Post: #1

From what I know: these folks were established after 9/11 and were just tasked with random terrorist stuff at first, kind of like the FBIs little helpers but without any actual weight. But as time has progressed they've exposed themselves more and more in public, sort of like a domestic CIA. Some of their tasks were done by the FBI such as taking down terrorist plots or entrapping people, ICE would kick out illegals, DEA would go after drugs, SS would go after counterfeiters and some political stuff (threats). They're even after normal US Marshall's tasks like capturing fugitives.

All of this just seems rather redundant and confusing. I haven't been able to put a pin on what exactly they're supposed to do other than them dealing with federal crimes and helping out local cops like at sporting events.

I never took them seriously since I never heard of them and made cracked a joke on one DHS officer that left me a voicemail....then the joke was on me when they showed up at my door and told me stuff only I knew about. All I can say is whatever database they run.....is actually quite of a mindfuck and impressive. Also, their cars rolling around the (((Fed))) building and now they're at Metro stations in preparation for the Super Bowl (Go Cowboys!).

They seem to be a federal police force, sort like the "Gendarmerie" in France or the "federales" in Mexico....but I thought the president couldn't create a federal police force and most politicians were against the idea as well. I guess cucks are going to cuck. It's odd but I feel bad for the FBI folks, it's kind of like they're almost out of a job because DHS/HSI folks are doing their tasks.

Post: #2

It will be interesting to see what becomes of it under Trump.

Bigger or smaller?

Post: #3

What you are probably seeing is Federal Protective Service, which is DHS.

Aside from the clusterfuck that is TSA, try dealing with some of the other DHS divisions.

I love the Coast Guard, and would be dead without them, but administratively there is nothing worse. Licensing and fines and whatnot are just a confusing jumble of bullshit. I got a compliance ticket over a lightbulb and had to have a maritime lawyer figure out how to prove I'd changed the bulb.

I also deal with Customs and Border Protection, which is a real joke.

Aloha!

Post: #4

It is a totally redundant agency that came as a knee jerk reaction to 9/11 (one of many).

I hope The Trumpinator In Chief disbands it replaces it with the "Department of Homeland Efficiency" and starts chopping the balls off all the "gubment" waste mongers. Put those $billions to work on real MAGA initiatives

Post: #5

I am going to be starting grad school soon. Those of us in the program have been asked to answer the following question:

What is something significant you believe is working well in homeland security? What evidence can you offer to support that belief? (Anecdotes are not evidence.)

What is something significant in homeland security you think needs to be improved? What evidence can you offer to support your claim? (You might look first for a topic in your part of the homeland security enterprise.)

I have a couple of hundred words written but I am struggling with taking the 10,000' view. I have always been more tactically oriented rather than strategically. I respect the intellectual breadth/depth, educational backgrounds and real world experiences of many of the posters here on the forum so I am interested to hear what the RVF thinks.

Post: #6

What works badly: Transportation security. The TSA fails >80% of all dry runs performed by auditors....and I guarantee you those guys are a lot less savvy than actual terrorists are.

Post: #7

(01-19-2017 10:18 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  It is a totally redundant agency that came as a knee jerk reaction to 9/11 (one of many).

I hope The Trumpinator In Chief disbands it replaces it with the "Department of Homeland Efficiency" and starts chopping the balls off all the "gubment" waste mongers. Put those $billions to work on real MAGA initiatives

It's not redundant or a "knee jerk" reaction, it was a carefully calculated power play to try and bring rogue organizations like the FBI into line. How many times has the FBI tried to play kingmaker? Besides our current disgraces, it turns out the original Deep Throat informant from Watergate was an active FBI agent, giving info to support his own goals. The true answer to the question is "Every chance they get.". And the CIA is at least as bad. As Chuck Schumer famously noted "If you go against the Intelligence agencies, they've got 7 ways from Sunday to get back at you.". That's not a slogan a democracy should be proud of. George Bush Sr had been a CIA Director himself, and knew his son needed some kind of tool to bring them to heel, and that was the birth of the DHS.

Post: #8

(01-19-2017 12:08 AM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  From what I know: these folks were established after 9/11 and were just tasked with random terrorist stuff at first, kind of like the FBIs little helpers but without any actual weight. But as time has progressed they've exposed themselves more and more in public, sort of like a domestic CIA. Some of their tasks were done by the FBI such as taking down terrorist plots or entrapping people, ICE would kick out illegals, DEA would go after drugs, SS would go after counterfeiters and some political stuff (threats). They're even after normal US Marshall's tasks like capturing fugitives.

All of this just seems rather redundant and confusing. I haven't been able to put a pin on what exactly they're supposed to do other than them dealing with federal crimes and helping out local cops like at sporting events.

I never took them seriously since I never heard of them and made cracked a joke on one DHS officer that left me a voicemail....then the joke was on me when they showed up at my door and told me stuff only I knew about. All I can say is whatever database they run.....is actually quite of a mindfuck and impressive. Also, their cars rolling around the (((Fed))) building and now they're at Metro stations in preparation for the Super Bowl (Go Cowboys!).

They seem to be a federal police force, sort like the "Gendarmerie" in France or the "federales" in Mexico....but I thought the president couldn't create a federal police force and most politicians were against the idea as well. I guess cucks are going to cuck. It's odd but I feel bad for the FBI folks, it's kind of like they're almost out of a job because DHS/HSI folks are doing their tasks.

Back in 2014 I had a DHS.Treasury guy and a DHS.FBI guy knock on my door. Apparently they were making rounds going to early Bitcoin people and fishing for drug business folk. I blogged the incident as they were driving back to Peoria Illinois. At the time I was about 30 minutes from St Louis driving or 2 hours from Marion, Illinois driving. For some reason they made an incredibly long drive from Peoria.

At the time I was fairly NEET having emerged from too much time in US universities. So early afternoon, I'm rather profoundly hungover and they are asking me all manner of pointed and general questions in the front yard.

It was a very weird time in my life. They left disappointed as they truth set me free. They didn't get any stories of internet drugs, because I would have had to commit the crime of lying to them to offer any. Instead they got to hear way too much about how the earlier altcoins could be acquired, converted to Bitcoin, and then converted to USD and finally cheap vodka.

The most uncomfortable part was standing around in the front yard during the oppressive mid afternoon August heat, because cops on a fishing expedition are like Vampires. You either have to let them in or they are well beyond the fishing stage of things.

It was a wake up call in several ways. After that I started doing things. Then I started doing things more effectively. Now I live in a free-er country.

Post: #9

(01-19-2017 10:18 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  It is a totally redundant agency that came as a knee jerk reaction to 9/11 (one of many).

Are you sure about that? The Patriot Act is a result of 9/11 and the reason that was passed and still exists is because government never gives up power.

We're not going to see any such entities disbanded until a completely new mindset is installed, probably forcibly, at the top levels.