Post: #1

http://junkee.com/australian-start-open-...-men/88596

Quote:A pair of Brisbane entrepreneurs have announced an “innovative way to address male related social issues” through the establishment of Australia’s first co-working space exclusive to men. Because if there’s one thing the startup sector needs it’s a blanket ban on women.

Nomadic Thinkers has the backing of six investors and will operate through a “hybridised co-working model with a gym space.” Membership of the space and the gym is open only to men. The founders have acknowledged that the creation of a gender-restricted co-working space “is bound to ruffle some feathers.”

A number of networking events run specifically for women have operated for a while in Australia’s notoriously male dominated startup scene and this year the first woman only co-working space was established in Perth. This latest offering is the first time a co-working space has been established to cater specifically to men. The lack of investment in male only working spaces could be down to the fact that currently three in four startups in Australia are founded by men.

The Nomadic Thinkers founders are currently in lease negotiations and the plan is to open up the space in January next year. Initially it will feature just a co-working space, cafe and a gym but “down the road we’re hoping to get a barber and a physio,” Monaghan says.

The startup offers a number of membership packages including “The Bear Grylls” and the “The Musk Have”, named after billionaire entrepreneur Elon Musk.

Junkee asked Samuel Monaghan, one of Nomadic Thinkers’ founders, how he would respond if, heavens forbid, a woman applied for membership.

“We’re really flattered by that, but unfortunately we’d have to decline. But we can refer you to other co-working spaces we’ve partnered with,” he answered. Monaghan touted a partnership with established Brisbane startup network, Little Tokyo Two (LTT), but a staff member there told Junkee there was no formal arrangement with Nomadic Thinkers.

“It’s all very early stage,” the LTT staffer said. “A proposal came across our desk but there were things we wanted changed.” They described the idea of a men’s only co-working space as “not lining up with the values” of LTT.

“A men’s only space didn’t fly with us,” they said. LTT itself is the process of establishing women’s centric and LGBTI centric spaces in order to improve collaboration and diversity within the startup community.

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Why Create An All Male Working Space?

Monaghan told Junkee that there were “a couple of things that got us to this point.”

“We’d been working in coffee shops and at home and it wasn’t that conducive to working,” Monaghan said. “We both had a mate who ended up in a violent situation with his wife. He pushed his wife over.”

According to Monaghan, domestic violence is an issue that “stems from depression in many cases”.

“Depression and suicide result from a lack of social support and community. Having a space where they [men] can be men is more of a preventative measure,” Monaghan said. “Healthy, happy men don’t hit their wives.”

Professor Marian Baird, the Director of the University of Sydney’s Women and Work Research Group told Junkee that Nomadic Thinkers could be the first workplace overtly designed to be exclusive to men. “I’ve never heard of a workplace being designed deliberately to be male only in a physical sense,” Professor Baird said.

Professor Baird wasn’t convinced by Monaghan’s justification for the exclusive nature of the space. “I don’t think there’s any excuse for domestic violence and I think that is a bit of a cop-out,” she said.

A Parliamentary Library research paper assessing “the risk factors associated with perpetrators and victims of domestic violence” did not find any link between men suffering from depression and perpetrating domestic violence. It found that the strongest risk factors related to the perpetrators “drinking habits, levels of aggression and controlling behaviours”. It also found that “domestic violence cuts across social and economic boundaries.”


According to Professor Baird, Nomadic Thinkers risks reinforcing damaging prejudices that could harm women. “I think the outcome of making it a male only workplace, and the disdavatanges and prejudices that could flow from that, outweigh any benefits they think they’re providing.

“I think the issue it raises is that these sorts of new work sites are in the sector that uses new technology. We already know that sector is heavily masculine. This entrenches that masculinity,” she said.

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Is It Legal?

It is unlawful in Australia to make hiring decisions or deny services on the basis of gender. However Nomadic Thinkers were adamant that their model was “legally fine.”

Professor Baird suggested that the co-working arrangement could fall into a legal grey area. So should sex discrimination laws stay up to date with changes to how workplaces are organised?

“Absolutely,” she said. “This is the future of many workplaces, especially in the startup sector.”

Monaghan told Junkee that women would be able to access the front section of the space, including the cafe and meeting rooms, but would not be allowed into the actual working space. So far they’ve received forty applications for membership.

“We live in a stoic culture,” he said. “As guys in Australia we’re told to suck it up. When women are around we have trouble being vulnerable. We’re helping men who are professional. It’s a healthy environment for men.

“I’m 25 and I’ve grown up in this culture where we don’t have any rites of passage. In other cultures you go out and hunt in a forest for three days. We just hit 15 and start drinking. There’s a real loss of identity for men. We used to go to war together. Girls do it better naturally, they have tea parties and stuff.”

Triggered

Post: #2

Fuck me, and here I was thinking the shitlord instinct had died out here.

They're about to go through hell, but 10/10 for daring to make a break for the fences in Prison Australia.

God save us from people who mean well. -storm

Post: #3

(11-01-2016 08:33 PM)Paracelsus Wrote:  Fuck me, and here I was thinking the shitlord instinct had died out here.

They're about to go through hell, but 10/10 for daring to make a break for the fences in Prison Australia.

Assuming they don't cross any legal boundaries they'll make a fortune- I would say the whole basis of the idea was to get media attention and attract shit lords like us- assuming they aren't all faggots I'd work there

Post: #4

Make Australia Great Again:

Post: #5

Bitches have women only gyms so fuck them and how can it be illegal for male only spaces?

Post: #6

OK which one of you is this?

Post: #7

(11-02-2016 01:43 AM)RatInTheWoods Wrote:  Bitches have women only gyms so fuck them and how can it be illegal for male only spaces?

This

Post: #8

(11-02-2016 01:43 AM)RatInTheWoods Wrote:  Bitches have women only gyms so fuck them and how can it be illegal for male only spaces?

This came up recently when gentlemen's clubs were pushed to allow female applicants. Even traditionally right leaning writer Rita Panahi penned an airheaded piece about it, suggesting that women's gyms are OK because women need to feel safe but gentlemen's clubs were an anachronism. Thankfully the comments section was riddled with advice for her to get over herself and shut the fuck up, both from men and seemingly lower/middle class women (where it seems the only sane ones reside).

This is just university bitches being university bitches. They can't stand to be excluded, even when it's painfully obvious that their exclusion is reasonable. Keep in mind that this also has nothing to do with the law, common sense or reason. Modern "equality" movements are nothing more than political class warfare and should always be viewed as such. Enemy action.

Post: #9

At least Australia has 'men's sheds' groups, something that is sorely lacking for boys and men in the States.

http://mensshed.org

Post: #10

Completely true that "equality" is just a dishonest device of political warfare. Equality is just the half-way point you pass on the way to domination.

Post: #11

Let The Shaming commence!

Quote:THEY tried to paint their mens-only office as a “social impact-minded start-up”.

But the radical world view behind Nomadic Thinkers has been exposed in a cache of deleted blog posts, which claim that men are “persecuted” and stunted by post-feminist culture and “toxic” women.

Brisbane’s Samuel Monaghan and Matthew Mercer, who came up with the bro-tastic co-working space as a way to nurture men’s self esteem, have gone to ground after a deluge of criticism on social media.

Mr Monaghan first provoked the ire of domestic violence survivors when he proclaimed that the issue was caused by depression, because “happy men don’t hit their wives”.

“We both had a mate who ended up in a violent situation with his wife. He pushed his wife over,” he told Junkee.

“Depression and suicide result from a lack of social support and community.

Having a space where they [men] can be men is more of a preventive measure.”

Mr Monaghan said men had trouble being vulnerable when women were around, taking aim at the “stoic” Australian culture that told men to “suck it up” while depriving them of masculine rites of passage.

“In other cultures you go out and hunt in a forest for three days. We just hit 15 and start drinking,” he said.

“There’s a real loss of identity for men. We used to go to war together. Girls do it better naturally, they have tea parties and stuff.”

After being attacked on Twitter and Facebook, the pair shut down their Nomadic Thinker and personal accounts, along with its blog — which they said was due to copyright issues.

But the blog can still be read through Google’s webcache, which gives a startling insight into the philosophy behind the project.

‘PERSECUTED MEN’
In a post titled “Are you a pathetic man-child?” the Nomadic Thinkers claim that men are being “persecuted for expressing their masculinity” and that feminism has gone too far.

A lack of strong male role models was contributing to marriage breakdowns, male depression, suicide and domestic violence, the blog claimed.

“This is why we have 35-year-old man-child’s [sic] living with their mummies, suckling on a wrinkly mammary gland, with no intention of leaving.”

“I would say that we live in the most challenging time and culture to be a man,” the post says, harking back to the days of hunter and gatherer societies where men’s primary role was “to protect and provide for their families and communities”. But men were failing to embody their masculinity due to the excesses of feminism, they argued.

“We have become a culture that praises androgyny, glorifies gender role removal and tolerates all beliefs and choices except the traditional,” the post said.

“With the media pushing images of passive men, the clumsy dad, the goofy and dimwitted boyfriend, the incompetent boss, men are being seduced into a placated and listless expression of themselves.”

‘REJECT TOXIC WOMEN’

The blog also contains advice on how men can navigate the vexed world of heterosexual unions, including “taking a proactive role in leadership in your relationship” and finding a rare “quality” female partner in order to propagate the world with like-minded offspring.

While in contemporary society “the risk of finding a quality mate is high”, men can increase their “sexual marketplace value” by “increasing your traits as a provider and protector”.

In short, find a way to earn more and “hit the gym”, advises the post, titled “Reject toxic women and find a quality one”.

How this approach aims to cure men of their mental health woes remains unclear.

Jenna Price from anti-violence lobby group Destroy the Joint said the idea that men needed to be protected was “just so laughable”.

“I don’t think a male-only space, without serious support services such as counselling, is going to help anyone with feelings of rage and power, or who has that kind of impotence to control,” Ms Price told news.com.au, adding that there were plenty of male-only spaces in the boardrooms of Australia’s top companies.

In a statement on their website, Mr Monaghan and Mr Mercer said the project “was always going to be a source of contention, however we had hoped for constructive and meaningful conversations”.

“Unfortunately, it has come across that we trivialise the significance of domestic violence and depression,” the statement said.

“We would like to express our apologies as this is not the case. Our intention is and has always been to highlight the seriousness and social costs of these issues, and take an immersive and proactive approach towards action.”

Typist Dana McCauley. WYB?


Jenna Price from anti-violence group Destroy The Joint. No need to ask.

Post: #12

(11-03-2016 01:53 PM)Conscious Pirate Wrote:  Let The Shaming commence!

Quote:THEY tried to paint their mens-only office as a “social impact-minded start-up”.

But the radical world view behind Nomadic Thinkers has been exposed in a cache of deleted blog posts, which claim that men are “persecuted” and stunted by post-feminist culture and “toxic” women.

Brisbane’s Samuel Monaghan and Matthew Mercer, who came up with the bro-tastic co-working space as a way to nurture men’s self esteem, have gone to ground after a deluge of criticism on social media.

Mr Monaghan first provoked the ire of domestic violence survivors when he proclaimed that the issue was caused by depression, because “happy men don’t hit their wives”.

“We both had a mate who ended up in a violent situation with his wife. He pushed his wife over,” he told Junkee.

“Depression and suicide result from a lack of social support and community.

Having a space where they [men] can be men is more of a preventive measure.”

Mr Monaghan said men had trouble being vulnerable when women were around, taking aim at the “stoic” Australian culture that told men to “suck it up” while depriving them of masculine rites of passage.

“In other cultures you go out and hunt in a forest for three days. We just hit 15 and start drinking,” he said.

“There’s a real loss of identity for men. We used to go to war together. Girls do it better naturally, they have tea parties and stuff.”

After being attacked on Twitter and Facebook, the pair shut down their Nomadic Thinker and personal accounts, along with its blog — which they said was due to copyright issues.

But the blog can still be read through Google’s webcache, which gives a startling insight into the philosophy behind the project.

‘PERSECUTED MEN’
In a post titled “Are you a pathetic man-child?” the Nomadic Thinkers claim that men are being “persecuted for expressing their masculinity” and that feminism has gone too far.

A lack of strong male role models was contributing to marriage breakdowns, male depression, suicide and domestic violence, the blog claimed.

“This is why we have 35-year-old man-child’s [sic] living with their mummies, suckling on a wrinkly mammary gland, with no intention of leaving.”

“I would say that we live in the most challenging time and culture to be a man,” the post says, harking back to the days of hunter and gatherer societies where men’s primary role was “to protect and provide for their families and communities”. But men were failing to embody their masculinity due to the excesses of feminism, they argued.

“We have become a culture that praises androgyny, glorifies gender role removal and tolerates all beliefs and choices except the traditional,” the post said.

“With the media pushing images of passive men, the clumsy dad, the goofy and dimwitted boyfriend, the incompetent boss, men are being seduced into a placated and listless expression of themselves.”

‘REJECT TOXIC WOMEN’

The blog also contains advice on how men can navigate the vexed world of heterosexual unions, including “taking a proactive role in leadership in your relationship” and finding a rare “quality” female partner in order to propagate the world with like-minded offspring.

While in contemporary society “the risk of finding a quality mate is high”, men can increase their “sexual marketplace value” by “increasing your traits as a provider and protector”.

In short, find a way to earn more and “hit the gym”, advises the post, titled “Reject toxic women and find a quality one”.

How this approach aims to cure men of their mental health woes remains unclear.

Jenna Price from anti-violence lobby group Destroy the Joint said the idea that men needed to be protected was “just so laughable”.

“I don’t think a male-only space, without serious support services such as counselling, is going to help anyone with feelings of rage and power, or who has that kind of impotence to control,” Ms Price told news.com.au, adding that there were plenty of male-only spaces in the boardrooms of Australia’s top companies.

In a statement on their website, Mr Monaghan and Mr Mercer said the project “was always going to be a source of contention, however we had hoped for constructive and meaningful conversations”.

“Unfortunately, it has come across that we trivialise the significance of domestic violence and depression,” the statement said.

“We would like to express our apologies as this is not the case. Our intention is and has always been to highlight the seriousness and social costs of these issues, and take an immersive and proactive approach towards action.”

Typist Dana McCauley. WYB?


Jenna Price from anti-violence group Destroy The Joint. No need to ask.

Here I was assuming it was all part of their plan to generate outrage to sell their spaces... Good luck with your battles gentlemen

Post: #13

Quote:In short, find a way to earn more and “hit the gym”, advises the post, titled “Reject toxic women and find a quality one”.

How this approach aims to cure men of their mental health woes remains unclear.

Jenna Price from anti-violence lobby group Destroy the Joint said the idea that men needed to be protected was “just so laughable”.

“I don’t think a male-only space, without serious support services such as counselling, is going to help anyone with feelings of rage and power, or who has that kind of impotence to control,” Ms Price told news.com.au, adding that there were plenty of male-only spaces in the boardrooms of Australia’s top companies.

You just can't win with these bitches. Even a small group of men who literally don't want women near them is still being framed as an issue of "violence against women". How do you explain to these drones that it is not possible to be violent towards someone/something with which you have no contact?

And I still can't get my head around why they would even ask for a womans opinion on what is good for men? Newsflash lady - we don't need stupid "support services such as counselling". That's womens stuff. You do your thing, and we'll do ours.

Man...I would have laughed this off a year ago but I'm running hot with the excitement and magnitude of the Trump campaign and this sort of shit is getting to me.

Post: #14

(11-01-2016 08:35 PM)LordMayorMuffSniff Wrote:  

(11-01-2016 08:33 PM)Paracelsus Wrote:  Fuck me, and here I was thinking the shitlord instinct had died out here.

They're about to go through hell, but 10/10 for daring to make a break for the fences in Prison Australia.

Assuming they don't cross any legal boundaries they'll make a fortune- I would say the whole basis of the idea was to get media attention and attract shit lords like us- assuming they aren't all faggots I'd work there

I can tell you right now they aren't going to make a dime.

They'll be closed in 3 months. Mark my words.

People were talking about coworking spaces a while ago. Its a stupid idea and a fad that will wear off.

And with these guys, isn't one of the things do working spaces offer is a conference area?

So say you want to pitch a client. (That's business lingo) They are already aware that you aren't good enough at what you do to have your own office. You invite them to your shared space conference room but they can't bring their secretaries because its dudes only.

And then with the SJW angle, any guy who rents there is immediately a misogyinist.

By the way, I think many a year ago one of the things JJ Roberts wanted to talk to me about was this shared office crap.

Bad idea.

Aloha!

Post: #15

I think there might be some more stuff missing from that JJ Roberts encounter that needs to be told haha.

Post: #16

I have to agree with Kona here. The idea itself is only attractive to r-selected types anyway. So their target market is all off.

Why pay to share a space when we all have our own basements at mum's place?

Post: #17

(11-03-2016 10:12 PM)Kona Wrote:  I can tell you right now they aren't going to make a dime.

They'll be closed in 3 months. Mark my words.

People were talking about coworking spaces a while ago. Its a stupid idea and a fad that will wear off.

And with these guys, isn't one of the things do working spaces offer is a conference area?

So say you want to pitch a client. (That's business lingo) They are already aware that you aren't good enough at what you do to have your own office. You invite them to your shared space conference room but they can't bring their secretaries because its dudes only.

And then with the SJW angle, any guy who rents there is immediately a misogyinist.

My understanding is that its only the bullpen/working space that's men only. Conference rooms and other client meeting areas would not be bound by that rule, obviously.

Where you do have a point is if the SJW's manage to successfully brand the office as bad/misogynist to the point where it impacts the business of people working there. Then you're entirely correct that the whole idea will fail.

Post: #18

(11-03-2016 01:53 PM)Conscious Pirate Wrote:  
Jenna Price from anti-violence group Destroy The Joint. No need to ask.

I've met her. Was immensely surprised at her normal, amiable demeanor in person. Honestly seemed like a jovial and considerate great-aunt. Caught her on a good day?

But then you read her Destroy the Joint updates or her columns and think she's batshit crazy. According to DTJ, any female homicide is a case of misogyny, even in cases where some dude kills a girl AND another guy.

Post: #19

(11-04-2016 04:14 AM)david.garrett84 Wrote:  

(11-03-2016 01:53 PM)Conscious Pirate Wrote:  
Jenna Price from anti-violence group Destroy The Joint. No need to ask.

I've met her. Was immensely surprised at her normal, amiable demeanor in person. Honestly seemed like a jovial and considerate great-aunt. Caught her on a good day?

But then you read her Destroy the Joint updates or her columns and think she's batshit crazy. According to DTJ, any female homicide is a case of misogyny, even in cases where some dude kills a girl AND another guy.

She's normal and amiable because she's a member of the most secure (if not richest except by extraction) caste on the face of the planet: white women. Also because she knows she has nothing to fear from you, a man, because she has the MSM, often the court system, and hordes of deluded bluehairs to take you down if you say something nasty to her. Not to mention that, being an old white woman in the West, she has no real desire to destroy any joint, and certainly not any joint that would require her to do any actual work, like, say, frontline policing, frontline combat, frontline construction, frontline mining, frontline mechanics, etc, etc...

Old but amusing piece on Destroy The Point. In short, most feminists with grey or greying pubic hairs think they're a bunch of idiots.

https://www.crikey.com.au/2013/03/11/raz...the-point/

Quote:Anyone who knows me even a little makes sure to avoid the topic of gender in my company. My ideas about gender come more from Judith Butler than they do from, say, Growing Pains. An express route to my trousers is to talk about the seams that join Freud to Marx. My relationship with feminism is long, ardent and difficult.

Feminism. It keeps me awake at night. Yeah, I got problems. But not so many, I’d venture, as an Australian feminism that produces twaddle like this. For International Women’s Day, here is a piece that considers the special qualities women might bring as leaders of professional media.

WHAT? What? WHAT?

Are women better media leaders?

Rebekah Brooks is the answer. Marissa Mayer is the answer. Gina Rinehart is the answer. Fucking NO is the answer.

That professed feminists can think that women have “special” qualities that they might bring to enterprise is fucking beyond me. Women are not nicer. Women are not a civilising influence. Women are just as capable of avarice and stupidity as anyone.

This “if only women ruled the world” shit has no place outside the Hallmark Corporation. Ascribing a Marian grace to my gender might work in the Catholic Church but it really shouldn’t have any function for those who do not worship the Blessed Virgin.

Women are not gifted, either socially or biologically, of anything special. If we believe that they are, then we must also accept the possibility that the gender could be marked with unpleasant characteristics. If we believe that women are “better negotiators” or “great multitaskers”, we can also easily believe they are “not very good with money”.

I find any work that even considers the idea that privileged white women do things in any way that is markedly superior or different to the things done by privileged white men so ineffably deluded I want to take ALL of the Alanis Morissette CDs purchased in the 1990s and make a sculpture of an enormous plastic masturbating woman and win the Turner Prize with a piece I have called “Enormous Plastic Masturbating Woman Wins the Turner Prize”.

Anyhow. The writing. One of many pieces of crap I saw today. I know little of its author Jenna Price. However, I certainly do know how to Google and, as a Media Professional, could easily pretend I have been aware of the lady’s work as an activist and academic for some time. And, in a way, I have as she is one of the architects of the local “movement” known as “Destroy the Joint”.

No. Destroy the Joint is not a competitive league of doobie smokers, nor is it the work of those who especially like to eat spring lamb. It is, in fact, the locus for much feminist “action” and so a good site for inquiry.

Look. If you don’t know about it, read this hagiography. In short, the campaign sought to reignite feminism through a social media critique of traditional media.

“I know the Labor Party deludes itself that the electorate can be nudged to good by marginal lies and marketing. Don’t make the same mistake.”

For mine, Destroy the Joint began, very quickly, to Destroy the Point. As a fairly rash user of social media myself, I made the view known to tens of followers that I found the exercise distastefully onanistic. The fast cycles of uncritical rage that greeted a number of purportedly “misogynist” incidents — the average comedy of Daniel Tosh, the dressing of children in inappropriate clothing, the naming of a racehorse as a woman — brought to mind the usual pace of my own visits to RedTube.

We sit in front of screens and we suspend our thought to enhance our desire and then we mash our own genitals to the point they explode in a brief but ecstatic frenzy of nothing especially productive. It’s a sad little ragegasm we need to repeat seven times a day in the absence of genuine congress.

I do not mind a good wank but I have little patience for a bad one and this mean and dessicated DTJ masturbation must, at some point, cease. The expense of this libidinal energy cannot be calculated. We are spending our climaxes in tiny online moments when, really, they are due elsewhere to fuck the system.

Feminism is the struggle against masculinsed violence and feminised poverty. Or, the acknowledgement that physical violence is enacted disproportionately by men and poverty is experienced disproportionately by women. That’s it, really.

And don’t give me that “there are many feminisms” shit. Yes, of course there are and my experience of gender is markedly different to that of a lass (or lad) living, say, in Maputo. But, for the sake of fuck, at SOME point, we have to agree about our basic aims and get off this DTJ-endorsed fap-wreck before we all perish from the carnal stink.

There are two chief DTJ problems and the first is that it feels like a cultural studies tutorial from 1991. I know what it is like to be absorbed in the novelty of semiotics and that “Angrily Calling Out Sexism Wherever You See It” is habit-forming. The behaviour is compulsive and sometimes, you know, it makes you act before you think and you get it wrong. SO wrong. I recall, for example, a moment in which DTJ ally Anne Summers called a urinal shaped like a mouth “misogynist”.

That the mouth urinals purchased by a Sydney restaurant were very clearly referencing the famous John Pasche Rolling Stones male mouth logo was immaterial; the lavs are on display at a Rolling Stones museum in Germany. And, that these latrines had been present for years just a kilometre away in Oxford St in the bathroom of a club for homosexual men was not deemed relevant, either. Didn’t matter. Here, recourse to logic and facts would mean a pause in the fun, fast online work of screaming “MISOGYNY”.

In one social media conversation, a DTJ “pledge” told me I was a misogynist for “supporting” (NB: if one is not objecting along with DTJ then one is supporting rape, et al) this “crap”. As a great fan of Marcel Duchamp’s readymades, I couldn’t have been happier when she told me that a “urinal could never be art”. HA HA HA.

How am I the only person reminded here of the Piss Christ shame of the ’90s with Summers and DTJ cast as George Pell? The idea that art (yes, even low or middle-brow art; and that includes Sexist Comedians) needs absolution from the Feminist Cardinal is, to me at least, anathema.

(Was it a similar frustration with dummies that drove both Germaine Greer and Camille Paglia to publish on the topic of visual art?)

So. Yes. Bad cultural studies practice is the first problem. The second problem is that DTJ and her associates actually believe they are healing the faithless.

Look. Here’s the thing: telling people they are being disadvantaged is a tricky business, Caroline Chisholm. There’s something dangerously missionary in an approach that seeks to draft sisters to a Crusade chiefly at war with nonsense on the behalf of hollow gods. You are make-believe-slaying paps that snap pregnant celebrities. Oooooh.

Are these your true adversaries? Do you REALLY think The Patriarchy will cease to function if you boycott a bar or a performer or a clothing store? Are you jamming the gears of capitalism by defending Chrissie Swan?

No, honey. You’re not.

Baby, what are you fighting for? I presume the rationale is that by talking about “Everyday Sexism”, Everyday Women will join the struggle.

No. Don’t think so. People aren’t that easily led or recruited. I know the Labor Party deludes itself that the electorate can be nudged to good by marginal lies and marketing. Don’t make the same mistake. Tell your constituency it is the struggle against masculinised violence and feminised poverty. They are bright and brave enough to hear it. It is arrogant and unhelpful and even alienating to suppose that they are not.

If you want to politicise someone, here’s a thought: talk to them about politics.

You don’t need some ridiculous spin about inappropriate plumbing or sexist wallpaper or whatever the fuck it is this week to apprentice folk to The Struggle. You need to read some macroeconomics, bitches, and spread the fucking word.

Hey. I’m right. I was, in fact, appointed feminism’s door bitch. And, no, you can’t come in if all you have to talk about is The Need For More Women CEOs and Less Sexism in Ads.

I am, however, flexible about double denims.

God save us from people who mean well. -storm

Post: #20

Business insider had an article somewhat trashing the Nomadic Thinkers and they linked to an old blog post from October that is now hidden.

Notice the last snippets:

Quote:“Another way of looking at this is taking a proactive role in leadership in your relationship setting ground rules at the beginning is vital. But how do you get to that point? If you are well versed with ROK and other manosphere blogs the best way you can do this is by increasing your sexual marketplace value,” it goes on."

Quote:"The age old adage there is strength in numbers rings true… Simply put we launch men in business and life. Reclaim masculinity and build our society not just online through great blogs like ROK but in your real life also."

They mention ROK. Shit is going to hit the fan when the SJWs see this.

Post: #21

Wondering how long they'll stand their grounds. Nice idea though and I support them.

Post: #22

Quote:there were plenty of male-only spaces in the boardrooms of Australia’s top companies.

Yeah because that helps your average guy

Post: #23

Is there any way we can support them? Do they have a Gofundme or anything?

Post: #24

It's for the ladies protection so sexual harassment never happens. We respect them so much that we want them to have their own space.

Post: #25

(11-07-2016 07:31 AM)Roardog Wrote:  

Quote:there were plenty of male-only spaces in the boardrooms of Australia’s top companies.

Yeah because that helps your average guy

It's just Apex Fallacy, same old blinders that feminist horses have been wearing since roughly the second wave.

God save us from people who mean well. -storm