Post: #1

It has come to my knowledge that Dr. Janice Fiamengo is a defendant in a "Human Rights" complaint initiated by a student of hers at the University of Ottawa.

Dr. Janice Fiamengo is subject to individual litigation, even though her employer, University of Ottawa is considered the organization responsible for the alleged "discrimination".




Is it convenient that when anti-PC culture is becoming popular at UofT under Professor Jordan Peterson, that other anti-feminist Professors are being purged out by SJW around Ontario?

I wanted to make a new thread because Dr. Janice Fiamengo's litigation is a sepearate incident because Professor Jordan Peterson is more anti-PC than a Men's Rights activist like Dr. Janice Fiamengo.

Post: #2

The story regarding Dr. Janice Fiamengo is that a female University of Ottawa student with a registered "disability" wanted to write a test under student accommodations, but Dr. Janice Fiamengo provided her options for test dates under the course regulations, but the student didn't get to write the test because she refused to attempt to work a suitable date to write the test.

The student even got the final test grade removed from her final grade, but she still isn't satisfied. She went to the Social Justice Tribunals to claim that Dr. Janice Fiamengo discriminated against her.

During the 1st Mediation, the female student wanted Dr. Janice Fiamengo to be fully responsible for the "discrimination" instead of placing liability on the University of Ottawa. This is weird because universities tend to be able to payout any settlement without question, but that female student appears to want to "punish" Dr. Janice Fiamengo by putting the legal burden on her, possibly to get Dr. Janice Fiamengo bankrupt over legal fees.

This alone spells a feminist agenda, because many students who sue faculty on campus would rather prefer a settlement with the college, than to sue a faculty member who is paying a mortgage & taking payday loans to retain a lawyer. It is known that Dr. Janice Fiamengo is a controversial faculty on campus because of her anti-feminist views & affiliation with A Voice for Manginas.

Dr. Janice Fiamengo doesn't wish to discuss more details of her case because she fears that she will be subject to more legal bullying (eg- "criminal defamation" if she mentions her accuser by name), so the court details above are all that her YouTube channel Studio brule is willing to provide for now.

Post: #3

(10-27-2016 07:17 PM)RBerkley Wrote:  The student even got the final test grade removed from her final grade, but she still isn't satisfied. She went to the Social Justice Tribunals to claim that Dr. Janice Fiamengo discriminated against her.

You. Fucking. What?

Post: #4

(10-27-2016 07:24 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  

(10-27-2016 07:17 PM)RBerkley Wrote:  The student even got the final test grade removed from her final grade, but she still isn't satisfied. She went to the Social Justice Tribunals to claim that Dr. Janice Fiamengo discriminated against her.

You. Fucking. What?

Yep. Social Justice Tribunals are an actual thing in Canada:

http://www.sjto.gov.on.ca/en/

Post: #5

Why cant the student be named?
If the law doesnt allow Dr. Janice Fiamengo to name the student then why cant someone else just simply publicize it.
If the name, according to the law, cannot be published in the newspapers , then why cant someone just put it on the internet? The police will not spend tons of its resources just to track people who had put someone's name online.

Post: #6

(10-28-2016 07:13 AM)bk19xsa Wrote:  Why cant the student be named?
If the law doesnt allow Dr. Janice Fiamengo to name the student then why cant someone else just simply publicize it.
If the name, according to the law, cannot be published in the newspapers , then why cant someone just put it on the internet? The police will not spend tons of its resources just to track people who had put someone's name online.

The court filing should be public record. It may even be available over the Internet.

Post: #7

(10-28-2016 07:13 AM)bk19xsa Wrote:  Why cant the student be named?
If the law doesnt allow Dr. Janice Fiamengo to name the student then why cant someone else just simply publicize it.
If the name, according to the law, cannot be published in the newspapers , then why cant someone just put it on the internet? The police will not spend tons of its resources just to track people who had put someone's name online.

Toronto-occupied-Ontario is a feminist police state. If the federal police in Canada isn't going to harass private citizens online, then there is the Toronto Police to do the job to protect a Canadian woman's "reputation".

Roosh critic Feminism LOL was harassed by Toronto Police because she named someone who was under a publication in the Jian Ghomeshi regret sex case. The Toronto Police even threatened to arrest her on a false criminal charge. Toronto Police could abuse their power on random people online:




Not only that, the Toronto Police went online on YouTube to send a threat to arrest a black, female YouTuber for disobeying a court order, and she doesn't even live in Toronto because she mirrored a video from Feminism LOL.

Toronto Police & their imperialist shit harassing people online for Toronto womyns.

I remember in the United States, a female American Judge tried to enforce a Gag order on Reason.com & the outrage from Americans regarding the Gag order from a government official would be the image of angry Americans about to create another 1776 Revolution.

Point is, Canada does not protect free speech as much as other countries.

In fact, it is more autocratic than modern Banana Republics because in corrupt regimes where police serve the elite, the police don't usually harass private citizens like Feminism LOL to protect Toronto women using the law as a justification.

I would not be surprised if someone in Russia even posted the student's name online, and Vladimir Putin gets pissed off that the Toronto Police are calling his office to threaten him over a "publication ban court order".

Toronto Police are like the mafia for Toronto women, but I heard once the Toronto Police tried to fuck with a Russian IT company because some Toronto woman complained how the Russian web server is responsible for blogs posting her name which she viewed as "defamation".

Point is, Dr. Janice Fiamengo knows that the police in Canada will harass not only her, but anyone, if the student complains that her name is online without her "consent".

In the United States, a school board in Canada [Toronto District School Board] attempted to file numerous Gag orders on several American IT companies because of what someone else posted on their servers.




In a similar situation of Canadian censorship & shady pro-feminist police:

York Regional Police went to Toronto to warn a Ryerson student about posting videos online.




What did the Ryerson University student do? Did he do child pornography & posted it online? Did he use the internet to molest millions of babies?

Nope! He filmed an incident on Ryerson University campus concerning how a female doctor on campus informed the Toronto Police to arrest him, but because he uploaded the video, he is subject to police harassment & trumped-up charges, probably because the female doctor doesn't want anyone to know the incident




The incident at the Ryerson University campus medical centre:




Dr. Janice Fiamengo knows that mentioning any of her accuser/s by name will get her into trouble.

Post: #8

I'm not sure if Toronto Police are still harassing online entities beyond Toronto jurisdiction over their "publication ban court order", so I am not linking the Mirrored video from Feminism LOL.

The comment from Toronto Police Services directed online via YouTube comment on a black woman's channel:

Quote:It has come to our attention that you have posted a podcast by Diana DAVISON on YouTube on April 29, 2016 that breaches a Court Order, namely the Publication Ban ordered by her Honour Justice R. RUTHERFORD of the Ontario Court of Justice on November 26, 2014 and publically reiterated by His Honour Justice W. HORKINS of the Ontario Court of Justice on February 1, 2016. The breach of this court order is that you have identified one of the complainants in the case whose identity is protected by the publication ban.

I am directing you to remove this YouTube podcast immediately and do not continue the breach of this Court Order. A charge of disobey court order could be laid against you. A criminal investigation into this matter is ongoing by Toronto Police Service Sex Crimes.

Nurdy Dee
Nurdy Dee5 months ago
+Toronto Police Service May i have the name and identifying information of the officer serving this directive as well as the contact information for his/her supervising officer. I will be glad to make the INTERNATIONAL phone call to explain precisely why I'm directing you to kindly fuck off. Kthanxbai.

It looks like in Toronto, naming an accuser of Jian Ghomeshi is a "sex crime". No wonder many people claim that Toronto is a bad place.

Post: #9

(10-28-2016 10:37 AM)RBerkley Wrote:  In a similar situation of Canadian censorship & shady pro-feminist police:

York Regional Police went to Toronto to warn a Ryerson student about posting videos online.




What did the Ryerson University student do? Did he do child pornography & posted it online? Did he use the internet to molest millions of babies?

Nope! He filmed an incident on Ryerson University campus concerning how a female doctor on campus informed the Toronto Police to arrest him, but because he uploaded the video, he is subject to police harassment & trumped-up charges, probably because the female doctor doesn't want anyone to know the incident




The incident at the Ryerson University campus medical centre:

Based on the video in the medical center, I absolutely cannot blame the doctor for invoking the Mental Health Act. In fact, it's entirely possible that she may have been concerned that he was a harm to himself.

We only see a small portion of their interaction here, so there's certain room for that possibility as well as others.

While I'm not sure I can agree with it being possible to have someone arrested for posting a video of such an incident, I really can't blame the doctor for using every avenue available to avoid being targeted and identified publicly for doing her job.

I used to work at a US university in the campus safety team. The staff of this team were mainly male and although some of them had a significant history of blue pill white-knighting, they certainly weren't anti-male. However, if any of these male professionals had someone exhibiting the manic symptoms that this man was exhibited, they would have definitely gone to whatever lengths were necessary to ensure that the person was safe.

Not every single situation is a conspiracy against white men.

Mental health cases are tricky, but it's generally preferable to ere on the side of caution. Nobody wants to be the doctor or law enforcement professional that released a subject who then went home and killed himself.

It's messy, sure, but it isn't necessarily anti-male hatred.

If those other videos on the same channel, (such as the one I've posted below) are products of the man who was featured, I can disagree with defamation charges being filed, although unless there is more to the story, "uttering threats is obvious a bit of a stretch." If he is indeed a disturbed individual, it's not beyond the realm of possibility that he perhaps did that too...off camera, of course.





Much of what you've written about the actions of various Canadian law enforcement entities may be true, but I don't think this particular situation is the smoking gun you are looking for.

What I see here makes me wonder what you may have conveniently ignored and left out of your other commentary.

Post: #10

Is Dr. Janice Fiamengo the blond in the video about the pink pussyhole?

Is the man arrested the maker of that video?

If the answer is yes to either of these questions:

1) I would like to have sex with Dr. Janice Fiamengo

2) That guy is off his rocker and needs a 72 hour psyche hold. If nothing else, just for setting the video to those jazzy tunes. If I was Dr. Janice Fiamengo I would call the cops, or Mountees, because that guy is a killer.

In some of the other things, though, it appears Canada has just gone full pussy. I hope you guys come around.

Bob Probert must be rolling in his grave. Here's Bob in action, a proud Canada dude:




Aloha!

Post: #11

Suits, the female doc at Ryerson University isn't "doing her job" by sending York Regional Police to march into that white man's home in Toronto without providing a property warrant to the homeowner in the video.

Okay, the female doctor informed Toronto Police under the Mental Health Act, but why did she go back into her office when there appeared to be security guard & several cops outside of the office door waiting for the man? The Toronto Police would have already done their process without her antagonizing the man.

I believe that every patient should have a right to document their interactions with their doctors if they have a reasonable cause. For all we know, the female Ryerson doctor would have cried a false "wape" allegation if the man wasn't filming in order to protect her "job".

If the female doctor doesn't find it comfortable to deal with patients who film & assert their rights, then she should find another job. Point is, Ryerson University didn't appear to have been under lockdown judging that how several staff were seen walking about in the office. If the white man was indeed a threat, that campus would have been under lockdown, rather than that Asian fella looking at the female doctor in annoyance because he had to leave the Medical Centre early. Thus, the man made no dangerous threat, because Ryerson university would have posted a bulletin on their website about a security issue & the staff at the clinic would be evacuated.

What I'm hearing from the video is that the man (Steve) went to this "family doctor" to request a referral to go see a Psychiatrist. He probably told her something which made her over-react, and Steve rightfully behaved upset because instead of the female doctor permitting the campus security and Toronto Police to de-escalate the situation, she goes back inside the office to agitate him more, that he almost made a "threat" while asserting his rights that if she ever directed the police to taze or harm him, he will fight back.

The point is that if this doctor is attending to a baby who is crying, will she call the cops on the baby?

What makes this story real strange is that even if Steve was labelled a mentally ill person (in "liberal" Toronto) on November 18, 2015, but he was back at home before November 21, 2015.

Labelling someone "mentally ill" to get them committed to a Psychiatric hospital is serious business. This is why doctors tend to check their options rather than blindly signing Form Ones in Ontario. The doctor signed the form because she feared the man would injure someone, yet she goes back into the office to agitate him more.

Plus, the court case for Steve was dragging along for several months for a mere misdemeanor such as "uttering threats", and Steve's brother filmed O.P.P. bullying him a few months ago to invade his property at Kawartha Lakes, Ontario.





I don't know who Steve is, but the way that this story is playing out does appear to be the police abusing their powers for that female doctor.

Point is, if it was a male doctor rather than the Toronto snowflake doctor, the cops wouldn't even give a crap, or go beyond their municipal jurisdictional powers to invade private property to "arrest" mentally ill people for crimes as if they were sane.

Some real dystopian stuff from those videos. Only Canadians would blindly obey authority. In the United States, the doctor wouldn't get sued for the Form One (though Steve was released in less than 48 hours as a sane person), but the police and the doctor would be required to answer for civil claims in court, and win.

Throwing random people into a Psychiatric loonie house is not as natural as shitting every morning.

What was disturbing is that the doctor wants to erase the video from the internet using non-realistic claims of libel. Who gives a flock if the doctor wants to protect her job? She shouldn't be antagonizing her patients to incriminate them while the police is there waiting to do their job under the Ontario Soviet Mental Health Act.

Post: #12

Suits, this video from Steve's channel could explain his story about anti-police corruption activism. Liberal twats enter private property, the politician doesn't like being filmed. The area looks like the High Park area of Toronto. What York Regional Police is doing all the way down there in Toronto is another mystery.





The point is that women in Canada will always have the police state at their side, & Dr. Janice Fiamengo knows that she gotta be careful which was why she didn't name her accusers as yet.

I would not even be surprised if the authorities in Ontario claim that Dr. Janice Fiamengo is labelled "mentally ill" & forced into a Psychiatric hospital.

Real police state nonsense in Canada the land of misandry.

Post: #13

@ Kona:

Dr. Janice Fiamengo is a female Professor at University of Ottawa in her fifties.



The doctor who was at Ryerson University is some twat who just got her Family Doctor License last year, but she in the video playing the role of a Psychiatrist. I'm not sure if it's permissible in the Canadian medical profession, but if a twat is able in her first four months of being a licensed doctor, to sign mental health forms to commit patients to a Psychiatric Hospital who she could subjectively diagnose as mentally unstable, then more power to her.

Canada is indeed strange. In the United States, doctors get sued if they sign form sending their patients to mental hospitals & the hospital finds out that there is no need for hospitalization.

They got doctors who get sued in the millions in the United States because some doctor, even a Psychiatrist, gets sued for blindly sending people to psychiatric hospitals when unwarranted.

Different country, different health care system maybe. I know that in the United States, a family doctor isn't going to randomly sign off forms to institutionalize a patient for a mental health diagnosis & then the hospital discharges that patient in less than 48 hours as mentally sane, without being sued by the patient.

Sending a patient to be institutionalized to a psychiatric hospital is serious stuff. In the video, the Ryerson University student didn't even behave psychotic because he just ranting about how he hates police and corruption.

If in Canada men who voice displeasure against the police & government corruption are whisked away to psychiatric hospitals, and then released, and then arrested for crimes as if they were not mental, then that sounds like some real Soviet Union/KGB shit.

Post: #14

Suits,

This external thread contains a more clearer story about that Ryerson University clinic fiasco. This could be the latest accurate side of the story. Disregard the MGTOW thread, at least they aren't afraid to look into the story.

https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/caref...u-talk-to/

To sum it up:

White male goes to the on-campus doctor to complain about nightmares about police.

The doctor over-reacts & calls the police on him.

Student gets upset and fears for his life that he films the office.

Rather than permitting the campus security to remedy the situation with Toronto Police, the doc went back inside the office which made him more antagonized, increasing his risk of becoming more aggressive to police.

The doctor eventually leaves her office to send in Toronto police officers to handcuff Steve.

Toronto Police apprehended him peacefully & escorted him to a psych hospital.

Steve gets quickly released, most likely not found to be in mental crisis.

A week after the incident, out of town cops went into Toronto to arrest Steve relating to the Ryerson University incident which was stated on the video.

York Regional Police carries Steve to face trial in Newmarket, Ontario. Steve is in & out of jail because of that Ryerson University incident for seeking mental health help.

To sum it up, white male student goes to seek help with the school doc for a referral, and instead of getting help, he is labelled a public safety risk trough mental illness because of his activism, ends up victimized by the very police he suffered nightmares & complained about.

I could only imagine if Steve was a black male. He would most likely have been tased or murdered by police already, instead of the unfair treatment he is getting with over-policing & police harassment, because he spoke to a doctor on Ryerson campus about nightmares which incriminated him.

I dunno what to say. Steve is probably in jail for a misdemeanor offense. No one with a mental illness deserves to be wrongly forced into the criminal justice system for seeking help.

It's suspicious that there is a legal agent sending court orders to that YouTube channel to remove the videos concerning the Ryerson clinic over unfounded claims of "libel". It sounds more like libel chill or as American lawyers would phrase "Strategic Lawsuits against Public Participation" SLAPP lawsuits.

Now one can figure out why Dr. Janice Fiamengo is hesitant to publicly name her accuser in the Ontario Human Rights Tribunal, even though naming an accuser in a court trial isn't illegal in the United States unless under a publication ban.

Even then cops in the United States don't go all trigger happy like in Canada to troll the internet to threaten non-Canadian online users with arrest for naming someone in a Canadian publication ban.

Free Speech is definitely NOT Free in Canada if Dr. Janice Fiamengo is afraid to disclose her court case in fear of police harassment or being thrown into a loonie house over unfounded claims of mental illness [severity public safety risk].

Post: #15

Ok, enough of that Ryerson University totalitarianism. The MGTOW thread I linked in previous post, will provide enough info for those interested. Disregard that "MGTOW" conntation in the thread.

Dr. Janice Fiamengo isn't going to publicly speak about the discrimination Tribunal lawsuit against her. The YouTube blogger Studio Brule provided basic info about the discrimination lawsuit below





A man working in a job involving colleges, schools, academia in Canada really need to be advised to prevent such vexatious & strategtic "discrimination" or "harassment" lawsuits from those SJW crowd.

Plus, I WNB Janice Fiamengo unless she pays me to do fun stuff with her.

Post: #16

Janice Fiamengo is a stand up chick, one of the best friends the modern man has when it comes to speaking honestly about feminism and gender. She might be the only pro-male female I know of who I don't think is secretly an attention whore.

If you don't know her, check out her series "The Fiamengo Files," on youtube:

Fiamengo Files Season 1

Pick a video, any video, they are all excellent. She even had Roosh's back during the Battle of Toronto:






I respect her a lot.

This really sucks, and I wouldn't be surprised if it was a coordinated attack of some sort, since they couldn't take her down for her cool and reasoned arguments against feminism, they thought outside the box and got her on a technicality in the teacher's code.

Couldn't deal with her tenure and her honesty, so they did an end run around the issues and are trying to drum her out of academia.

She is the real deal, and ex feminist who saw the light, was honest she was wrong, and wasn't afraid to talk about it, despite the consequences in her life.

Shouldn't be happening to her, she is a stand up girl.

Post: #17

(10-25-2016 07:57 PM)RBerkley Wrote:  It has come to my knowledge that Dr. Janice Fiamengo is a defendant in a "Human Rights" complaint initiated by a student of hers at the University of Ottawa.

Dr. Janice Fiamengo is subject to individual litigation, even though her employer, University of Ottawa is considered the organization responsible for the alleged "discrimination".




Is it convenient that when anti-PC culture is becoming popular at UofT under Professor Jordan Peterson, that other anti-feminist Professors are being purged out by SJW around Ontario?

I wanted to make a new thread because Dr. Janice Fiamengo's litigation is a sepearate incident because Professor Jordan Peterson is more anti-PC than a Men's Rights activist like Dr. Janice Fiamengo.

That's what I'm talking about RBerkley. You can still have on Ontario all you want, as long as you make sure to provide some value to the forum. This thread, + your economical one on Canada, is putting you in the right path.

Post: #18

Captain Gh,

I thought that Canadian sheeple would be the 1st to attack me for posting information which puts their country in a bad light, especially when it comes to criticizing feminism.

My research on this thread can safely say that Toronto-occupied-Ontario creates Canada into worse than a Banana Republic or North Korea. I don't even think North Korea's Leader Kim Jung Yong even cares about spreading feminism or punishing men who will not conform to the idea of Toronto feminism.

It's only in Canada that tenured Professors risk imprisonment and face state tribunals because of "hate speech" alleged by SJW mob mentality.

In the United States "hate speech" is not a crime because it violates the First Amendment. It is however illegal to threaten people, and that is not protected by the First Amendment.

Questioning feminism and lesbians in Canada is not supposed to be hate speech, but unfortunately hate speech is one law which police and courts in Canada enforce harshly even if the "hate speech" is just criticizing feminists or gays. Oppressive Country for free speech.

Post: #19

OK....It appears that Dr. Janice Fiamengo isn't updating her in her Fiamengo File episodes like she used to, so hopefully the Human Rights Tribunal Ontario didn't silence her from producing videos even when it isn't relating to the court case against her.

These videos are in relation to one of Dr. Janice Flamingo's concern about that Ryerson University student discussed above, which I'm adding to this thread.

It looks like the OPP squad in Ontario went to that Ryerson student's family cottage located in Norland, Ontario, & they used a militarized explosive device to force open the door of the cottage. The OPP claimed that they wanted the Ryerson University student back into Toronto even though he was on Bail. But blasting open a door with an explosive for a person whose Bail was "revoked"? Strange...




The important lesson here is that politically incorrect speech in feminist-infected parts of Toronto-occupied-Ontario will cause that person to end up in deep, deep shit, whether it be a court case of Janice Fiamengo for "discriminating" against a female student, or that Ryerson University student who went to his campus medical clinic to seek mental help,only to be treated like a criminal & later having the OPP use military explosive devices to blast down his family cottage door as if it was a war zone.

Tip of the day: an ARREST warrant doesn't authorize a search of another person's premises. They also need a search warrant to check someone else's premises. OPP Tried to trick the family owner of the cottage to enter the premises to take away the Ryerson University student back to Toronto:




There are other videos which there was that York Region cop telling the Ryerson student to "plead guilty" to whatever charge was against him to obtain what the cop promised was a "Peace Bond:




Be careful of what you say to anyone in Toronto-occupied-Ontario. It looks like they either will pull you into a court tribunal like Dr. Janice Figment or arrested on trumped up charges like that Ryerson student. IANAL but, exercise caution to whom you talk to in the feminazi infected DEFCOCK 1 zones in Canada.

Post: #20

(10-28-2016 10:37 AM)RBerkley Wrote:  In a similar situation of Canadian censorship & shady pro-feminist police:

York Regional Police went to Toronto to warn a Ryerson student about posting videos online.




What did the Ryerson University student do? Did he do child pornography & posted it online? Did he use the internet to molest millions of babies?

Nope! He filmed an incident on Ryerson University campus concerning how a female doctor on campus informed the Toronto Police to arrest him, but because he uploaded the video, he is subject to police harassment & trumped-up charges, probably because the female doctor doesn't want anyone to know the incident




The incident at the Ryerson University campus medical centre:




Dr. Janice Fiamengo knows that mentioning any of her accuser/s by name will get her into trouble.

This is not a good example. Under the Ontario Mental Health act if someone gives you reason to think that they are an immediate risk of harm to themselves or others you are obligated to complete a Form 1 to have an involuntary admission to hospital for psychiatric assessment. It is temporary, and then a full assessment has to be done and signed by 2 doctors to extend any stay to up to 30 days.

We have no idea what this person said to the doctor, but pretty much no one who needs to be formed goes willingly for admission once they are presented with the Form - hence the entire point of involuntary admission. There is absolutely no way that any doctor would form a patient without a justifiable reason as they risk losing their license. They often need to be escorted by security or police to hospital but are not arrested or charged with anything.

I don't know how the law works regarding the patient uploading the video of the encounter to youtube, but I do think it's insane if the physician should suffer the risk of losing her license, complaints to the College of Physicians from outside people, financial harm due to loss of reputation, any extrajudicial threats that may come from private citizens, basically for following the mandated protocol in the Ontario Mental Health act. The video of the encounter is completely taken out of the context of the visit and reason for the involuntary admission and should not be the basis of any of the above issues. There is a similar protocol pretty much everywhere in North America.

If the patient has a concern, he can always file a complaint with the college of physicians and surgeons or sue the patient, but posting this out of context video does strike me as an attempt at defamation (note, I don't know or understand much about defamation law).

EDIT: I see there was lots of discussion about this already - I just responded to the original post. What I would say, as someone who has had to form patients and deal with the almost inevitable fallout of that, it doesn't seem to me that there's any evidence of wrongdoing on the physician's part. I don't know what normal protocol or behaviour is for the police in this case though it seems to me that just removing the videos should be enough.

Post: #21

(02-20-2017 09:20 PM)Extinguished Light Wrote:  

(10-28-2016 10:37 AM)RBerkley Wrote:  

This is not a good example. Under the Ontario Mental Health act if someone gives you reason to think that they are an immediate risk of harm to themselves or others you are obligated to complete a Form 1 to have an involuntary admission to hospital for psychiatric assessment. It is temporary, and then a full assessment has to be done and signed by 2 doctors to extend any stay to up to 30 days.

We have no idea what this person said to the doctor, but pretty much no one who needs to be formed goes willingly for admission once they are presented with the Form - hence the entire point of involuntary admission. There is absolutely no way that any doctor would form a patient without a justifiable reason as they risk losing their license. They often need to be escorted by security or police to hospital but are not arrested or charged with anything.

I don't know how the law works regarding the patient uploading the video of the encounter to youtube, but I do think it's insane if the physician should suffer the risk of losing her license, complaints to the College of Physicians from outside people, financial harm due to loss of reputation, any extrajudicial threats that may come from private citizens, basically for following the mandated protocol in the Ontario Mental Health act. The video of the encounter is completely taken out of the context of the visit and reason for the involuntary admission and should not be the basis of any of the above issues. There is a similar protocol pretty much everywhere in North America.

If the patient has a concern, he can always file a complaint with the college of physicians and surgeons or sue the patient, but posting this out of context video does strike me as an attempt at defamation (note, I don't know or understand much about defamation law).

EDIT: I see there was lots of discussion about this already - I just responded to the original post. What I would say, as someone who has had to form patients and deal with the almost inevitable fallout of that, it doesn't seem to me that there's any evidence of wrongdoing on the physician's part. I don't know what normal protocol or behaviour is for the police in this case though it seems to me that just removing the videos should be enough.

Aside from the veiled legal threat "Doctor", what makes you think that this thread was about this snowflake doctor?

For your information, "doctor", that video was discussed in several, if not over 50 Men Rights & MGTOW platforms online & OFFLINE, which was why it was stated in a Janice Fiamengo thread regarding police harassment of a male Ryerson University student.

Janice Fiamengo discussed this incident already.Is Janice Fiamengo "defamation" this doctor for speaking on the Men's Rights Issue regarding the police harassment of the student? No wonder Ontario earns a horrible reputation for free speech.

This wasn't about the female doctor until people brought that to attention.

I think I saw a video here which stated that the female doctor in question already served several "Defamation" complaints to YouTube, but it was only banned in Canada because YouTube follows American law which protect free speech.

Plus, if the female doctor did want to engage in litigation against the several YouTube channels which uploaded those videos (Steve Katsikaris, Steve Katsikaris, Little Brother, Herman Nelson, The Team, Paul Martin & one which appears to be someone living out of Canada), along with the hundreds of comments "bashing" the doctor's "reputation", she will only cause more infamous to herself Barbara Streisand Effect.

Recording a doctor isn't a crime though, even when it is to film those cops in the office. It could be considered "invasion of confidentiality", but under this feminazi utopia, it is important for men to film women to prevent a false accusation.

I'm guessing that you're on the wrong forum Newbie, or your someone who is lurking here to defend that female doctor, or a 0.001% chance you are probably that female doctor in the video who wasn't even mentioned here, except she was in the videos regarding a police involvement at a campus student clinic in Toronto.

This thread discussed about the Ryerson university student who was harassed by police. It is only suspicious that you brought that veiled threat of litigation though.

That video in OP already viewed over 17,000+ times with 287 comments & mirrored at several other YouTube channels, including the Ryerson University student original upload which earned nearly 4,000 views & 25 comments.

The female doctor caused that on herself. She should've let the police carry Steve away rather than spend several minutes wasting time, which could cause Steve to be incriminated for "uttering threats". No way any sane person would want to talk about mental problems in Toronto.
We don't like no threats of Libel Chill on here.

Post: #22

I wasn't trying to make a veiled threat at you, I was referring to the idea of the patient taping the video and posting it up. I honestly don't know what the rules are about something like that or how I would go about getting that taken down if someone posted videos of me. Obviously nothing wrong with us talking about it or reposting if it is up and freely available.

Post: #23

^ But you were implying before that it's common protocol for a Doctor to sign a Form One against a mentally ill student & later that student's Northern Ontario family cottage gets blown by a military-grade explosive to enter his family's cottage to send him back to Toronto over a cancelled "Bail" reason?

This thread was about how police & the justice system target free thinkers like Dr.Janice Fiamengo, BUT the student's experience of police harassment was discussed & police harassing him.

There was a video shared where the owner of the YouTube channel uploaded several slides of YouTube being served with a court order for "defamation", which was why I would presume that you were probably a donut eater pig or crooked lawyer trying to close this thread with veiled legal threats because it appears that the female doc indeed want to erase everything relating to this incident.

BUT TOO BAD FOR HER---Steve Katsikaris or whoever his name is, already became infamous with that video, that it became a topic in several offline Men's Rights committees last year. The focus wasn't on the female doctor,but the police harassment.

It only became viral again when that Ryerson student Steve posted more video which claimed that he was Gagged in Toronto & the police who were harassing him are appealing the acquittal this year.

Janice Fiamengo is Gagged, in a separate case regarding a female student, because she didn't upload any new videos.

Gagging people in Ontario appears to be totalitarianism.

Post: #24

OK, "Doctor"...I'll give you beyond the benefit of a doubt.

If indeed, that student was a mental risk to public safety & suddenly he told you on Nov. 18, 2015 "I hate all (insert race here) & I will harm the nearest (person) after this session",
& you signed that Form One & informed the police & campus security.

Do you go back into that office when the police arrive?

Does the student get charged for any crime if his evaluation proves he was not mentally unstable for a 30-day evaluation & he was released November 20 2015?

Does the student end up pulled away from his Toronto house by York Regional Police for "uttering threats" in that office?

Does that student end up, in June 2016, having his family cottage home blown up with a military grade explosive by the Ontario provincial police, so that the OPP can send that student back to Toronto?

This is the police brutality that MRA & MGTOW platforms are discussing their concern. This isn't about the female doctor; it's about police harassment & brutality.

Post: #25

I said its normal for police to take you from whatever clinical setting for involuntary admission after signing a form 1, I didn't comment on them going to his house for whatever they ended up arresting him for. The video struck a nerve with me because it it hits close to home regarding my work.

You're obviously not wrong about the free speech restrictions being written into law in Ontario, as Peterson has talked a lot about, but unfortunately they're coming to the country as a whole with C-16 and M-103