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Lefty "Logic": Peter Thiel isn't Gay Because He Supports Trump
This article shows an extraordinary glimpse into the mind of left-wingers. First, they want to change the meaning of a word. Then they simply remind us that politics is all about identity and that you must conform to the orthodoxy of their dogmas. You are either with us or against us.

Just as someone like Colin Powell isn't "black enough," the writer of this article has question if Peter Thiel really is gay because he is supporting Trump.

I like Thiel quite a bit. He talks a great deal about the decline of Western civlization and the decline of technological innovation that made it prosperous. He actually gives his money to worthwhile causes like the Methusaleh Foundation.

It's no surprise at all that the author is a college professor. He's at Connecticut College. An article like this could get him a job at Yale.

The comments have generally been very negative toward the author. Here it is: "Peter Thiel Shows Us There's a Difference Between Gay Sex and Gay."

http://www.advocate.com/commentary/2016/...ex-and-gay
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RE: Lefty "Logic": Peter Thiel isn't Gay Because He Supports Trump
I'm surprised that a college professor can't recognize the "No True Scotsman" fallacy. I haven't come across a more blatant example in the last little while.
10-22-2016 12:54 PM
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*cough* Milo *cough*

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In a way, he's right. No matter their gender or sexual orientation, Hillary supporters really are extremely gay.




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I don't think this is a crucial distinction, and I think it's disrespectful to Thiel to deny his identity as a gay man due to his unique political views. Let the man speak and donate just like everyone else.
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(10-22-2016 03:18 PM)polymath Wrote:  I don't think this is a crucial distinction, and I think it's disrespectful to Thiel to deny his identity as a gay man due to his unique political views. Let the man speak and donate just like everyone else.

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We masculine men we don’t need the support of any gay at all.

By the way, this article should be read by everyone on this forum.

Homosexuality, transexuality, gender are VERY NEW concepts. Every time we use them, we are approving these new political identities. If we keep doing that, we’ll never win this war.
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(10-23-2016 03:22 AM)spanish_expat Wrote:  Homosexuality, transexuality, gender are VERY NEW concepts. Every time we use them, we are approving these new political identities. If we keep doing that, we’ll never win this war.

Aristophanes called long distance from Ancient Athens, he said hey and he wants you to check out his VERY NEW play.

http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysistrata

(10-23-2016 03:22 AM)spanish_expat Wrote:  We masculine men we don’t need the support of any gay at all.

To quote Kim Kardashian's number two admirer (after myself), "you can still love your man and be manly, dog."
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Gayness is defined by your political views.....

Something acceptable now becomes political.
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This is just an updated logical fallacy: No True Gayman.

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RE: Lefty "Logic": Peter Thiel isn't Gay Because He Supports Trump
The controversy surrounding Thiel's support for Trump was the subject of an article today in the NYT.

Quote:Two weeks ago, Mr. Thiel revealed that he was donating $1.25 million to support the election of Donald J. Trump. As these things go, it was a small gift. Dustin Moskovitz, a founder of Facebook, is giving tens of millions to support Hillary Clinton. But the news made Mr. Thiel a pariah in much of the tech community.

Compare the NYT Headlines:
Peter Thiel Defends His Most Contrarian Move Yet: Supporting Trump
Dustin Moskovitz, Facebook Co-Founder, Pledges $20 Million to Aid Democrats.

The first piece frames this as Thiel defending his support for Trump against those who are trying to take him (Thiel) down. The piece about the Facebook Clinton donor reads like a press release.

Thiel will be speaking at the National Press Club on Monday:

Quote:On Monday, Mr. Thiel plans to defend his position in a speech and then a question-and-answer session with reporters at the National Press Club in Washington. For the entrepreneur, who secretly funded the lawsuit that brought down the gossip website Gawker, it is a particularly surprising venue.
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(10-23-2016 11:54 AM)debeguiled Wrote:  This is just an updated logical fallacy: No True Gayman.

LOL!

For those who do not get it, check out the Wikipedia entry on the "No true Scotsman" fallacy, coined by my one-time mentor, Anthony Flew.

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