Post: #1

We all know the point of Roosh's much-maligned "How To Stop Rape" article was to present a thought experiment that if, hypothetically, rape were legal, women would take greater measures to protect themselves against it.

The exact conditions outlined in this thought experiment are playing out in a different way for men in the West right now. Spermjacking is, for all intents and purposes, legal in the West. There are no laws on the books against it and it is almost never punished.

Spermjacking is the act of fishing a used condom out of the trash and self-impregnating with the semen inside by a woman, usually without the man's knowledge and against his wishes. However, it is common to use "spermjacking" as an umbrella term for any kind of reproductive fraud used by women to trap men into long-term commitment (financial or otherwise) against their will. This includes lying about being on birth control, "forgetting" to take birth control, poking holes in condoms, or sabotaging contraception in any other way against the wishes of one partner. This is the context in which I am using the term "spermjacking".

It is a serious threat to the independence, autonomy, and well being of all men. A 2001 Scottish survey showed that 42% of the survey's 5000 female respondents were willing to employ reproductive fraud to get pregnant in spite of their partners' wishes.

The thing is, spermjacking is incredibly hard to prove. It is very difficult to establish such a motive unless the woman admits to doing it, or we find condoms with holes poked in them. How often is that going to happen? Birth control fails, condoms break, and sometimes flaky women actually do genuinely forget to take birth control. It is very difficult from a legal standpoint to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that these eventualities are the result of purposeful sabotage. This is not even to touch on the notion of personal responsibility and personal agency that must, in all fairness, extend to men in this situation. We, as autonomous, independent adult men, and our own personal agents, must shoulder at least some of the responsibility for ignoring the clear-cut risks and ejaculating inside of a fertile woman without protection, regardless of what she tells us. Anything less is to assume we are children with no agency, which I would hope we are not. Having laws on the books punishing spermjacking would be problematic from a legal perspective for all of these reasons.

Even if spermjacking were provable, female privilege in the US is such that it would not be punished. Even in the case of instances of paternity fraud (a very similar crime) that are proven by DNA, laws in many states still put men on the hook for child support, in order "to serve the best interests of the child." Even when women admit to committing reproductive fraud in a clear cut manner, their identities are protected if they choose and they face no repercussion either way. Talk show host Wendy Williams once encouraged a woman to lie to her husband about being on birth control on national television, to the wild applause of just about the entire female audience. A video clip of this show can be seen here, along with Atlanta-based red pill radio host Tommy Sotomayor's brutal evisceration of Williams for her careless and unfeeling actions.

It is clear then that the legal system will not protect us. Thus, all men can do in the face of this very real threat to our independence and freedom is take active measures to protect ourselves. And this is exactly what we are doing in significant numbers (not all of us, but a significant number). We are (mostly) insisting on using condoms no matter what (a small handful of fearless rawdoggers aside). We do not believe any woman who says she is on birth control unless we watch her take it. We make sure to bring our own condoms and never use hers if we end up at her place. We try to avoid finishing on the inside. Some of us look for red flags and stay away from women who show obvious signs of baby rabies if we aren't ready for kids ourselves. We even resort to extreme measures such as putting hot sauce in used condoms before throwing them in the trash, a measure suggested by legendary red pill radio host Tom Leykis. A few of us are getting vasectomies when we know we don't want kids, despite massive societal pressure not to do so. We are eagerly awaiting the introduction of Vasalgel to the US and in some cases, are donating money to its advancement. Not all of us, again, but a sizable number of us. Society does not care about us, so we must protect ourselves, and that is what many of us are doing. It does us no good to sit and whine about it and try in vain to get the laws changed as the feminine pussies over at r/MensRights are doing; taking active steps to protect ourselves is the only answer.

All of this proves, in some way, some part of the crux of Roosh's thought experiment. Conditions exist in the West where it is, for all intents and purposes, legal for unmarriageable women to force us into fatherhood, marriage, and commitment against our will (which, arguably, is an equal crime to an undesirable man forcing sex on a woman against her will), so therefore many of us men are taking active measures to protect ourselves.

Needless to say, but of course I have to say it for the retards and SJWs reading this, I DO NOT under any circumstances believe that rape should be made legal. Not now, not ever. Rape is one of the most heinous crimes that a person can commit, causes permanent trauma to its victims, and real rape (the kind that happens outside of the imagination of a scorned pump-and-dumpee) is much easier to prove than spermjacking. When proven beyond a reasonable doubt, rape must be punishable by a lengthy prison sentence and permanent social pariah status for a proven rapist. Even so, the legal punishment for rape can not "un-rape" a raped woman nor can it erase the sexual trauma. Prevention and looking out for one's self is ultimately the best solution, as has been proven multiple times (programs aimed at women taking active measures to stop rape have been proven frequently to reduce rape more than telling men not to rape). Roosh's ultimate point about personal responsibility is valid.

Post: #2

On prevention: Does flushing the condom with water a couple of times help enough?

Post: #3

The only legal solution to "spermjacking" or unwanted kids post-conception in general are Consent to Pregnancy contracts.

1. You bang a chick. She gets knocked up for whatever reason.

2. She goes to the doctor, is officially declared knocked up.

3. She is legally obligated at that point to list potential fathers and they are officially notified.

4. Once notified, potential father(s) agrees to pregnancy going to full term or not. If not, father is under no legal obligation to support child. In a more extreme example, the state could force women to have abortions who cannot get a 2nd person to agree to support the child to prevent these mothers from turning into welfare queens and being a burden on society. Welfare to widows being an exception.

There are enormous legal and ethical hurdles to overcome but making something like this happen would go a long way in resolving a lot of the unfair leverage women currently have. Fat chance the aforementioned happening, however.

Coming back to reality now, the answers are:

1. Be picky about who you bang. Any woman who seems content with or has an incentive to have an unplanned kid should not get banged. If she comes off as a religious catholic girl for example, pretty safe to say she is gonna keep the kid versus the feminist atheist. If you have moderate game, you should be able to sniff out some details about a woman to gauge her beliefs, motivations, and willingness to have an unplanned kid. Bang accordingly.

2. Wrap it up. Pull out even if wearing a rubber.

3. Flush condom down toilet or take it with you. Never leave in the presence of a woman alone. Fuck all that hot sauce shit. Treat a used condom like a goddamn chemical weapon that will destroy any woman who comes into even close proximity to it. Always piss and wash before the next round.

4. For when you are really paranoid or get a bad vibe post-sex, make the woman take a morning after pill even if you followed the above steps.

That's all a man can do today until Vasalgel gets here. If and when it does, the game is gonna change forever. I've seen way too many men have their lives derailed by selfish twats who kept unwanted kids; ruining or almost ruining the kid and father's life in the process. I cannot wait until these types of women get shut out of the reproduction cycle and purged from the genetic pool. There will be happier men, happier kids, and happier families across the board with the only losers being women who truly can't get a man to commit to them (i.e. the low quality women). It will be glorious.

Post: #4

True, and that was the exact point of my original post. All we can do is look out for ourselves in a culture where women can use babies as a weapon to lock us down and get away with it.

As for the question of washing out the condom, that might help. I'd still put hot sauce in that fucker afterwards.

Post: #5

Women are very sneaky this is definitely a possibility often overlooked and I'm not basing this solely from my 3 month trip to Cuba ; )

Post: #6

I had heard putting hot sauce in the condom after use would make for a very painful experience if they try to use it for sperm jacking.

Post: #7

(02-11-2016 04:19 AM)cascadecombo Wrote:  I had heard putting hot sauce in the condom after use would make for a very painful experience if they try to use it for sperm jacking.

Bingo.