that the English player understands the brains of his birds better than some immigrant or transplant. Assuming of course that understanding women's behavior is actually helpful to banging them.

I'm assuming this video proves that game does work on the locals.

WIA

Post: #19

(01-27-2016 10:02 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  @262

I've consumed a lot of UK pua material.
Over here, it's not very convincing to Americans to say that ALL the "fit" girls are foreign.

That's not believable. The obesity rates in America are greater than the UK, but most of us in "horrible" cities still find enough thin and attractive girls.

There's still an epidemic of fatness, but... generalising, and especially in London, foreign girls in the UK are just plain 'nicer' than the local girls.

You get a vibe on the street for which girls are approachable, and the english girl with the permanent bitch face, too much makeup, and an angry stride through the crowd just says 'no way'. They make you work harder in set, deliver harsh blowouts, and are more likely to string you along or go cold over text.

You just get to a point where you feel relieved when you hear an accent on approaching. Of course it's going to be easier to get good sets on film with that kind of girl.

"I'd hate myself if I had that kind of attitude, if I were that weak." - Arnold

Post: #20

Of course there are attractive English girls. Not in the same ratio as british Poles, Ukranians etc, but they are out there. Thing is an English 8 will be harder to pull than a Polish 8. She will also have many more orbiters, more likely be in a relationship, act more entitled and her attitude will be as if she's a 9.

So a cynical person might say that EE girls in UK are to an extent 'low hanging fruit'. Personally I dont see it that way, as i prefer being with EE's anyway. They tend to be more interesting, especially the ones that move abroad - it shows drive, independence and self-confidence for a girl to move to a new country. They also act more feminine, aren't likely to show SJW traits, and generally have less drama. Again, this is all generalisations, but it's often English girls attitudes / behaviour that makes them unattractive, not just physical appearance.

Post: #21

Quote:Yeah I've noticed that. Both Richard (the guy in your video) and Eddie (the guy in mine) have very 'urban' accents, quite literally like Ali G. Weird.

This should probably go in the R.I.P. Britain thread but it's part of the demographic shift and the loss of the Cockney accent as it is replaced by the "Ja-fake-an" accent among the London working class.

http://www.spectator.co.uk/2013/03/slanging-match/

Quote:Over the past decade, however, the Cockney of my generation has been replaced with the street slang known as ‘Jafaican’, a form of patois picked up by black yout’ in London and eventually by kids from pretty much all ethnic and social backgrounds in towns and cities throughout the UK.

Like all such trends, Jafaican has been picked up by the middle-class, middle-aged and well-educated as well as teenagers. Indeed, it has been suggested by experts in linguistics and dialect that Jafaican will have completely replaced Cockney by 2030, and there have been attempts to argue that the appropriation of such slang by posh folk reflects both a lack of confidence in British cultural values and a crush on ghetto authenticity.

Post: #22

I also have one of those urban accents. It's very annoying and I don't know how to fix it.

Post: #23

Post: #24

(01-27-2016 05:18 PM)BambiNotForLong Wrote:  I also have one of those urban accents. It's very annoying and I don't know how to fix it.

To borrow from a famous Labour Party slogan, Elocution, elocution, elocution...

Post: #25

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