Post: #1

http://www.therooster.com/blog/10-brutal...-have-kids

Wife sent me this article. More or less a feminist tries to describe the realities of raising a child as too hard and too expensive.

Including gems like this:
"I'm lesbian, so unless my girlfriend grows a dick and balls, paying for a surrogate or artificial insemination would be a huge medical bill. Dogs are cheaper." - Drea, 27"

Refusing the uncomfortable realities of biology.

Post: #2

(09-10-2016 11:30 PM)PillBoxer Wrote:  http://www.therooster.com/blog/10-brutal...-have-kids

Wife sent me this article. More or less a feminist tries to describe the realities of raising a child as too hard and too expensive.

Including gems like this:
"I'm lesbian, so unless my girlfriend grows a dick and balls, paying for a surrogate or artificial insemination would be a huge medical bill. Dogs are cheaper." - Drea, 27"

Refusing the uncomfortable realities of biology.

Standing between a man and his sin is a bad idea. Let them go they are surely lost.

Post: #3

(09-10-2016 11:30 PM)PillBoxer Wrote:  http://www.therooster.com/blog/10-brutal...-have-kids
Wife sent me this article. More or less a feminist tries to describe the realities of raising a child as too hard and too expensive.

Including gems like this:
"I'm lesbian, so unless my girlfriend grows a dick and balls, paying for a surrogate or artificial insemination would be a huge medical bill. Dogs are cheaper." - Drea, 27"

Refusing the uncomfortable realities of biology.

Quick Drea! There's still time!
Organize a 'night out' with Bruce Jenner...

Post: #4

I'm all for this type of thinking coming from feminists. I strongly support their right to not procreate or even adopt kids.

It's better for them to weed themselves out of the gene pool and take likeminded individuals with them than it is to have them raise another generation of insufferable delusional brats.

I hope they all decide to do this and form their own enclave away from other people.

There was a link posted awhile back about an aging feminist womens only community. It was the most depressing environments i've ever read about full of desperate old biddies backstabbing each other and trying to trick young woman into joining their coven.

It eventually just died out as the extremists amongst them died of old age and the saner ones left to rejoin society because living in a delusional community of dried up clams got "lonely."

Post: #5

There's what, dozens of poor countries that prove being poor increases birth rates? Typical leftist, don't let the facts get in the way of what comes out your mouth.

Post: #6

Here's my theory on the subject.

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In the Western world, in the 1950's, we had high marriage rates and high birth rates - as much as 4 kids per woman. This was before feminism came into play. Nuclear families were everywhere: the woman cooks and takes care of her husband, and in exchange, she had nothing to pay - he provides everything she needs so she can raise the kids in peace. There was basically no recourse for women wanting to divorce their husband. The motto was simple: you have kids with someone, you stay with this person. You couldn't break your family that easily.

Now came first-generation feminism in the 1970's. Right to vote, right to work, etc. and we all thought that it was reasonable. After all, women would get a part-time job in case of emergency, and since they pay taxes, they can vote. So the people gave credibility to feminism, and everyone thought feminism was something great. Those women groups then tasted something called power, which once you get used to it, there's no going back. Seeing that their efforts to get "equal rights" were succeeding, they decided to push it further in order not to let the feminist movement die. They wanted equal control and equal decision power in the household, basically taking away the husband's role.

Women then came up with a pretty absurd thought: since we can work, vote, make our own money, and raise kids by ourselves, why do we need husbands for?. One problem remains though: there's nothing in it for us if we leave. So let's work on that, and create a child support system, alimony system, and anything to ensure that we can leave and have a good life. The 1980's feminists pushed this further, by encouraging women to feel oppressed by their husband, and attempting to gain control of the household. In return, alimony and child support laws were on the woman's side, forcing husbands to give up their roles and allow women to gain power. "I don't want to cook today - do it yourself. If I leave, you have to pay me anyway".

With new child support / alimony laws in place, and the quasi-absence of prenups, men quickly caught up with the harsh reality: If I commit to the wrong woman or impregnate the wrong one, I can lose half of my assets and/or be condemned to make monthly payments for the next 18 years of my life. A simple change of heart from your woman, and you're on the hook for years. Marriage was now synonym with a huge flashing sign saying DANGER. Marriage rates dropped from 80% to as low as 30% in a decade, and the same decline has been observed with birth rates. Having a child and getting married, which were the norm back then, were now associated with danger.

The social justice stigma pushed people to "always respect women, no matter what". If you have a pussy, you cannot be held responsible for your actions. People were calling for "equal rights", even if it meant the demise of the Western society. People who wanted to have children while minimizing the risks did so outside marriage. There are 2 risks: losing 50% of your assets, and being on the hook for child support. By having a bastard, you can at least eliminate one of the 2 risks. Women more and more frequently left the man, while collecting child support. Less and less birthrates. And so on. "Respect women", they said. This means more women on the workplace, and they can now compete with men for jobs that require skilled workers. The will of God was to get married and leave a legacy. With less and less people following this path, the faith in God slowly faded away from the population, and we started to see empty churches, atheists, and so on.

With birth rates now being lower than the population renewal threshold of around 2.1 children per woman, we need people to replace those missing "economical units", also known as "people". Businesses, governments, etc. still need money. We need a solution, quick. There are two ways to solve this:
1) Put women back in the home where they belong, choke the feminist movement, and do like we did for hundreds of years, or;
2) Bring more people from outside into the country. People who are sure to breed and make more economical units. We all know who they are.

In order to preserve "equal rights", we chose solution #2. One problem remains: will the population accept to give up their lands for this? We need to employ population control measures. Divide to conquer. If the population is too busy fighting against each other, we can push whatever agenda we can, and it won't meet resistance. I know: LGBT rights. Let's start a movement to legalize gay marriage. With an equal number of proponents and opponents, the masses are sure to be busy for a while. The governments helped the media to push this ideology in the minds of people, while we opened the door for migrant economical units. It all went smooth, because the masses were too busy arguing over transgender bathrooms, wage gap, spectator sports, and trying to win arguments on social media.

The laws of supply and demand apply for religion too: the faith in God slowing fading away, and the number of migrants coming in the country rising, we need more laws for those people to feel welcome: no pork in schools, saying "holidays" instead of "Christmas", etc. all that while the masses continue to support the feminist movement, all that for "equal rights".

With the nuclear family broken, feminists refuse to back down. Instead of concentrating on restoring the nuclear family model, we concentrate on more rape laws, better child support laws for women who decide to break their family, and letting more people in. In short: Feminism is the root of our society's problems, especially the declining birth rates.

What do people now say? "I'd love to help rebuild my society, but I don't have time. Yeah but it's because.....".
You know the rest.
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That's why I live in Thailand. You can't change the world by yourself, but you can choose which one you want to live in.

Post: #7

Great post Rawmeo. I have lived through all of this history and can attest to the very high accuracy of your contentions.

Post: #8

good post, but I assure you the majority of non-christian migrants are pretty tolerant towards Christmas and many western traditions, with the exception of recent hordes of hardline muslims entering the west. The atheist left dislikes religion, and absolutely hates Christianity. They use tolerance as an excuse to wage war to push all things Christian out of the public sphere. In my whole life I have never met a single non-Christian religious person who wanted to ban the word Christmas or any of this other PC nonsense, but I've met a lot of atheists who wanted that.

Post: #9

I always cringe when a woman (like the author Isabelle Kohn) prepares us for some “real talk.” You just know it’s going to be riddled with pussy passes and half-truths. For example, she says she's going to give us "brutally real" reasons why millennials are not having children. But you only need to get to the first reason before the hamstering starts…

1. We're poor as hell.

Yes, that’s true. Now whose fault is that? Put away that credit card when you go to the mall and start buying useless trinkets on Amazon. Also, stop majoring in Social Work and Women’s Studies. Those majors don’t pay.

Post: #10

(09-11-2016 01:27 AM)Rawmeo Wrote:  Here's my theory on the subject.
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No need to qualify it, friend.

It's as much as a fact as saying the Sun is hot and Neptune's not.

Post: #11

Quote:"I have to say my commitment to the environment is greater than my commitment to humanity. Without an environment, there can be no humanity. So, I'm keeping my pussy shut." - Heather, 24 -

Can't wait to see this one at 42

Post: #12

(09-11-2016 01:27 AM)Rawmeo Wrote:  Here's my theory on the subject.

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Good post.

I've been thinking about how society/civilisation is meant to work recently, which is not really happening at the moment, because Western Governments are shipping immigrants in to their nations, and ignoring the change to the social fabric which is negative.

Society works when the current generation puts in the work for the next one. Family is a big part of that. A family works when the parents put in the work to prepare and provide for their children(the next generation).

In the UK shills were saying how Brexit would lead to economic disaster. I didn't care, I was prepared to go through the bad times to make the good times happen later, even if I wouldn't reap the full benefits. In the USA shills say Trump will be a disaster or whatever. He won't, good Americans are prepared to put the work in for the next generation. That's how it works.

Post: #13

(09-13-2016 01:12 AM)Lizard King Wrote:  

(09-11-2016 01:27 AM)Rawmeo Wrote:  Here's my theory on the subject.

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Good post.

I've been thinking about how society/civilisation is meant to work recently, which is not really happening at the moment, because Western Governments are shipping immigrants in to their nations, and ignoring the change to the social fabric which is negative.

Society works when the current generation puts in the work for the next one. Family is a big part of that. A family works when the parents put in the work to prepare and provide for their children(the next generation).

In the UK shills were saying how Brexit would lead to economic disaster. I didn't care, I was prepared to go through the bad times to make the good times happen later, even if I wouldn't reap the full benefits. In the USA shills say Trump will be a disaster or whatever. He won't, good Americans are prepared to put the work in for the next generation. That's how it works.

I don't think brexit will happen because it wasn't the right answer. See Ireland for example of what happens when the prols give the wrong answer in a plebiscite.

In my opinion we are still very far from peak feminism in the western world. If you see what they are teaching kids in school and on TV, it's truly frightening.

Even if brexit does happen I think it's a big illusion that the UK will somehow change to a less socialist state with less big goverment, less authoritarianism, more male friendly etc. The UK goverment and establishment are absolutely one of the worst in the world and the population is largely supported by government spending largesse. That is most people, especially women, work in busy-work public sector employment.

Post: #14

Note the ages of the girls quoted in that article. When the baby-rabies kicks in and that ol' biological clock ticks louder than a meowing cat, the special snowflakes will change the song to "Where are all the good men to impregnate me?"

Post: #15

It bears repeating that by enabling their egos feminism has created a legion of unmarriiageable women.

Over and over again we've seen article written by chubby to fat women (all very talkative and self absorbed) that say the same thing "I have an office job, why can't I find a hot, successful guy?"

Years of experience have taught me the same thing. Line up my single guy friends v my married guy friends and there is not really any difference in terms of looks, financial success, social skills/status. But the married women v unmarried? I'd say 90% are fat, borderline obese. 8% are 6s that think they are 9s, and 2% are attractive, pleasant women who have bad luck but also make bad dating choices. All they have in common is that they have an office job, it's just that we don't give a shit. Which of course is our right as men.

Post: #16

(09-13-2016 04:20 AM)hv123 Wrote:  

(09-13-2016 01:12 AM)Lizard King Wrote:  

(09-11-2016 01:27 AM)Rawmeo Wrote:  Here's my theory on the subject.

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Good post.

I've been thinking about how society/civilisation is meant to work recently, which is not really happening at the moment, because Western Governments are shipping immigrants in to their nations, and ignoring the change to the social fabric which is negative.

Society works when the current generation puts in the work for the next one. Family is a big part of that. A family works when the parents put in the work to prepare and provide for their children(the next generation).

In the UK shills were saying how Brexit would lead to economic disaster. I didn't care, I was prepared to go through the bad times to make the good times happen later, even if I wouldn't reap the full benefits. In the USA shills say Trump will be a disaster or whatever. He won't, good Americans are prepared to put the work in for the next generation. That's how it works.

I don't think brexit will happen because it wasn't the right answer. See Ireland for example of what happens when the prols give the wrong answer in a plebiscite.

In my opinion we are still very far from peak feminism in the western world. If you see what they are teaching kids in school and on TV, it's truly frightening.

Even if brexit does happen I think it's a big illusion that the UK will somehow change to a less socialist state with less big goverment, less authoritarianism, more male friendly etc. The UK goverment and establishment are absolutely one of the worst in the world and the population is largely supported by government spending largesse. That is most people, especially women, work in busy-work public sector employment.

You missed the point of my post. Perhaps I didn't articulate well.

The point I was making, is that today, we are told some things should not happen because they will have a negative impact, and simply for that reason we should not ever let them happen. Brexit was an example of that.

What I was trying to say, was that sometimes we have to go through some hardship or suffering, to achieve our objective. So with my Brexit analogy, Britain is better off if it is able to self-determinate, but it will have to go through some difficulties on the way.

The parents of a family will go through difficulties and make sacrifices, but the end result is worth it. A society will sometimes have to go through difficulties to achieve things. Does that explain it better.

Post: #17

What bugged me the most was that the writer made it seem as if the act of childbirth/breastfeeding was some sort of sick alien autopsy situation. I wonder what kind of parents she had?

We're already facing a population crisis. With U.S. population in particular falling below the replacement rate, who will pay for these people in retirement? Certainly not their children. But mine will. The ones that my wife and my family took the time out to raise. It's just another example of other people making decisions and expecting society to always bail them out so they can live the deluded fantasy that feminism is a panacea. All it has done is make our society more concerned about gender identity, homosexuality, and other "issues" that do not enrich society. I don't mind what you do in your bedroom, but don't flip the script so that what everyone else is doing is bad. Own up to your failure and your life choices.

Post: #18

The consumerism of the West has got everyone thinking having children is very expensive and they are never financially secure enough to have them. It's also got people working too much and spending all their off time and money on bullshit like stuff, and vacations, so they are in this perpetual of cycle of "never settle down" until they become too old to do anything worthwhile and they have no children or grand children to raise and they just quietly die as dead-ends to their family tree.

Childless, husbandless women in their 30's are some of the most depressing and lonely people in the world.

Post: #19

The positive aspect is that all the whiny adult children that refuse to grow up,accept reality and move on will remove themselves of the gene pool thus.providing more breathing room for those that will inherit the earth (most likely not our kin but you never know!).

Post: #20

Pets are nearly always used by such women to replace the urge for a having a baby.

You can't take this stuff out of their DNA. So they use pets as an escape.

Post: #21

Quote:"I'm just not one of those people that thinks pregnancy is a beautiful. I see pregnant women and my eye bulges and I feel grossed out by the whole thing. There's like, a person inside them. The only thing I want inside me is a vibrator or 26 burritos." - Zara, 26

OMG!!1! LITERALLY a person inside of them.

Quote:"I'm a complete mess. I drink and I fuck and I get absorbed in my work. I have all these qualities I dislike about myself that I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy, so I'm sure as shit not going to wish it on my own child. Meanwhile, I really do love my cat."- Colton, 25

Quote:"One word: Trump. If that dude wins, I have a really hard time not picturing America as a smoldering nuclear wasteland. That's no place to raise a child." - Manuel, 28

This site can't be real. These are all Onion style quotes.

Post: #22

Christ. These comments a couple decades ago would have been coming from the 13-18 year olds and not people who are close to 30.

Quote:"I'm just not one of those people that thinks pregnancy is a beautiful. I see pregnant women and my eye bulges and I feel grossed out by the whole thing. There's like, a person inside them. The only thing I want inside me is a vibrator or 26 burritos." - Zara, 26

What she really meant was that aside from the vibrator it's 26 cocks not burritos.

Quote:"I'm a complete mess. I drink and I fuck and I get absorbed in my work. I have all these qualities I dislike about myself that I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy, so I'm sure as shit not going to wish it on my own child. Meanwhile, I really do love my cat."- Colton, 25

"I'm a living STD incubator and can't actually have kids because my uterus is so busted and full of jizm on a daily basis that everything just short circuits."

Quote:"One word: Trump. If that dude wins, I have a really hard time not picturing America as a smoldering nuclear wasteland. That's no place to raise a child." - Manuel, 28

build. the. mother. fucking. wall.

Post: #23

(09-10-2016 11:52 PM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  I'm all for this type of thinking coming from feminists. I strongly support their right to not procreate or even adopt kids.

It's better for them to weed themselves out of the gene pool and take likeminded individuals with them than it is to have them raise another generation of insufferable delusional brats.

I hope they all decide to do this and form their own enclave away from other people.

There was a link posted awhile back about an aging feminist womens only community. It was the most depressing environments i've ever read about full of desperate old biddies backstabbing each other and trying to trick young woman into joining their coven.

It eventually just died out as the extremists amongst them died of old age and the saner ones left to rejoin society because living in a delusional community of dried up clams got "lonely."

I agree, but remember that these Leftists have no shame stealing other people's children through their institutional power and cultural brainwashing. A feminist teacher won't reproduce but will efficiently contribute to turn innocent little girls into delusional, spoiled brats. Your children won't be "yours" anymore, they will take a direction you do not want them to take. If this happens, hope that feminists' children can become red-pilled as to give them a taste of their own medicine.