Post: #1

I really like a girl who goes to my school. I almost never have aproach anxiety and in fact tend to act irrationally confident, but I haven't been able to avoid act like a complete ass with this girl. Have you guys been able to change an adverse scenario where you started very bad with a girl? My biggest problem is that I can never find her alone and I don't want to confront the group in case something goes wrong.

Post: #2

(11-17-2016 08:05 PM)Bycicleguy Wrote:  I really like a girl who goes to my school. I almost never have aproach anxiety and in fact tend to act irrationally confident, but I haven't been able to avoid act like a complete ass with this girl. Have you guys been able to change an adverse scenario where you started very bad with a girl?

I had lots of AA, especially towards new people. Had very little experience with girls. I used to sweat talking to even average looking girls. But within my group of friends i am an assholic extrovert. I tend to be like you just within my circle of friends. My problem was with only new people, so I started daygaming. It took me 300 approaches to get rid off AA.

The idea is to stay in the middle. Game is like fishing. If the string is too tight(too much asshole game,teasing) then you scare the fish away. if the string is too loose(nice guy) the fish will trick you. You have to find a balance and calibrate yourself. Be the soft spoken asshole.

Since started daygaming I had some good amount of dates. 3 make outs where I missed out on SDL on all three cause my end game sucks big time. But yes, it is possible to turn around a bad situation. Just needs lots of practice and determination. I had meltdowns too. If you recover then you improve, if not you will give up.

(11-17-2016 08:05 PM)Bycicleguy Wrote:  Have you ever picked up a girl after she have been acting beta

What do you mean "after she has been acting beta". I think your title is a bit misleading.

Post: #3

From the FORUM GUIDE:

(05-16-2012 07:53 AM)Roosh Wrote:  5. The members of this forum believe in a model of abundance. We consider it a waste of time to get needy with one girl who in all likelihood doesn't hold you in a positive light because of the poor game you already used on her. Once you mess up with a girl, it is almost impossible for her to change her opinion of you, no matter how good you eventually may get. In other words, if you have zero game, we don't want to hear your sob story of some girl who only wants to be friends with you. Game is about banging a lot of new girls, not one girl is 100% sure she doesn't want to bang you.

It's not your level of interest in her that matters, it's her interest level in you. At this point, you're likely much better off leaving this one alone and looking for other girls to game. I don't say this to be rude, I say it to save you needless frustration and embarrassment. You're already too heavily invested in hoping for a positive outcome, which will inevitably result in poor game.

Never forget that no matter how "special" you think this particular girl is, "She's not one in a million, but one of a million."

Post: #4

There is a time limit you have to work within to maintain sexual interest, and every bad move narrows that time limit. Often one bad move is enough.

"and in fact tend to act irrationally confident"

The key word here is act. Girls see right through this. Your best bet as Roosh said is to bang new girls. Every minute you waste being around this girl is a minute you're wasting not being around another one. From the sounds of it, you aren't even friendzoned. This is good, it means she won't try to bring you back as her emotional tampon if you stop talking to her.

Post: #5

I'm completely lost after just reading the title.

Post: #6

Just remember OP:

No matter how much you want her, no matter how hot she is, some guy, somewhere, is tired of fucking her. I promise you.

Think about that next time you see her.

Post: #7

Is she brazillian ? What kind of school ?

What is her social circle ? Are you a part of that social circle ? If not, how can you become part of it ?

Give us more background, and better formatting too.

Post: #8

(11-18-2016 02:01 AM)Merenguero Wrote:  I'm completely lost after just reading the title.

And I ended up saying something that is completely irrelevant to what he asked.
How dumb could I be

Post: #9

OP, never try to do anything to fuck this girl ever again.

It's over.

And if it isn't over, it should be over. All you are doing is engaging in one-itis and it will fuck your game up faster than you could ever realize.

Post: #10

(11-18-2016 08:35 AM)Mjölnir Wrote:  Give us more background, and better formatting too.

Sorry english is not my first language and I realized the title is confusing, I should have asked "Have you ever picked up a girl after you have been acting beta."

I think I will leave her alone, really I understand you shouldn't be so needy for a girl, but I cannot help myself with this one and it is driving me crazy, so I think it is the best. It is just that she has a very unique and soft face and I have been receiving confusing signals from her.

To explain better ths situation though, I have seen her walking around since some time ago, I thought she looked nice but I never really cared too much. One day I started to notice that she noticed me, since I went very well dressed to find another girl at the afternoon and I saw her staring at me, since then I tried to make eye contact with her when I saw her around but she was avoiding it. One of her closest friends is in the social circle of my friends but she has a very poor opinion of me.

I have seen the girl I like when my friends are reunited outside the school and her friend invites her, but I never talked to her since she was with that friend who doesn't like me and I have been waiting for a subtle moment instead of in front of everyone. Still I caught her looking at me at occasions when we were walking through the hall, during the last two weeks I started to see her ther a lot more often I actually was getting uncomfortable about how usually I was seeing her around because I noticed she was avoiding to look at me, so I started to do the same a little awkwardly, her friends kind of noticed it and I noticed they were giggling when I walked close.

Finally the other day I was walking with a very cute female friend and I noticed she was staring at me directly when she saw me with her, my friend and I went to the cafeteria and when we were on the line and my friend was busy buying I realized the girl and her group of friends came right next to us, so i thought ok this cannot be a coincidence, she is overhearing my conversation, maybe she likes me after all, so I smiled at her and waved my hand, she looked at me surprised and then avoiding eye contact she asked "are you talking to me?" and I said "well yes, I wanted to say hi since I have seen you girls, walking through the hall a lot of times already", she said like "really? I haven't really noticed you". I asked her name and she told it to me while stil looking at another direction. My friend finished buying and we were leaving, so I smiled at her and left.

I was asking myself why she told me she doesn't notice me when it is obvious she does? That is the thing, I don't know how to interpret those signals, maybe she was just playing it aloof or maybe she was just trying to make it clear for me that she is not interested. The next day I saw her a couple of times, I looked at her, but she pretended she didn't noticed me by looking at another direction, though her friends were staring at me. Then that afternoon I found another female friend on that hall and I was saying hello to my friend, then I realized the girl and her friends were very close and staring at me, I pretended I didn't notice them and they left, then I felt like an idiot.

Post: #11

OP, please stop making your situation worse. Writing a new Tolstoy novel here again about the dynamic between you and her is only aggravating your overall angst and neediness. You are so much better than this, I think, but the angst and neediness is literally dripping from your every word.

You wanted/want her to value you, but what sort of woman is going to value a man spending absolute hours every week thinking about how unfair it is that she doesn't want him?

So many people have already indicated that you need to excise this girl from your life as much as you can. Either follow the advice or join some Dr. Phil-esque forum.

This may feel harsh to you, but I'm afraid what I'm saying here is literally the ground floor of red pill thinking. There are plenty of issues that are harder to swallow than this.

Post: #12

I think you are right, I'm not trying to make a novel and make you feel bad, I was just telling the story because I wanted to explain it was with a girl of my school, I usually don't "shit where I eat" so I'm uncomfortable with this situation. Some part of me thinks that I should at least keep talking to her to make the situation less awkward, but due to the need of approval that I have developed I will probably make it worse.

Post: #13

What do you mean by "she's beta"? If you avoid this girl and she asks you why you've been avoiding her you can work with that.