Post: #1

This could be a straight from the Internet and to your Home situation, or it could be a Date/Day 2 situation.

Pre Amble - Old chicks (24 and up) vs Young Chicks (23 and younger)

I don't deal with the 18-23 set at all. As the god Moma would say, I'll take a lay up, but I'm not actively looking for that.

I like em 24+.

One of the advantages to young girls, especially when they deal with young guys, are down for all of that, "let's hang out", "we'll watch netflix". Even a few years later, some of them chicks have low expectations and are still cool with the whole "hook up culture"

In my experience, once they get out of the teenage/college years, they expect a guy to put more effort into the date. This is where all that beta stuff comes in.

All that means is you've got to use more psychology. Doesn't mean you need to come out the pocket.

My dirty little secret is that I actually like women and I like dates. What a lot of guys see as pointless, I see as a chance to evaluate the chick. A couple entrees, dranks, and a shared dessert tells me a lot about whether I want to spend any more time with a chick. More so than if we just got dranks. (sort of like the "time distortion" concept of bouncing a chick from venue to venue)

But once she passed my smell test, and she's coming through to watch a movie, that's when it's time to get serious.

1. Based on my past dealings with the chick
a. Is she really DTF? - I know this based on the tenor and frequency of the texting before hand (What, you're only sending short logistical texts? get your text game up). I will play the movie game differently.

b. If she's on the fence, how "hip to the game" is she? Some girls have been to enough rodeos that they know when you're trying to stack the deck when you ask her over. She doesn't want to have sex tonight, but she probably shaved her legs just in case. (lol)

If she's trying to hold out and prove that she's a good girl I use a different movie strategy (which means, she's put me in the boyfriend category, which is actually a problem with the fact that I use dates to evaluate chicks and she's probably aware of that...everything is connected)

2. Movie selection
- DTF Girl? - Go with something that's entertaining ..enough...but not so engrossing or so boring as to kill the sexual vibe.

- On the Fence - Movies that provoke visceral reactions.
a) horror- so she can bury her head into your shoulders
b) suspense - so she can grab your hand.
c) comedy - roller coaster of emotions

Chicks are much easier to get at when they go through these emotions.

I don't recommend
- art films
- documentaries

- science fiction/fantasy - anything where you need to explain what is happening. Why? For me, I can't contain my disgust when a chick asks me "what just happened" even though the both of us have been watching the same movie and neither of us have left. It means she's incapable of handling basic shit. Took a chick to see Avengers, Why Jah, Why did I do such a thing. And when I *cringe* at her dumbness, she notices, feels bad, no longer wants to bang. (for me a better long term solution would be to not react....but I kind of think of my emotional honest as a way to soft next a chick)

What about Romance and Rom-Coms?
If it's raunchy, yes.
If it's a tearjerker, undying love, save that for your Main, or when you've turned this prospective chick into a main chick.

One last thing

Mining Nostalgia

If I rock with a chick closer to my age, I can throw on Love Jonez, Brown Sugar, Love and Basketball, and get her into a mindspace that recalls her youth. (white girls loved Grease for whatever reason. Blood In, Blood out never worked on Mexicanas, but Selena did)

Using nostalgia is a great way to dig deeper into the brain, make connections, get comfort and rapport....

You need a fair bit of edge and keeping your frame to stop this from turning into a friend situation, a love situation. But touching on it, and then getting her to focus on fun, youth, etc can be very fruitful.

For me, the ideal situation post bang, is that she wants to keep fucking you, but is sure you aren't boyfriend material. Because it's very easy to become boyfriend material on your end.

So if you want to mess with this, figure out what was popular with chicks her age when they were in middle and high school.

3) The Set Up

- shoes at the door
- house smelling good
- bathroom spotless for the pre-bang pussywipe
- stocked with toilet paper (and contact solution in medicine cabinet, under the sink)
- candles, incense, lube, massage oil, and condoms on standby

Would I be the kind of guy to have a bunch of stuff in the arm chair so she can only sit next to me on the couch?

Am I the sort of guy that has small cushions on my couch in case the bj pops off?

I wouldn't be the dude that has no clocks or blinking cable box showing the time, would I?

Would I put anything suggestive on the coffee table?
I wouldn't display anything interesting on the book shelf?

She can't see the wine bottle from the couch, or notice any of that stuff when she comes in?

It's up to you, but if you have your own place, think through what people normally do when they come over.

You want to make her feel comfortable, and you don't want the part of her that's fighting the idea of getting dicked down to latch on to anything. But I also want to demonstrate personality and put things into play.

4) The Sequence
- she knocks on the door
- I get the door
- hug/cheek kiss (break the touch barrier)
- shoes off
- offer libations or snack
- chit chat/small talk/flirting (start the heat again)
- get her seated on the couch
- disappear for a second, let her take in what's around her
- come back, more chit chat, more flirting
- start the movie.
- sit next to her

So if she's DTF, the physical contact can start like you'd normally start.

If she's on the fence, the whole thing is a slow burn.

- lean back, shoulder to shoulder
- let her lean into you
- if you're a jokey kinda guy, do the obvious yawn and your arm over her shoulder. If not, be bold and just put your arm over her shoulder

Basically I wait a little longer before I start physically feeling her out. At a certain point, her body language will relax, and you proceed like the DTF.

5) In terms of the physical

1) 2 steps forward, 1 step back
2) we shouldn't be doing this, but do it anyway
3) Slow boil, plateau, slow boil. I.E tease her

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That's basically it for me.

What do you guys do?
Where can I improve?
What have I not thought of?
What are some other angles?

WIA

Post: #2

Something I've done to get chicks where I want to sit(the couch) is I'll place a throw pillow that has a nice design on it and a extremely soft blanket in that same spot.

They can't resist it. They are chick magnets.

Another thing is I'll sit in the arm chair first so their only is option is the couch. Then get up, offer drinks, snacks and then sit down next to her as you hand her the drink or food. Just real casual and smooth.

The rest is on point nothing else to add. Suspense and horror movies are the go to. Especially if they have "make you jump" parts.

Post: #3

(02-26-2016 06:58 PM)realologist Wrote:  Something I've done to get chicks where I want to sit(the couch) is I'll place a throw pillow that has a nice design on it and a extremely soft blanket in that same spot.

They can't resist it. They are chick magnets.

Another thing is I'll sit in the arm chair first so their only is option is the couch. Then get up, offer drinks, snacks and then sit down next to her as you hand her the drink or food. Just real casual and smooth.

The rest is on point nothing else to add. Suspense and horror movies are the go to. Especially if they have "make you jump" parts.

That throw blanket is so money.

I've had carpeted spots and hardwood floors.
If you've got hardwood, you need an area rug.

All that stuff that I found so annoying, actually has a practical purpose.

WIA

Post: #4

(02-26-2016 07:06 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

(02-26-2016 06:58 PM)realologist Wrote:  Something I've done to get chicks where I want to sit(the couch) is I'll place a throw pillow that has a nice design on it and a extremely soft blanket in that same spot.

They can't resist it. They are chick magnets.

Another thing is I'll sit in the arm chair first so their only is option is the couch. Then get up, offer drinks, snacks and then sit down next to her as you hand her the drink or food. Just real casual and smooth.

The rest is on point nothing else to add. Suspense and horror movies are the go to. Especially if they have "make you jump" parts.

That throw blanket is so money.

I've had carpeted spots and hardwood floors.
If you've got hardwood, you need an area rug.

All that stuff that I found so annoying, actually has a practical purpose.

WIA

I have hardwood now. I have the area rug to match the throw pillows and throw blanket.

I forgot the most important part. I keep the house cold. I like it that way and it just adds to my game. The girls tip toe to get their feet off the cold hard wood floor. On to the rug, on to the couch and underneath that warm blanket that just happens to be placed in that perfect spot.

Post: #5

Good write up.

Horror is hands down the best
- Lot of suspense where you can talk and make moves without paying full attention
- AGGHH! moments where you can make some physical progress
- Fake AGGHH! moments where you scare the fuck out of her when something is just about to happen
- They are generally shorter movies 80-100 minutes. Fuck watching some 3 hour Iron Man movie.

Have TV (or monitor) set up so you have to watch it from your bed. Have a no shoe rule in the house.

Also if its late at night I have a spare pair of PJs that are super comfortable for girls to wear. Especially if they wore over jeans you can get them to change, way easier to escalate and makes them feel more comfortable.

Post: #6

You guys are actually watching movies when you get a girl over?

Choose a movie and download it - make the moves on her in the interim.

Post: #7

Can't remember the last time I had a girl over and we actually watched a movie.

Had a few over to watch a fight or a game that I wanted to see but movies are just a pretense. In my experience if a girl is coming over to my place she knows the deal and it's pretty much game on after some initial chit chat.

Post: #8

All I'll add is the movie that I've had the best results with.

The King of NAC, for me, has been 'Drive,' with Ryan Gosling. Although I guess it's not officially NAC because it's not on Netflix.

I've thought about why it's so good specifically for girls:
1. Few have seen it and are immediately intrigued by a Gosling movie they haven't seen. Don't worry, it's not romantic.
2. It's very chill, up until a few surprisingly grisly moments. Under WIA's recommendations, this movie would fall under suspense.
3. It's not overly complicated. The main character is a stunt driver who hustles as a getaway driver and barely says anything.
4. It's hipster catnip. Even to my judgmental-ass, the movie is visually 'beautiful,' and it scratches that indie itch nearly every bitch has.

I've watched that movie at least 6 times.

Another tip, a lot of the shots in that movie serve as great pics for online game.

Post: #9

(02-26-2016 06:36 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  I don't deal with the 18-23 set at all. As the god Moma would say, I'll take a lay up, but I'm not actively looking for that.

I like em 24+.

Post: #10

LOL!

(02-26-2016 09:56 PM)Mr. Pink Wrote:  

(02-26-2016 06:36 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  I don't deal with the 18-23 set at all. As the god Moma would say, I'll take a lay up, but I'm not actively looking for that.

I like em 24+.

Post: #11

Have a good alcohol selection on hand, several types of vodka, wines, beer, scotch, etc.

Also if you say you'll order food that can help entice them a bit. Pizza or Thai are my fave foods for Netflix & Chill & MOST girls like either.

Post: #12

Marijuana

Post: #13

Good thread, Arch.

My two cents.

The selection of an appropriate visual spectacle is critical in generating the amorous vibe needed to get the juices flowing, and to get the mental synapses of her lizard-brain fired up.

Too often, this facet of the art of seduction is neglected. But it's just as important as dress, drinks, conversation, etc.

My opinion is that we need to see a movie as a "visual spectacle generating emotion" and not as a story. The goal is to generate some strong emotion in the girl: vague fright, playful humor, or awe.

Remember: stories don't matter, emotions matter. Don't pick the movie for the story, but for the emotion that it arouses.

One of these three emotions are what we should be trying to cultivate: vague fright, playful humor, or awe.

Vague Fright: Women love to be comforted by a masculine man after having been vaguely brought to a fearful state by seeing something scary.

Remember, I am talking about "vague fright" not "raw terror" or "disgust." You want the type of horror movie that is on the slightly scary side, but not too shockingly terrifying. In other words, avoid the really scary ones, or repulsive ones. None of that "Saw" bullshit. You want more of the mid-level, generic type of scary movie, like "Mothman Prophecies," "Scream", and stuff like that.

Playful Humor: Gentle, bantering comedy of no consequence works well here. It should not be too crazy, or too wacky. Again, middle of the road stuff works best. You want to get a nice, playful vibe going, and keep it going. Any of Will Ferrell's movies are good.

Some of the stand-up comedy stuff is also great for this.

Even though he's old, Eddie Murphy's stand-up comedy movies from the 1980s work great. Everybody loves him, and he's edgy enough to be funny but not too bitter.

Awe: Girls love great cinematic spectacles. Or anything that inspires awe. Movies with big sets, lots of costumes, high production values, and things like that. Check out, for example, "The Last Emperor."

Honorable mention: "damsel in distress" movies

I've had great luck with the movie "La Femme Nikita." It's a French thriller from the 1990s. Girls seem to really like the moral dimension of the story, which involves the conversion of a wayward female criminal into a government assassin. It also has a romantic element thrown in, which engages the emotions.

Another good "damsel in distress" movie is "Panic Room."

One last thought:

It's generally best to avoid art films, documentaries, science fiction, or extremes of any sort, unless she is cool with it or suggests it.

And absolutely avoid war films. Girls hate them. I had a buddy once in college who made the mistake of taking a date to see "Platoon" and he said the rest of the night felt like being in a mortuary.

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Post: #14

(02-27-2016 02:09 AM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  It's generally best to avoid art films, documentaries, science fiction, or extremes of any sort, unless she is cool with it or suggests it.

And absolutely avoid war films. Girls hate them. I had a buddy once in college who made the mistake of taking a date to see "Platoon" and he said the rest of the night felt like being in a mortuary.

In general, the movie doesn't really matter. If a girl is really headed to your place to watch netflix, chances are she's not coming for the movie.

Unless the girl is really picky, it won't matter. I can put on a documentary about how sex is bad, and it'll be fine.

Make the environment comfortable, have a nice chat - the movie etc...is really just background noise. A lot of my dates involve watching a movie of some sort, and every time - the movie matters not.

I wish I could type more, but my computer is breaking - half of my keys aren't even working :/

Post: #15

Just like logistics are key to pull her to your place, indoor logistics are also key.

I start off watching some rubbish/music on TV in the living room. You can drink some wine at this point. Then I tell her after about 30 minutes that I have a movie we can watch <insert movie name> I have it on my laptop.

I stand up pull out a hand and walk her to the bedroom where the laptop just happens to be located.

We lie on the bed. Start holding her and feeling her.

Click play on the movie.

After 5 minutes we're fucking. <insert some disqualifier while escalating: "I'm not that type of boy"/"we're not doing anything"/"it doesn't count"/"it's too hot here for this"/"I'm just making it more comfortable"/"stop tempting me I'm trying to watch a movie".

I did this yesterday on a second date with a girl, I did exactly the same thing on the first date as well. We watched 5 minutes of some prized twat dressed in a spiderman costume (Deadpool) jump into a car and kill lots of bad people.

Then my cock was inside her.

Close shutters. Open flaps.

Roll credits.

Post: #16

(02-26-2016 07:37 PM)Windom Earle Wrote:  You guys are actually watching movies when you get a girl over?

Choose a movie and download it - make the moves on her in the interim.

Yeah I was just gonna write that lol

If a girl comes over to watch a movie we normally don't get past the intro titles ..

Quote:Also if its late at night I have a spare pair of PJs that are super comfortable for girls to wear. Especially if they wore over jeans you can get them to change, way easier to escalate and makes them feel more comfortable.

PJs ??? How old are these girls that you are inviting over - 16?

If I asked a girl if they wanted to wear my PJs (I don't own any PJs btw) they would just straight up laugh at me lol. I'd laugh too if I was a girl. That PJ game I find pretty odd I have to say.

Post: #17

Why would you go for old women who are harder work when you can have younger women who are hotter and easier?

Post: #18

It's about time, that we turn the art of Netflix and chill into a science!

Post: #19

@Chicken lover

I have game.
WIA

Post: #20

Waiting for the haters to come out and admonish you for not going for "pure and innocent 18-23 year olds" and choosing "old washed up hags"......

As if 18 year olds don't get railroaded already....

Oh wait, they already arrived.

Post: #21

@Cattle Rustler, it's the internet. Everyone gets trolled, hated on, or questioned.

WIA

Post: #22

So going for 18-21 year olds who are hotter, easier and more pleasant = lack of "game"? That's like saying Roosh has no game because he chose younger, hotter EE girls over DC girls. It's less an issue of game than of common sense and getting the best quality for the same effort. I'm not a troll or a hater, I was genuinely wondering why you prefer 25 year olds over 19 year olds, are they higher quality to you or something?

18 year olds aren't pure and innocent, but I've found them a lot better than 25 year olds. All other things being equal they are more feminine, more pleasant, less used up. They have their downsides but nowhere as many as old women.

Post: #23

@Chicken

You can keep trying to prove your point, but it's falling on deaf ears.

Your more than welcome to start your own thread.

WIA

(02-27-2016 12:41 PM)ChickenLover9T9 Wrote:  So going for 18-21 year olds who are hotter, easier and more pleasant = lack of "game"? That's like saying Roosh has no game because he chose younger, hotter EE girls over DC girls. It's less an issue of game than of common sense and getting the best quality for the same effort. I'm not a troll or a hater, I was genuinely wondering why you prefer 25 year olds over 19 year olds, are they higher quality to you or something?

18 year olds aren't pure and innocent, but I've found them a lot better than 25 year olds. All other things being equal they are more feminine, more pleasant, less used up. They have their downsides but nowhere as many as old women.

Post: #24

If you invite a girl over for a movie, you're essentially suggesting you guys bang. ASD goes on. Is the trick to simply not suggest it unless it's obvious?

To WIA: are you saying Netflix & Chill is usually your 2nd date procedure?

Post: #25

(02-27-2016 10:12 AM)Ice Wrote:  

(02-26-2016 07:37 PM)Windom Earle Wrote:  You guys are actually watching movies when you get a girl over?

Choose a movie and download it - make the moves on her in the interim.

Yeah I was just gonna write that lol

If a girl comes over to watch a movie we normally don't get past the intro titles ..

Quote:Also if its late at night I have a spare pair of PJs that are super comfortable for girls to wear. Especially if they wore over jeans you can get them to change, way easier to escalate and makes them feel more comfortable.

PJs ??? How old are these girls that you are inviting over - 16?

If I asked a girl if they wanted to wear my PJs (I don't own any PJs btw) they would just straight up laugh at me lol. I'd laugh too if I was a girl. That PJ game I find pretty odd I have to say.

I think the Situation and Pauly D used the PJ move on the Jersey Shore show.