Post: #1

Frankly all I need are some articles discussing this topic as I am sure it is not as common (or as recommended) as just getting a new girl.

Here is what has happened:

I took the red pill a year ago, nearly to the day now. I took it hard and thank god, never looked back. My life became so much better, bla bla bla, you have heard this a 1000 times. Anyways, I became a way more attractive man and banged multiple chicks.

A girl that I knew from my pre-red pill days recently called me, completely out of the blue. I hadn't had any contact with her at all for 10 straight months, no texts, no calls (I have no social media at all so her memory couldn't even have been jarred by any post or anything). I didn't answer, but she left a 40 second voicemail that 110% sounds like she is very attracted to me, she kind of wanders on like some chicks do when they are in the presence of an attractive man.

Granted, she knew me during my heavy, heavy beta days. But it has been a year, so I am sure word has just gotten around that I am a way more attractive guy. (She is not in my social circle anymore, she was, but that ended two years ago and any of the social awkwardness of social circles is completely gone)

I am treating her just like any new girl, in fact I am trying to avoid talking about the past at all; I won't be the one to bring up the past. I also feel like she wants to forget the past as well. Gaming her just as I have all of the other girls.

Anyways, I am having trouble coming up with an effective strategy to transition into a sexual relationship. (Its only been 2 days since she called me). I have looked around and nobody really seems to care too much about getting old girls and I can't blame them. It is much easier to just get a new girl than to have to deal with past baggage. But if there is a thread or anything about it, just link this post to it, or if there are any articles on any game sites you can think of, they would be highly appreciated.

I think am just intrigued to see if I can pull it off, it presents more of a challenge to me. Again, she is not getting any special treatment, or pedestalization, but still she is more of a challenge than a new girl.

Anyways, any articles, posts or threads on this topic would be highly appreciated, thanks guys.

And again, I know this type of thing rarely ever works out, but I like a good challenge regardless.

Post: #2

Too much drama. Move along unless you are looking for a LTR with her. As you said, you've been banging a bunch of girls. Why mess up your game unless she is something special to you?

Post: #3

yeah, you are right. It is too much drama, but like I said, I don't really care. I like a good challenge, ass has been easy for too long, I need something more stimulating in the realm of my dating world, start playing some serious head games. And yes, it would probably be more LTR than one night stand.

Post: #4

I like your 'challenge' approach, that's how I approach game as well.

You answered your own question. Treat her like any other girl. As if nothing happened before. Do not talk about those times. If she says that you changed do not go into any details, just say "maybe i've grown up who knows". Never explain anything if she asks you about it. I'm guessing that she a girl you wanted but nothing happened due to obvious reasons [we've all been there].

What do you men that you're having trouble coming up with an effective strategy to transition into a sexual relationship? What exactly are you talking about? Flirting? Touching? Escalating? Leading?

Post: #5

What I mean by transitioning to "sexual" relationship is this:

Normally you would have always had a sexual relationship with a girl you are attracted to, or presented yourself as a sexual man; but since I was a beta when we met I was not presenting myself as a sexual man.

This raises problems since she mostly knows me platonically, or "knew me" platonically. I don't think I will have that much of a problem with transitioning, however, it would still be helpful to read about anyone else's experiences with situations like this.

Post: #6

I did this at least once that I remember.

Invited her out for drinks close to my place. Got her talking, and suggested a move to mine for a movie.

Escalated as far as I could.

Didn't get the bang that night but I did later.

Post: #7

At this point, you haven't got much to lose so you might as well take a shot. Invite her out, don't talk too much about your shared past or you'll find yourself right back in the friend zone. Play aloof (as XXL suggested) and take the interaction as far as you can. If your efforts to escalate aren't well received, better to find out sooner than later she's not worth wasting your time on.