Post: #726

This man is a hell of a lot more patient than I would be. There's no logic involved in this shrew's world view.

Post: #727

IMO we are past the parts of open discourse and rational thinking in this country. Too much feelings, too many selffish ignorant twats not only believing their position is superior but anything else is seen as horrific.

Other points of view outside of the mainstream is just horrible for many.

Just watching the first 30 seconds of the video lays it out and you dont need to go any further. "Veiled threats" are not ok but you can have your opinion otherwise.

What veiled threats does she speak of? You cant be a nationalist in England without hating blacks and other races? You can't be a strong male figure who believes in the family unit without catching hands from feminists?

This is the level of thought police we're dealing with here in England. Automatically you are on the defense by her kind - and there are many, simply by having a position against the status quo. You are a threat to her as far as she is concerned and her only job is to make you out to be the enemy of regular normal folk.

Post: #728

This new podcast is pretty good for a British perspective https://twitter.com/AbsoluteBritain/stat...9105091585

Post: #729

(04-23-2019 11:10 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  IMO we are past the parts of open discourse and rational thinking in this country. Too much feelings, too many selffish ignorant twats not only believing their position is superior but anything else is seen as horrific.

Other points of view outside of the mainstream is just horrible for many.

Just watching the first 30 seconds of the video lays it out and you dont need to go any further. "Veiled threats" are not ok but you can have your opinion otherwise.

What veiled threats does she speak of? You cant be a nationalist in England without hating blacks and other races? You can't be a strong male figure who believes in the family unit without catching hands from feminists?

This is the level of thought police we're dealing with here in England. Automatically you are on the defense by her kind - and there are many, simply by having a position against the status quo. You are a threat to her as far as she is concerned and her only job is to make you out to be the enemy of regular normal folk.

I am out of the UK and I can't contemplate returning back at the moment.

In my mind it's over..

There is no talking to these people.

Its been years and years of aggravated heckling from one side. Its in families, its in friendship groups, workplaces, anywhere you go, these people will not tolerate dissent - even if it has to be teased out of the non-believers first..

There's no point in patience or calmly debating. Doesn't make any difference.

Debate is over.

I agree with Tim Pool after Christchurch: the Culture War is now hot.

There is no wish for treaties or unarmed truces anymore.

May never be a shot fired..

there may be no shooting but war has been declared.

Total breakdown in diplomatic relations.

Thats the position Im in, I'm not advocating violence, but I have given up on any kind of discussion with family, childhood friends, work people, people I knew for decades as friends before Big Tech and the Media's Fuckery got involved.

Fuck it.

Post: #730

Quote:Bristol Antifacists did not respond to a further request for comment, however Bristol Sisterhood - a feminist collective consisting mostly of migrants to the UK who vocally opposed his visit to the city - stated: "Carl Benjamin's policies and hate speech attack our ideology and our integrity. For this reason we consider it necessary to manifest ourselves and try to combat it."

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/brist...el-2790513


I’ll be voting UKIP now.

Post: #731

(04-24-2019 07:32 AM)Bienvenuto Wrote:  In my mind it's over..

Things have gotten so bad in just the last 3-4 years it's like a nightmare. I think there will have to be a total collapse and rebirth.

In terms of the euro elections I;m not voting for Farage, he lives in a boomer bubble. And since it's PR there's no need to vote tactically.

However, the Brexit party might be helpful in the medium term as it could destroy the conservative party. UKIP alone can't do that as too many middle englanders and old labour voters just won't vote for them (yet). UKIP mainly attracts those on the frontline of this great experiment - the poor white working class. They're not telegenic or articulate. And since wages have been stagnant since the 70s, and degrees now mean nothing, the middle classes can't clearly differentiate themselves from the working classes anymore. So they are ultra sensitive to identifying with the white working class and take every opportunity to status signal by shitting on them. UKIP needs to move far right and stay there. Votes will slowly come their way. Probably not quick enough, but we need a party waiting in the wings for when things get so bad that people are willing to stop status signalling. I have no idea how bad this needs to be because it should have happened years ago and it might just be too late now. But there's not ebough time for a new rebranded party.

Also, Radio 4 is now just pure ear cancer.

Post: #732

UKIP is moving far right. Get on the train and stay there.

Post: #733

I don’t trust Farage anymore. I think he’s just being who he is: a boomer cuckservative who will throw the patriotic working class under the bus to gain temporary credit from his enemies.

The Brexit Party won’t destroy the Conservative Party - it is the Tory Party! It is more in tune with the Tory membership than the Tory MPs are.

The Establishment/ liberal cosmopolitan elite fears a movement which represents middle and working class interests (i.e. people who work for a living in the UK and consume British services within the UK and who pay disproportionately high rates of income tax).

UKIP threatened to be this political vehicle but the Thatcherite Tory wing snuffed that out. Farage May soon be boasting that he destroyed the BNP and UKIP but his opponents will still hate him.

Post: #734

I use certain members of the family as a kind of political/social barometer of how palatable UKIP are as a party. None of them had any problem voting UKIP when Farage was leading the charge. Now though? Different story, I'm afraid. What little they've seen of the new lot (Dankula and Akkad) has scared the bejeezus out of them.

Conversely, I like them more than ever. But I'm increasingly aware that I'm moving further and further away from Normie-ville with every passing day.

The Brexit party will steal UKIP votes, but we can live with that. The priority has to be doing as much harm to the Blues and Reds as possible.

Post: #735

We here on this forum know we're a minority, Sargon, Dankula, PJW, all are appealing to minorities. To expect the majority of a voting population to take in hard truths and escape their regular standard programming is asking too much.

That voting population is split into different blocs, most of them hate each other but others will work together to beat the others. Do you believe the increasing demographs of Pakistanis and blacks will vote for Tories and UKIP?

UKIP is a victim of demographs and ignorance. The person warning others about their demise is ignored whilst the same old, same old (Farage & Co) are lauded as the saviours of the nation. They fooled me once or twice but there will not be a third.

Labour has a good chance now and they will push the Overton window along by a good country mile. Whilst I will suffer financially I am prepared to see the end of this rancid swamp here in the UK. Most people dont learn until real pain comes their way.

Post: #736

Tommy Robinson running for MEP. That means Twitter has to let him back on.

I hope he wins.

Post: #737

(04-25-2019 02:53 PM)SeaFM Wrote:  Tommy Robinson running for MEP. That means Twitter has to let him back on.

I believe this is Mr. Turpin's neck of the woods: https://www.votetommy.co.uk/

I understand what people are saying about the softening of Farage, but agree with the sentiments above. Most of the country are cucks and in the dark from a duplicitous censorious press. They can't vote for too much of a hint of nastiness from their comfortable homes. Not unless it's El Jefe Corbyn.

We need a soft wedge, like Farage. He's obviously changed his rhetoric over the last year or two. But he's dragged a lot of Conservative voters, Councillors, MPs and donors in our direction. Gerard Batten can't do that. A quick snapping to a Batten position is not going to happen.

And Farage is the chief architect of this situation we are in now, where the remainer Parliament (who would like nothing more than to vote A50) have been completely cucked by leave voters. There is intense pressure threatening both the fake political parties. A Nick Griffin would not have been able to do this.

On the long term I am confident we will at least see heady decline for the establishment. So I am enjoying the chaos and uncertainty of this era.

At the moment I see it playing out like this:

2019 - Conservatives routed in EU Parliament elections
2019/20 - fake Brexit
2020/21 - financial crash
2022 - Coalition Corbyn government wracked with divides and massively unpopular as it lurches from disaster to disaster; messes up national finances more than the Torries
2027 - hung Parliament
~2030 - financial crash that ends social democratic form of government (which is left wing) and probable disintegration of the EU

In a similar vein, on the topic of Islam, Douglas Murray plays a similar role. He's the only guy I am aware of who is able to give a very deep view of the situation in this country and is still able to get invited on Channel 4 and cosy debates with intellectuals without being called far-right. No doubt some will say he is a cuck. But the majority need to start with someone like him.

Post: #738

Tommy appeals to a lot of people. A lot of people that are fed up with the ruling class.

Crazier things have happened.

I am not really tuned into British politics, but didn’t Farage resign immediately after the Brexit referendum?

I always thought he should have been the one to lead Brexit. But, like I said, I’m not really knowledgeable on the subject.

Post: #739

(04-25-2019 02:53 PM)SeaFM Wrote:  Tommy Robinson running for MEP. That means Twitter has to let him back on.

Why? Who's going to force twitter to do it?

Post: #740

(04-26-2019 03:02 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

(04-25-2019 02:53 PM)SeaFM Wrote:  Tommy Robinson running for MEP. That means Twitter has to let him back on.

Why? Who's going to force twitter to do it?

I know this comes as no news to anyone here, but Twitter's use of the banhammer seems incredibly arbitrary when you look at the people who are still on. Nick Griffin for example is still tweeting merrily away.

I can't even remember the specifics behind Tommy getting axed, but I'd be surprised if Griffin hasn't tweeted anything at least as offensive (to the minds of Twitter HQ). I think David Duke is still on as well?

Back to British Politics, did anyone see John Rhys-Davies (Gimli from LOTR) on Question Time last night?;

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...rexit.html

Quote:Hollywood star John Rhys-Davies shamed MPs last night as he accused them of 'betraying democracy' by failing to deliver Brexit.

In an extraordinary moment on the BBC's Question Time last night the Indiana Jones and Lord of the Rings actor, 74, was given an ovation by the audience - and would later tear into those who oppose Donald Trump's proposed state visit.

I didn't see it. But I'm frankly stunned that that a high-profile actor has the courage to voice anything non-leftist in public like this! Or is it just a case that the left and right no longer exist? That Nationalism/Globalism has replaced it? There seems to be more and more left/right alliances these days.

Post: #741

John Rhys-Davies made similar anti-globo comments during the 9/11 and LOTR era. He observed that the West was facing the same existential crisis as the men of the West of Middle Earth.

Given the audience on Question Time are sock puppets, the standing ovation seems extraordinary.

Post: #742

(04-26-2019 07:47 AM)N°6 Wrote:  John Rhys-Davies made similar anti-globo comments during the 9/11 and LOTR era. He observed that the West was facing the same existential crisis as the men of the West of Middle Earth.

Given the audience on Question Time are sock puppets, the standing ovation seems extraordinary.

I wasn't aware of that. I fucking love John Rhys-Davies now. Even if I do have to google the spelling of his name every time I want to type it.

I also love LOTR again now.

Post: #743

I think Sargon's political career will be short:

Quote:A controversial Ukip candidate for the European elections previously said Jewish people had to "drop the identity politics" because he did not "give a s****" about the Holocaust, it has been revealed.

Oy vey.

Post: #744

(04-26-2019 09:53 AM)ilostabet Wrote:  I think Sargon's political career will be short:

Quote:A controversial Ukip candidate for the European elections previously said Jewish people had to "drop the identity politics" because he did not "give a s****" about the Holocaust, it has been revealed.

Oy vey.

Nope, those statements don't have anymore the same effect as they used to have. Only some left-indoctrinated crybabies will care. Normal and mentally-stable people won't

Post: #745

(04-26-2019 03:02 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

(04-25-2019 02:53 PM)SeaFM Wrote:  Tommy Robinson running for MEP. That means Twitter has to let him back on.

Why? Who's going to force twitter to do it?

I read somewhere that because he’s running for political office, they are not allowed to ban him.

New account is: @TRobinsonMEP

Post: #746

John Rhys-Davis is deep behind enemy lines.

He was the first person who introduced me to the idea of Christian Western civilisation that we now hear quite a lot. This was back in 2013 when he was a guest on The Alex Jones Show:





I recommend watching the latest Question Time.





It as usual has a 4/5 remain panel. And for the first 15-20 minutes you see how the four represented parties are all lock-step on climate change. But as it progresses it gets into Brexit. I've never heard such an angry and vocal audience. It really gives the impression of the system fraying. This has to be one of the greatest QT moments of all time.

Hopefully Labour can make some really stupid decisions in the next few years; and pull some very snaky and duplicitous moves. Labour voters have shown they are prepared to stomach just about anything just so long as The Conservatives are not in power. Despite the fact that if they had any idea what Conservative Party policies are, they would probably find they fit them more than Labour.

For Labour to be hobbled it's going to first require the Conservatives to take a hit, which would probably lead to a weak Labour-led coalition government. At that point there is little reason for them to exist and people will fragment into the other parties. And Labour et. al. will likely get lumped with the coming economic disaster, which will poison their brands.

In the post-fake Brexit GE it would be good if we could get to somewhere like:

LAB: 20
CON: 20
BREX: 20
CUK: 15
LDEM: 15
UKIP: 5
OTHERS: 5

It leaves us in a position similar to Brexit, where they are trapped in their own system and can't really do anything.

What I am thinking about most is the need for a new actually conservative party to emerge in the shadow the The Brexit Party. There are ten parties in Parliament. Nine of them were for remain. There is very little difference between the majority of people in those parties. Brexit has revealed the shadow of the two real parties in this country, which is are a patriotic, socially conservative party and an internationalist, free-for-all liberal party coloured with barely reformed Marxists. It's those who feel rooted in this country vs. those who would like to abolish it. Economic policy doesn't really mean anything anymore.

Anyone in The Conservative Party who may have any conservative opinions is a cuck. By and large they dare not say they hold them, because they know the same 9/10 establishment liberals will jump on their head if they do so.

The Conservative Party has just made it's final signal that it no longer exists in any way with it's new law which makes divorce a no-fault free-for-all.

At it's heart conservatism is the idea that there needs to be an independent civil society that is strengthened by the government, but not of it. That there should be structures in society that aren't controlled by the government, but by the family and by communities. And that without these society will crumble, as it is. But The Conservative Party has made it clear that the promotion of family is a relic of the 19th century that can be done away with in favor of a bland nothingness of meaningless slogans in their attempt to make it appear they stand for something.

One of the big problems we have is that we've had mass liberalism in concert with the erasure of conservatism. Liberals think that if the remove all the structures from society, people will be free from oppression. But the reality is you need strong, conservative foundations of a society to perpetuate itself into the future. This is in particular the family, without which there is no example of anything that can be considered a civilisation. You also end up fracturing society into lots of little groups that can't get on with one another. You particularly see this on the left, where the luvies increasingly eat each other alive, while telling you how tolerant they are. The reality is that without a common structure for people to share, you can't have a society. Societies that become to liberal create the conditions for their own destruction by encouraging people to live as they want. As if there is no consequences to many of the ways they encourage people to behave. Despite the mountain of evidence to the contrary.

Recently I was talking to a guy who considers himself a center guy. He rejected the idea that the media, academia, politics etc. is all skewed heavily left and that there are virtually no conservative voices. And the few that exist face endless attacks, protests and hit jobs. I told him that he has virtually never heard any arguments against his own positions. To which he replied with an incredulous face, "What is conservative anyway?" As if to suggest conservative is too vague a notion to describe. I replied, "You've just made my own argument back to me."

Post: #747

Been a while since I posted on the forum. Twitter, at least for now, have banned Tommy's new twitter account.

Post: #748

@CarlUKIP suspended as well.

Post: #749

(04-26-2019 11:31 AM)gework Wrote:  And Labour et. al. will likely get lumped with the coming economic disaster, which will poison their brands.

If things really worked this way, communism would have gone extinct 10 years after being invented. The brainwashed hordes don't care about "economic disasters".

Post: #750

I do like how all our online e-celebs are getting involved in real-world politics. It's fascinating watching the MSM spin Sargon into some kind of monster. Deliberately taking things WAAAAY out of context to fool normies into thinking he's a massive racist, when in reality he's a completely centrist, harmless family man. Likewise Dankula.

If Tommy Robinson somehow gets elected as an MEP it would be the biggest 'fuck you' to the establishment (and I include the media in that) I've ever witnessed - more than Brexit or Trump. We need 4chan to meme him into office. Put petty differences aside and get behind his (and Sargon's) campaigns.