Post: #1

I met an effervescent Brazilian 20-something yesterday on the airport train into Paris. She was a hair under 5' tall and dragging a colossal bag stuffed with enough boots and jeans for a 2-month trip.

On the train I suggested we walk the last leg of her journey outside instead of parting ways when transferring to our respective subway lines. I showed her around Paris for a half hour or so, joking around, explaining a bit about Europe to her and built a great rapport. She is just out of a LTR and so am I. She has very bright eyes and overflows with energy (even after a 20 hour series of 3 flights... wild). Seemed like she was into me. If she wasn't I dunno what could possibly indicate more interest (touching me, I guess) I told her I wanted to see her again and she said "I'd like that."

I invited her to my apartment tomorrow morning for breakfast and she's coming, but then I'm leaving town tomorrow and she's leaving before I'm back. So basically it's the one shot (tomorrow night is also a possibility).

I was planning to cook beans and eggs (my signature dish) and toast and salad with nice tea. Other option is pain chocolat from the local boulangerie and coffee.

Then we can walk around Paris, but how can I smoothly transition into hooking up with her ideally right then, or otherwise tomorrow night.

Okay, I know Vicious answered this exact question (and it was me asking) 30 months ago, but I'd love to hear other ideas.

Post: #2

Forget the beans.

Remember, she's Brazilian, not French. A Brazilian guy would of fucked her the moment she bent over to put her bags down. She's more than likely expecting you to step up to the plate tomorrow morning and go for what you want.

If she shows up, then she already knows what's up.

But when dealing with Brazilian culture, don't move slow like guys in France. Go fast and go hard and enjoy the ride because Brazilian women can move that ass like no other.

And if she's not into it, enjoy your breakfast with her, wish her the best , and enjoy the rest of your trip. It's part of the process.

Post: #3

Thanks for the quick response, it's late here. You mean, like make a move before eating ? Show her around the apartment, chat about her day today, and when the moment is right, kiss her and take it from there ? And then go to the boulangerie after...

Mabye it'd be better to eat breakfast separately, flirt with her and then take her back for lunch ? We could eat croissants and walk around and come back, too.

I'd happily sign a contract to sleep with her right when she walk in the door, but I'm not sure she'll go 0-100 so quickly... or will she ?

(12-11-2016 05:23 PM)LINUX Wrote:  Forget the beans.

Remember, she's Brazilian, not French. A Brazilian guy would of fucked her the moment she bent over to put her bags down. She's more than likely expecting you to step up to the plate tomorrow morning and go for what you want.

If she shows up, then she already knows what's up.

But when dealing with Brazilian culture, don't move slow like guys in France. Go fast and go hard and enjoy the ride because Brazilian women can move that ass like no other.

And if she's not into it, enjoy your breakfast with her, wish her the best , and enjoy the rest of your trip. It's part of the process.

Post: #4

Newbie Q: Why not build comfort over the day and then take her back to the apartment and bang? Negative to that approach I can see is that you might end up playing tourist guide and get nothing but blue balls.

You could also have breakfast then bid her adieu and make plans for the evening? Escalation may be easier over drinks...?

Post: #5

(12-11-2016 05:45 PM)Timbuk2 Wrote:  Thanks for the quick response, it's late here. You mean, like make a move before eating ? Show her around the apartment, chat about her day today, and when the moment is right, kiss her and take it from there ? And then go to the boulangerie after...

Mabye it'd be better to eat breakfast separately, flirt with her and then take her back for lunch ? We could eat croissants and walk around and come back, too.

I'd happily sign a contract to sleep with her right when she walk in the door, but I'm not sure she'll go 0-100 so quickly... or will she ?

It doesn't matter Timbuk2. If she walks through that door and your first thought is " Fuck I am going to miss this girl, I really want her rub her hands in my hair." Then lead her to the sofa, lay your head in her lap, guide her hand on your hair, and say "I've been thinking about you and you know, I think I'm going to miss you."

If you want to take a bubble bath with her, then fucking tell her, " I am really happy, I want to take a bubble bath and drink a beer, you should join me." And then act like it's perfectly normal and you've done it a hundreds times. Who doesn't like taking bubble baths and drinking beer? Chicks love doing that.

Enjoy life.

You don't have to play games. You don't need tricks. Just straight up tell a woman what you want and if she likes you, and she is emotionally and physically available, she will happily give it to you.

Post: #6

(12-11-2016 06:15 PM)LINUX Wrote:  

(12-11-2016 05:45 PM)Timbuk2 Wrote:  Thanks for the quick response, it's late here. You mean, like make a move before eating ? Show her around the apartment, chat about her day today, and when the moment is right, kiss her and take it from there ? And then go to the boulangerie after...

Mabye it'd be better to eat breakfast separately, flirt with her and then take her back for lunch ? We could eat croissants and walk around and come back, too.

I'd happily sign a contract to sleep with her right when she walk in the door, but I'm not sure she'll go 0-100 so quickly... or will she ?

It doesn't matter Timbuk2. If she walks through that door and your first thought is " Fuck I am going to miss this girl, I really want her rub her hands in my hair." Then lead her to the sofa, lay your head in her lap, guide her hand on your hair, and say "I've been thinking about you and you know, I think I'm going to miss you."

If you want to take a bubble bath with her, then fucking tell her, " I am really happy, I want to take a bubble bath and drink a beer, you should join me." And then act like it's perfectly normal and you've done it a hundreds times. Who doesn't like taking bubble baths and drinking beer? Chicks love doing that.

Enjoy life.

You don't have to play games. You don't need tricks. Just straight up tell a woman what you want and if she likes you, and she is emotionally and physically available, she will happily give it to you.

She didn't wind up coming over. Jetlagged and with a poor phone connection, she wound up waiting for the friend she was staying with to get out of French class (neither had phone plans...)

Her WhatsApp responses were positive, but infrequent. I'm not in Paris anymore, I'll hit her up again in January.

In any case, thanks for the tips.

Post: #7

Brother you better play this angle some more. Living in Paris, showing tourists around. Shouldn't get any easier than that!

Post: #8

(12-14-2016 09:48 AM)Turnus Wrote:  Brother you better play this angle some more. Living in Paris, showing tourists around. Shouldn't get any easier than that!

I doubt they'd want to sleep with someone just because they're showing them around.

My friend in London tried the couchsurfing route with loads of hot girls, but didn't get any luck. He'd show the girls around, take them too a bar, try to flirt, get rejected, take them back to his place, try to make a move again, get rejected, go to bed alone!

Probably only 'easy' if you are a very handsome mofo!

Post: #9

With girls that are travelling/living or studying abroad you have to get them quick as they want to be seduced as they have no one such as family watching them. The reason to get them quick is that they'll get constant offers to show them around. In hindsight you should have invited her over to the apartment after walking around for half an hour for some food/drink or a bath and beers as Linux said using the 'you've had a long flight/day'. You also said she was high energy despite the flights so this would have been easier to play. By doing this you would have also found out her intentions and not wasted any time.

These girls dream of going to somewhere with romantic connotations like Paris, being seduced by a handsome stranger straight away or in the airport and taken to be fucked the same day. A whirlwind they'd never forget.

Best of luck in January.

Post: #10

(12-14-2016 12:29 PM)subterfuge Wrote:  

(12-14-2016 09:48 AM)Turnus Wrote:  Brother you better play this angle some more. Living in Paris, showing tourists around. Shouldn't get any easier than that!

I doubt they'd want to sleep with someone just because they're showing them around.

My friend in London tried the couchsurfing route with loads of hot girls, but didn't get any luck. He'd show the girls around, take them too a bar, try to flirt, get rejected, take them back to his place, try to make a move again, get rejected, go to bed alone!

Probably only 'easy' if you are a very handsome mofo!

Showing them around while simultaneously being both fun and interesting, yet a bit mysterious will work. I think your London friend may have fallen prey to the fallacy men fall into when he knows a girl will be staying at his place: that simply having her over will magically make her want to fuck you.

You still have to put in the leg work to build her attraction. Your friend probably came off more as a tour guide, which promptly placed him in the friend zone.

Also, by going the couch-surfing route, their relationship was predicated on a business arrangement. He had an uphill battle to climb from the moment he met her. She needed a place to sleep, and fucking around with the dude who lived at the place she needed to sleep could cause serious drama. It would take some solid game to break through those defenses.

By simply sticking to showing them around, though, he has an opportunity to build attraction so long as he doesn't come off as a tour guide, can make her laugh, and saves a local "secret spot" for a nice date later in the evening.