Post: #1

I have been in Colombia for 3 months now.....Bogota, Pereira and Santa Marta. In all these cities alcohol improves your chance to bang drastically....less so in Pereira. So have been drinking more than I care to and in this forum we know that is not a good thing for self improvement.
So a list of cities where women don't need the juice to open up:
1. Manaus
2. Davao
3. Jakarta
4. Barranquilla

Cities where it is a must:
1. Warsaw
2. Kiev
3. Bogota
4. London
5. Cali

What are your lists?

Post: #2

Have to say I strongly disagree on Bogota. Unless you're talking about the poorer areas.

I'm not a big drinker, don't really drink much at all when in Bogota.

Students at cafes near universities, girls working/shopping in Centro Andino etc- these are the situations I meet my girls. It hasn't been necessary to go for drinks generally to get the bang. Definitely not anything heavy.

The middle class girls especially didn't drink that often in my experience. A beer once in a while at a cafe with friends, stuff like that.

If you only go out to meet girls at night, well then yes you'll be more likely to go to venues were girls are drinking.

And it depends on how/where/when you schedule subsequent meet ups.

Overall, I disagree that drinking is necessary in most of those places listed, it just depends on your style of game, the type of girl you approach, and where and when you approach, the circumstances, and where you go from there. A place like Cali, however, I'd agree.

I've probably had coffee before a bang almost as often as alcohol, in cities all over the world. But thats down to me and the situations I approach.

Post: #3

Interesting topic. I agree with you on the cities I have been to. Here are some more picks:

No drinking:

1. Rio de Janeiro
2. Floripa
3. Blumenau
4. Barcelona
5. Porto
6. Stockholm
7. Tokyo

Drinking:

1. Moscow
2. Cape Town
3. Bucharest
4. Belgrade
5. Sofia
6. Poznan
7. Wroclaw

These are just a few cities where I have been and observed the local habits. The order is more or less randomly. I think the best country for banging without drinking is Brazil.

Post: #4

(04-16-2016 03:35 PM)GlobalMan Wrote:  Have to say I strongly disagree on Bogota. Unless you're talking about the poorer areas.

I'm not a big drinker, don't really drink much at all when in Bogota.

Students at cafes near universities, girls working/shopping in Centro Andino etc- these are the situations I meet my girls. It hasn't been necessary to go for drinks generally to get the bang. Definitely not anything heavy.

The middle class girls especially didn't drink that often in my experience. A beer once in a while at a cafe with friends, stuff like that.

If you only go out to meet girls at night, well then yes you'll be more likely to go to venues were girls are drinking.

And it depends on how/where/when you schedule subsequent meet ups.

Overall, I disagree that drinking is necessary in most of those places listed, it just depends on your style of game, the type of girl you approach, and where and when you approach, the circumstances, and where you go from there. Cali, however, I'd agree.

I've probably had coffee before a bang almost as often as alcohol, in cities all over the world. But thats down to me and the situations I approach.

I would tend to disagree with you a bit. I only mean in how to maximize your investment. If in Bogota, you can bang 5 girls just with coffee dates in a month...congrats. But with alcohol involved it might be 10....no matter how good your game is, alchohol in certain cities helps to overcome resistance more than others.

Post: #5

My dilemma is going to Manaus for 2 months and living a sober life and banging to my hearts delight or going to Goiania, which like Belo Horizonte, has a big drinking culture.... for a month. am tempted to see how the Brazilian cowgirls from Goias like me even if my liver suffers.

Post: #6

(04-16-2016 03:11 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  I have been in Colombia for 3 months now.....Bogota, Pereira and Santa Marta. In all these cities alcohol improves your chance to bang drastically....less so in Pereira. So have been drinking more than I care to and in this forum we know that is not a good thing for self improvement.
So a list of cities where women don't need the juice to open up:
1. Manaus
2. Davao
3. Jakarta
4. Barranquilla

Cities where it is a must:
1. Warsaw
2. Kiev
3. Bogota
4. London
5. Cali

What are your lists?

For me personally Manila was the city where I needed drinking the less, and at times even had no time for it.
Online game, good logistics, voila.

Apart from that generally you can avoid drinking using daygame (nothing new here). Yes it is not going to be fast, but quality of the girls will be higher and you will encounter more relationship material.

In my pre red pill, zero alcohol years (I did not drink at all until age 22) I found salsa dancing to be good. Some salsa dancing venues don't even have a bar, and if they do you are too busy dancing anyway.

Post: #7

I personally believe you should never need alcohol to bang. It may make things easier in many cases, but to rely on it is a crutch.

I may be an outlier here, but I do juice dates much more often than I do alcohol dates.

Post: #8

Depends of the circumstances. If you are going for cold approaches alcohol can help, it releases your inhibitions and will ease her up. On a date you already know the girl so I don't see the point.

Post: #9

Cities in which alcohol was no factor or a slight factor

Medellin
Bogota


Needed

Paris
Rio
London
Warsaw
Wroclaw

Post: #10

This is pretty simple, the colder the climate the less socially open people are and the more they need alchohol.

Post: #11

Curious why you guys are conflating "drinking alcohol" with "going to bars/clubs".

There maybe cities where it's more optimal to game at night. But you're by no means required to ingest alcohol, lol. I've had many a sober pull from bars/clubs. I get that the relaxation and buzz from alcohol can help you in night venues though. And some places are most viable with a bottle and table, in which case that's an expensive sober night.

Post: #12

(04-18-2016 05:22 PM)RichieP Wrote:  Curious why you guys are conflating "drinking alcohol" with "going to bars/clubs".

There maybe cities where it's more optimal to game at night. But you're by no means required to ingest alcohol, lol. I've had many a sober pull from bars/clubs. I get that the relaxation and buzz from alcohol can help you in night venues though. And some places are most viable with a bottle and table, in which case that's an expensive sober night.

I would agree. I am on the wagon. The past two months I have been going out a lot but I always drink club soda and lime, looks like a drink and they usually do not know.

Took a chick to a steakhouse last saturday night and asked her what wine she would like, ordered her a glass and ordered a club soda for myself......got the bang ;-)

Post: #13

Beijing. Alcohol usually irrelevant.

Post: #14

(04-16-2016 03:46 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

(04-16-2016 03:35 PM)GlobalMan Wrote:  Have to say I strongly disagree on Bogota. Unless you're talking about the poorer areas.

I'm not a big drinker, don't really drink much at all when in Bogota.

Students at cafes near universities, girls working/shopping in Centro Andino etc- these are the situations I meet my girls. It hasn't been necessary to go for drinks generally to get the bang. Definitely not anything heavy.

The middle class girls especially didn't drink that often in my experience. A beer once in a while at a cafe with friends, stuff like that.

If you only go out to meet girls at night, well then yes you'll be more likely to go to venues were girls are drinking.

And it depends on how/where/when you schedule subsequent meet ups.

Overall, I disagree that drinking is necessary in most of those places listed, it just depends on your style of game, the type of girl you approach, and where and when you approach, the circumstances, and where you go from there. Cali, however, I'd agree.

I've probably had coffee before a bang almost as often as alcohol, in cities all over the world. But thats down to me and the situations I approach.

I would tend to disagree with you a bit. I only mean in how to maximize your investment. If in Bogota, you can bang 5 girls just with coffee dates in a month...congrats. But with alcohol involved it might be 10....no matter how good your game is, alchohol in certain cities helps to overcome resistance more than others.

Like the spear of truth cutting through the noise.

I am never disappointed in chochemonger's direct approach in issues.

Post: #15

I tend to visit the girl's parents my first date at their home. I talk like Mr. Rodgers. I sit and have tea. We pray the rosary and then we juice organic vegetables.

Next I take her to the basement and bang her while we pretend we are building dog houses for homeless dogs.

Works everytime.

Post: #16

(04-16-2016 03:46 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  I would tend to disagree with you a bit. I only mean in how to maximize your investment. If in Bogota, you can bang 5 girls just with coffee dates in a month...congrats. But with alcohol involved it might be 10....no matter how good your game is, alchohol in certain cities helps to overcome resistance more than others.

I don't think sensible amounts of alcohol would affect you negatively anywhere. It's quite valid to say that it would help you in terms of closing almost 100% of the time.

But... Just because it's easier to close with alcohol doesn't mean it's better to close with alcohol.

While first night bangs after a few drinks are great, to me, there's something incredibly satisfying about banging a girl on the second or third date at a natural pace, driven by your mutual chemistry that has not been influenced in any way whatsoever by alcohol.

Post: #17

(04-18-2016 06:58 PM)Travesty Wrote:  I tend to visit the girl's parents my first date at their home. I talk like Mr. Rodgers. I sit and have tea. We pray the rosary and then we juice organic vegetables.

Next I take her to the basement and bang her while we pretend we are building dog houses for homeless dogs.

Works everytime.

Sounds like my first date bangs, but you're forgetting the pastries and appetizers in the basement that you pay for.

Post: #18

^ You are forgetting I bring the ingredients and bake them with the mother while we listen to oldies and I show her some ballroom.

So yes I pay.

Team Appetizers.

Post: #19

I love that out of all the possible cities in the world, Barranquilla made the "don't need alcohol" list haha.

Post: #20

Shenzhen, China.

I have only taken one girl out on a drink date and I didn't bang her, ha. Every other bang has involved no alcohol here.

Post: #21

What if you meet a girl at a nightlife venue with drinking involved while getting the digits after building traction....only to get the bang minus alcohol involved first scheduled meet up? What category does that lie under?

Every bang in Brazil has either been
1) Situation described above
2) ONS with alcohol involved
3) Date with alcohol involved

Post: #22

^ That kinda chick probably showed up to the date buzzed and wouldn't tell you.

Liquour bang 100.

Post: #23

(04-18-2016 10:57 PM)Brosemite Wrote:  What if you meet a girl at a nightlife venue with drinking involved while getting the digits after building traction....only to get the bang minus alcohol involved first scheduled meet up? What category does that lie under?

Every bang in Brazil has either been
1) Situation described above
2) ONS with alcohol involved
3) Date with alcohol involved

I think in a lot of cities of Brazil, the less Portuguese you know the more you should try to liquor up your dates. Brazil is the Latin country where most girls don't need alcohol to warm up to me, but that is because of my fluent Portuguese and their natural friendliness.
In Colombia alcohol helps way more. Even though my Spanish is better than my Portuguese, I don't have as good a chemistry as with Brasileiras and I get bored with Colombianas way faster. So going without alcohol for more than a week, in Colombia, would be too much for me.