Post: #1

Gentlemen the sword of Democles has fallen,

I've been going to my city's local pub crawl for a while now. Easy place to meet tourist pussy. Every Friday and Saturday this pubcrawl hits all the biggest clubs in the main nightlife district in my city (I live right next to that). I was very tight with the organizers going in, was their best customer by far.

Last weekend was a total cockfest 50 guys and like 4 chicks. At the first bar stop there was these 2 hot girls from boston who I gamed to some success. I convinced them to join the crawl. Things were going well.

Later in the night this other blond american girl comes out of nowhere and befriends them. She however did not like me and at some point she decides to physically push me away while telling me to "fuck off".

Being a bit tipsy myself and in no mood to take shit I told her "I'm not going anywhere honey" and that was her cue to go to the organizer.

Guy wasted no time, he kicks me out of the crawl on the spot.

Now I just got a message from him: someone recognized me as a "pro-rape activist", I am no longer allowed on the crawl, he forbids me from speaking to any of his staff and clients and he says that he'll get me kicked out from any club he sees me at.

I know he's very tight with the clubs because he brings in a lot of clients every night so he indeed probably has the sway to do that.

Welcome to 2016 gentlemen. Where every white night bouncer need only hear a woman's sigh or hiss to kick you out.

What happens when you take away nightgame from a man?

Post: #2

(03-18-2016 10:12 AM)Just_Die Wrote:  What happens when you take away nightgame from a man?

He learns daygame.

Post: #3

(03-18-2016 10:17 AM)Suits Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 10:12 AM)Just_Die Wrote:  What happens when you take away nightgame from a man?

He learns daygame.

That's right, street is where no bouncer is the law. I'll even do night street cigarette game. I'll bring a jack and coke in a bottle, save a ton of money. Ain't all bad. But fuck.

I regret nothing and never will though.

My view is that almost no niche seems to be safe anymore. Become a yoga teacher: school kicks you out the second some girl complains. Street and online game seems to be the only real safe thing.

Post: #4

(03-18-2016 10:22 AM)Just_Die Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 10:17 AM)Suits Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 10:12 AM)Just_Die Wrote:  What happens when you take away nightgame from a man?

He learns daygame.

That's right, street is where no bouncer is the law. I'll even do night street cigarette game. I'll bring a jack and coke in a bottle, save a ton of money. Ain't all bad. But fuck.

I regret nothing and never will though.

Good. Why spend money in places that view you as nothing more than a replaceable ATM?

Nightlife is built around the notion that men will spend money just to gain access to a place where he might get laid.

If they don't want your business, spend your money some other way that will make you happy.

Or come join me in Asia.

Post: #5

(03-18-2016 10:12 AM)Just_Die Wrote:  Now I just got a message from him: someone recognized me as a "pro-rape activist", I am no longer allowed on the crawl, he forbids me to speaking to any of his staff and clients and he says that he'll get me kicked out from any club he sees me at.

How can this a-hole forbid you to talk to any of his staff and clients if you're not even going to allowed on his crawl? Even when you're out in public, he means? Who exactly does he think he is to bark orders or "forbid" you of anything (other than staying out of his business)?

And getting you kicked out of any club he sees you at?

I know that's standard practice for this industry, but threatening it in a recorded message is pretty ballsy when he's operating on hearsay. This almost sounds like premeditated slander to me, though I have no idea if that's even a fucking term.

The damage is probably already done, and he'll whisper in ears if he sees you regardless, but would still feel a bit better, I'm sure, to throw it back in his face with a letter from a lawyer.

I'm sure he thinks he's doing the right thing, but I can't stand the way these organizer and club owner guys throw their "power" around sometimes.

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Rudyard Kipling

Post: #6

(03-18-2016 10:25 AM)Suits Wrote:  Or come join me in Asia.

I'd take you up on that offer. Going to be in SZ for a few months. We should see about meeting up and staring deeply into each others eyes and talking about life and our future together.

Oh... yea.... "no homo" or something

Post: #7

I don't know what exactly you should do in this situation, but I think you need to strike back.

Kicking his ass is my obvious first idea, but he will probably just call the cops.

Lets hear some ideas here guys.

Post: #8

(03-18-2016 10:22 AM)Just_Die Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 10:17 AM)Suits Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 10:12 AM)Just_Die Wrote:  What happens when you take away nightgame from a man?

He learns daygame.

That's right, street is where no bouncer is the law. I'll even do night street cigarette game. I'll bring a jack and coke in a bottle, save a ton of money. Ain't all bad. But fuck.

I regret nothing and never will though.

My view is that almost no niche seems to be safe anymore. Become a yoga teacher: school kicks you out the second some girl complains. Street and online game seems to be the only real safe thing.

I don't know what kind of bread you're working with, and you've probably got other shit to do, so this is surely farfetched. But...

Lingering on street corners with a bottle of booze and a cig is probably not going to be the right angle of response. You just become a target for more rumours and for white knight bouncers to catch you when they're off shift.

I'm thinking more like troll them all by taking the issue to the media and opening a posh men's club (I'm assuming you're not planning to leave anytime soon).

Agree and amplify.

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Rudyard Kipling

Post: #9

I like your attitude JD.

Any idea how you became affiliated with a "pro-rape" group?

Post: #10

Do you have gofundme or kickstarter? I would support any popularization of your story to wide population.

I dont know tho, if this would be good or bad idea - I mean this could either encourage other bar/club/venue owners of kicking men out and letting only thirsty consumer betas or if this would show world what SJWs and PCs are.

Post: #11

How did he find out you're apart of this group? Did you mention it in conversation?

Post: #12

If you've been tight with the organizer in the past, just reach out to him and say there must be some mistake. Try to talk to the guy about it. It's worth a shot.

Post: #13

How the hell did anyone find out there was a link, unless you were wearing this around? I have one

Post: #14

(03-18-2016 10:40 AM)storm Wrote:  I like your attitude JD.

Any idea how you became affiliated with a "pro-rape" group?

(03-18-2016 10:41 AM)The Beast1 Wrote:  How did he find out you're apart of this group? Did you mention it in conversation?

(03-18-2016 10:47 AM)Gmac Wrote:  How the hell did anyone find out there was a link

Go read his reps.

(And I thought you guys around here were all internet slueths.)

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Rudyard Kipling

Post: #15

(03-18-2016 10:12 AM)Just_Die Wrote:  Gentlemen the sword of Democles has fallen,

I've been going to my city's local pub crawl for a while now. Easy place to meet tourist pussy. Every Friday and Saturday this pubcrawl hits all the biggest clubs in the main nightlife district in my city (I live right next to that). I was very tight with the organizers going in, was their best customer by far.

Last weekend was a total cockfest 50 guys and like 4 chicks. At the first bar stop there was these 2 hot girls from boston who I gamed to some success. I convinced them to join the crawl. Things were going well.

Later in the night this other blond american girl comes out of nowhere and befriends them. She however did not like me and at some point she decides to physically push me away while telling me to "fuck off".

Being a bit tipsy myself and in no mood to take shit I told her "I'm not going anywhere honey" and that was her cue to go to the organizer.

Guy wasted no time, he kicks me out of the crawl on the spot.

Now I just got a message from him: someone recognized me as a "pro-rape activist", I am no longer allowed on the crawl, he forbids me from speaking to any of his staff and clients and he says that he'll get me kicked out from any club he sees me at.

I know he's very tight with the clubs because he brings in a lot of clients every night so he indeed probably has the sway to do that.

Welcome to 2016 gentlemen. Where every white night bouncer need only hear a woman's sigh or hiss to kick you out.

What happens when you take away nightgame from a man?

Do you need to register for the crawl or do you just show up. If the latter show up as usual. In order to get you kicked out of a club he'll have to tell them the reason or come up with some other bullshit story. Then you lawyer up and go after him for defamation. If you don't have a defamation case you can always file a complaint with your provincial human rights commission.

Post: #16

(03-18-2016 10:25 AM)Suits Wrote:  Or come join me in Asia.

Would seriously consider it but man I got it good here job-wise

(03-18-2016 10:39 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  Lingering on street corners with a bottle of booze and a cig is probably not going to be the right angle of response. You just become a target for more rumours and for white knight bouncers to catch you off shift.

Man that logic is exactly the type of thing that scares men from doing day game at the mall cause security might catch them. Picking up chicks always has the risk of making you come off as a creep unless you're playing it super safe all the time (not optimal).

(03-18-2016 10:40 AM)storm Wrote:  I like your attitude JD.

Any idea how you became affiliated with a "pro-rape" group?

The famous 'pro-rape' rallies we had in February of course.

(03-18-2016 10:42 AM)Mike5055 Wrote:  If you've been tight with the organizer in the past, just reach out to him and say there must be some mistake. Try to talk to the guy about it. It's worth a shot.

I was tight but he's the one who banned me and I know him and the other dudes saw me as a game threat and didn't like me fucking the chicks they were after. You can trust me there's an element of jealousy here.

(03-18-2016 10:49 AM)da_zeb Wrote:  If you don't have a defamation case you can always file a complaint with your provincial human rights commission.

Talked to those guys before, they don't give a fuck.

Post: #17

I just thought of a better idea. Start your own pub crawl, steal his staff and put him out of business. Just make sure you do a better job of it and get more and better quality tail on your crawls than his.

Post: #18

(03-18-2016 10:51 AM)Just_Die Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 10:42 AM)Mike5055 Wrote:  If you've been tight with the organizer in the past, just reach out to him and say there must be some mistake. Try to talk to the guy about it. It's worth a shot.

I was tight but he's the one who banned me and I know him and the other dudes saw me as a game threat and didn't like me fucking the chicks they were after. You can trust me there's an element of jealousy here.

That's a pain. How many clubs/bars are around you? He can't be everywhere.

Post: #19

Use a SJW tactic.
Go to the police for this: Now I just got a message from him: someone recognized me as a "pro-rape activist", I am no longer allowed on the crawl, he forbids me to speaking to any of his staff and clients and he says that he'll get me kicked out from any club he sees me at.

Would have been better if this wasn't on the Forum though.

Post: #20

(03-18-2016 10:51 AM)Just_Die Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 10:39 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  Lingering on street corners with a bottle of booze and a cig is probably not going to be the right angle of response. You just become a target for more rumours and for white knight bouncers to catch you off shift.

Man that logic is exactly the type of thing that scares men from doing day game at the mall cause security might catch them. Picking up chicks always has the risk of making you come off as a creep unless you're playing it super safe all the time (not optimal).

Oh, trust me...I have zero qualms running around a mall or anywhere hitting on chicks. However, this is obviously a unique situation (that you asked advice on, I might add), so let's not pretend this is just picking up girls at the mall.

When some club organizer is labeling you a "rape activist" and getting you kicked out of every club in town as a result, hitting the streets by yourself with a bottle of whiskey and a cig to hit on girls is probably not the best idea for your personal safety.

I mean, do what you want. I don't know how big your town is, and if it's a decent-sized city, maybe small chance you'll get spotted. But where I come from, a guy with anything "rape" pinned on his forehead seen prowling the streets at night looking for women is liable to get ratpacked by some bouncers. Unless...he's got quite a crew and knows how to fight.

Not trying to fearmonger here, but that's just generally how things work on the street. You don't need to stop gaming, but I'd do it in an environment with some expectation of safety if this is your new public face. Unless you have backers or really know how to swing em'. In that case, by all means have fun setting the record straight.

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Rudyard Kipling

Post: #21

Move on. Build your own social group that someone else doesn't have control over.

You are investing time in something which this guy can strip away at anytime. Fuck that shit, ratios sound terrible anyway. Make your own night for foreigners, make your own night club crawl, make your own connections with the club owners or make your own house parties/social event. You are piggy backing someone else's event which can be fine but you will never be able to call the shots. If he wants you gone - you're gone. If he wants you to leave - you have to leave. Its a position of no control. And if he only has four girls going on his nights guess who he is going to side with. Pussy is power in nightclub promotion.

In general this is another reason to just avoid clubs unless its part of your industry. Every week you are back to square one with a new crowd. Find a better niche to invest time in and build a network to game off.

Post: #22

Just_Die's new look:

Post: #23

(03-18-2016 10:48 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 10:40 AM)storm Wrote:  I like your attitude JD.

Any idea how you became affiliated with a "pro-rape" group?

(03-18-2016 10:41 AM)The Beast1 Wrote:  How did he find out you're apart of this group? Did you mention it in conversation?

(03-18-2016 10:47 AM)Gmac Wrote:  How the hell did anyone find out there was a link

Read his reps.

(And I thought you guys around here were all internet slueths.)

That's my bad, I knew about him I just didn't connect the dots and I may not have looked at the OP's name.

Post: #24

(03-18-2016 10:57 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  Oh, trust me...I have zero qualms running around a mall or anywhere hitting on chicks. However, this is obviously a unique situation (that you asked advice on, I might add), so let's not pretend this is just picking up girls at the mall.

When some club organizer is labeling you a "rape activist" and getting you kicked out of every club in town as a result, hitting the streets by yourself with a bottle of whiskey and a cig to hit on girls is probably not the best idea for your personal safety.

I mean, do what you want. I don't know how big your town is, and if it's a decent-sized city, maybe small chance you'll get spotted. But where I come from, a guy with anything "rape" pinned on his forehead seen prowling the streets at night looking for women is liable to get ratpacked by some bouncers.

Not trying to fearmonger here, but that's just generally how things work on the street. You don't need to stop gaming, but I'd do it in an environment with some expectation of safety if this is your new public face. Unless you have backers or really know how to swing em', then by all means have fun.

Nah they would never attack me just on hearsay for talking to some girls outside, that wouldn't happen.

Plus it's not a bottle of whiskey, just a bottle of coke. Pre-drinking is a thing.

(03-18-2016 10:58 AM)Atlantic Wrote:  Move on. Build your own social group that someone else doesn't have control over.

You are investing time in something which this guy can strip away at anytime. Fuck that shit, ratios sound terrible anyway. Make your own night for foreigners, make your own night club crawl, make your own connections with the club owners or make your own house parties/social event. You are piggy backing someone else's event which can be fine but you will never be able to call the shots. If he wants you gone - you're gone. If he wants you to leave - you have to leave. Its a position of no control. And if he only has four girls going on his nights guess who he is going to side with. Pussy is power in nightclub promotion.

In general this is another reason to just avoid clubs unless its part of your industry. Every week you are back to square one with a new crowd. Find a better niche to invest time in and build a network to game off.

You're right but that's just my point to an extent. How are you gonna build a circle or nightlife connections when everyone knows and feels you're a pussy slayer. This can happen to my very own business or circle you see.

Post: #25

Oh shit read your reps bud. Just lay low for awhile and wait for the bar staff to turn over. You can go out and game again.

Sorry Just_Die for the BS. Stay strong brother!