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RE: Older players, any stories from the 70s?
I qualify by age and one of my three worthless liberal arts degrees is in History so let me try. Warning this may be long so if you're in a TLDR mode skip it.
I graduated from high school in the late 1960's. The rules of courting were beginning to change but basically you had to be going steady, be engaged or pledge your undying love to your girl to get anywhere in those days. I'd estimate that maybe 15% tops of young women were what we called "loose" back then and if you wanted to "score" your best bet was to approach that group. Kind of like the opposite of today's reality where 15-20% of men are monopolizing the majority of women.
Things really began to change in the 1970's. First of all drugs, which were mostly confined to certain sub strata of society were now endemic among young white kids everywhere. It seemed like almost everybody smoked weed at least casually and harder drugs of the upper and downer variety were around too. Feminism became an in thing but it was not yet the toxic variety we have now. Mostly women claiming to want "equality" in all phases of life. It actually was a boon to us guys because now all of a sudden more women were open to ONS and relationships that involved a sex life that was like that of a married couple. The drugs, the feminism and more important the pill had just blown up the social landscape. I lived with two women outside of marriage in the early and middle 70's. The first one drop dead gorgeous and 5 inches taller than me. Yes short guys could be players back then too.
After Nixon resigned in 1974 the American economy went into a deep recession, the worst since the Depression up until then. I come from a rough blue collar environment and it seemed like EVERYBODY I knew was laid off. I took a Greyhound Bus tour of the states and when I came back home there were still no jobs. Still we're young and most are getting unemployment and/or doing side work for cash so there was a little money floating around. I had a good friend who was a born hustler and he would rent rooms in high end hotels and throw parties that would knock your socks off. He'd charge a nominal fee and you'd be surprised how many people you could cram in a hotel suite. The booze, weed, women and music would flow freely. If you had a pulse you had a good time. Chances for hooking up were good. A couple of guys partnered up with women they ended up marrying. Let me emphasize, we partied hard. Like I said a blue collar environment and even our women who had discovered feminism wanted and craved our company. I wish I could bend space and time so you could experience these events. There was always a party and only occasionally did it involve alcohol fueled fisticuffs. We all pretty much knew each other and if an outsider wanted to make an issue it was dealt with quickly and firmly.
By the mid and late 70's many of my friends and cohorts were married or preparing to do so. A surprising number are still married today. However, sometime in the mid to late 1980's I did an inventory of 20 or so married couples that I knew at least casually. Now I didn't have video proof but it appeared to me that 65% of the men and 35% of the women had cheated at some point in the marriage. Word gets around. Many of them were my friends. There was a lot of divorce, I can't give exact percentages, but second marriages seemed to work better than the research I read which claimed second marriages are very problematic. As previously stated a surprising number of couples in my age group have stayed married for the duration, some surviving cheating by one or even both parties.
A number of guys I knew, some very good friends, did extremely well with the ladies. I'm not going to go into chapter and verse because I have no right to out them in any way even though off course I would mention no names or other identifying features. I'm in my mid 60's so a lot of guys and gals I once knew are no longer with us.
In short this is a very brief capsulized observation. It was in the 70's when the real seismic changes took hold. It was a topsy turvy time. The economy was hot and cold, and this is the beginning of the long term economic decline of the USA. In fact it is the beginning of the end of many once good and traditional things. We didn't realize it at the time, we were just young and trying to grab a hold of life and yes we had a great time doing it.
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Vronski
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RE: Older players, any stories from the 70s?
First time I've been in Jakarta was in 1988, and in Brasil (oddly enough, I began with Belem) was in 1990 (and travelled extensively in Indonesia and Brasil -and some other places- for 10/12 years, till I became enamoured with the FSU). At this era, you travelled blind (no internet forums, thus no idea about where to go when on site and what you could expect there) ...it was great, true adventure, not an era for hesitant and timorous pussies. You had to be quite Alpha to go to Manaus or Antinanarivo without any information. Nowadays ...hmmmm ...I won't elaborate.
The first "sex oriented travel site" (worldsexguide- which admittedly was mainly about P4P, but there was also some posters who were "players"), was founded by a guy named Atta in the mid 90's, but declined, and then a guy named Jackson revived it in the late 90's - to become the infamous ISG.
Was just a parenthesis about internet ressources in the 90's - almost none. No RVF, no Tripadvisor, no Fourquare, no Airbnb. You were on your own. But the White God Factor .......it was even too much.
(This post was last modified: 08-12-2016 02:02 PM by Vronski.)
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RE: Older players, any stories from the 70s?
(08-12-2016 01:03 PM)MY DETROIT PLAYAS Wrote: @Scorpio Rising +1
I owe a large part of my ability with women to my uncles (RIP) who were also a product of those times. I would even sneak upstairs long enough to witness a few wild card parties, and choke off dense Newport smoke while my uncle & his "lady friend" did the Bump to an Ohio Players record.
I could listen to stories all day of how those players put it down back then.
Shameful! How can you mention the Ohio Players without including an album cover or two?
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RE: Older players, any stories from the 70s?
Most young guys can't comprehend the 70s. The drinking age was 18, a six pack cost $3, there was no AIDS, and girls were thin with no fake tits. Nobody had tattoos and everybody smoked. There were no computers or video games. TV had 3 channels. People were a million times more social. If you didn't have a car you were a nobody.
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MY DETROIT PLAYAS
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RE: Older players, any stories from the 70s?
I was young but I remember folks throwing rent parties back in the 70's, people around me didn't have much but they seemed a lot happier.
We had each other
Nowadays these anti-social nerds barely make eye contact with their neighbors
So sad
MDP
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RE: Older players, any stories from the 70s?
My last good year was 1979. Gives you some idea how old I am. 
To tell you the truth, it was never a poosy paradise unless you knew your game real good and most college guys back then didn't. There were a few who had different women around every night, more with steady girlfriends, and a whole lotta guys who never got laid at all. Yes, the bar scene was a lot easier to navigate, but you still had to have some skills. No AIDS to worry about, but plenty of shotgun marriages.
Shit was getting real on the home front. Although not as old as Scorpio, I do remember all the marriages breaking up from a high school perspective in the 70's. Plenty of my classmates had to choose between which parental unit they wanted to live with. A lot of kids messed up bad over it. These were the days of TV movies with titles such as "Sarah: Portrait of a Teenage Alcoholic" and "Maybe I'll Come Home in the Spring".
Do I miss those days? Parts of them. I miss the discovery of a new vinyl album by a band I didn't know. I miss the rumors about great movies that suddenly showed up at the local art cinema. All said, it's a wash. The past is ashes, after all.
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Days of Broken Arrows
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RE: Older players, any stories from the 70s?
I was a little kid then, so no stories. But even as a young 'un, I knew a babe when I saw one, and this is probably the standard by which I came to judge all women. Extra points if y'all know who it is. (Hint: She was hotter than "Marcia, Marcia, Marcia!")
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RE: Older players, any stories from the 70s?
(08-13-2016 11:49 PM)RatInTheWoods Wrote: Never mind the 70s
Imagine all the sweet, free pussy that was free lovin in the 60s????
Born too late :-(
I doubt there was more "free pussy" available in the 60s than there is now. Remember that many women were still quite conservative back then, waiting for a provider to lock down before opening the legs.
The free love thing was more about the shifting attitude towards sex than any sort of hedonistic paradise.
(This is all conjecture, I don't have any statistics to back it up, but if anyone finds any, let me know).
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RE: Older players, any stories from the 70s?
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Days of Broken Arrows
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RE: Older players, any stories from the 70s?
(08-14-2016 01:21 PM)corsega Wrote: (08-13-2016 11:49 PM)RatInTheWoods Wrote: Never mind the 70s
Imagine all the sweet, free pussy that was free lovin in the 60s????
Born too late :-(
I doubt there was more "free pussy" available in the 60s than there is now. Remember that many women were still quite conservative back then, waiting for a provider to lock down before opening the legs.
The free love thing was more about the shifting attitude towards sex than any sort of hedonistic paradise.
(This is all conjecture, I don't have any statistics to back it up, but if anyone finds any, let me know).
Good call, though.
I've written articles related to this, and from what people have told me, the wild years started around Woodstock (1969) and ended when AIDS entered the public consciousness (1982-83).
I'm old enough to remember when the media first reported about AIDS. If you all think the media is hysterical about Trump now, you should have seen them about AIDS then. It was going to EXPLODE into the straight community! No no was safe!! It's not just gays!! OMG!!!
Of course, none of that was true. I once compiled images of a bunch of hysterical anti-AIDS magazine covers from the '80s to make this point. I can't find my old links this second, but here are two good ones:
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