Post: #1

It's a long story -> I am constantly on my phone most of the time (either checking stocks/commodities or messaging chicks) so this current girl I am dating asked me playfully to show her my phone. She knows that I am not committed to her so there was no real reason to suspect something. I have nothing to hide but I want to gain something out of this situation so I asked her to give me her phone in return. She was 50% horrified and 50% surprised at my request. After a few min, she said "you know what? Let's do it."

[No. She didn't plan this all along. This situation was a surprise for both of us.]

So I gave her my phone and in return she gave hers. After all I went through, I could see that she was disappointed in me (I'm using similar strategies that I used on her to get chicks). The contents of her phone didn't surprise me either.

She had 5 beta orbiters all salivating over her, two of her male friends (she probably fucked them both. Messages were juicy) and her ex who's still sending romantic stuff to get her back. I read her sex chats with some of the beta guys and a lot of other fucked up shit(stuff most of you can imagine). She read my chats which were almost the same with every girl.

In the end, I can say that she was disappointed after reading messages from my phone. I didn't say anything or show any emotional reactions. I just gave a "meh!" kinda smile and gave it back to her. Could see it in her face that she wants me to talk about it. I didn't. As usual, I said 'bye' and went home because I have to work (have to pick up stocks for the next day).

The next day morning she was whining a lot and is looking to pick up a fight with me (so that she can bring it up) but I didn't flinch and soft-nexted her for the rest of the day. That night she just came over all of a sudden and we both had steamy sex (because I ignored her and she wants to make up). After we had a few sessions, she dropped the bombshell: "What happened? I knew I shouldn't have given my phone but why aren't saying something about it?" I said " nah. It was pretty much what I expected." She was confused. Eventually left and kept on messaging me the whole night, which I had to ignore so that I could catch some sleep.

Needless to say, now she really likes me and probably respects me a lot. (I'm being extra careful while having sex. This might all be a trap. Right?)

Question: We all know that women love their smartphones more than themselves but what do you think about the women who completely share their secrets? Yes, Some of the girls I previously dated are kinda cool if I took their phone and messaged a beta. Most of you guys have been in this situation.

What about the girl I'm dating? Any insight? Is she a psychopath or something? Never dated women like her. She's like 100% open about everything now. Or maybe she does really love me and I'm just being paranoid? Also share some of your experiences if you have been in similar situations.

Post: #2

Interesting story. It's like she's deciding to cross lines and give you a red pill just for the thrill of seeing your reaction, and you responded by signaling that you already knew the playbook, which is making her hamster wheel go into more overdrive than had you freaked out. If I were you I would stick around and see where this leads.

Post: #3

monitering thread, this happens to me.

Post: #4

Just a few points.

1. Boundaries. Even when you're married it is important to maintain boundaries of privacy.

2. OpSec. Why the fuck are you maintaining a complete historical log of your texts on your phone at all? If you're tapping out such epic prose in texts that you want to read it again and again, use an archive utility, encrypt it, and delete the originals from your phone.

3. Respect. Your woman needs to know that you have options by your actions and your frame, not from some list of Tinder/Facebook one-offs.

Woman: "Let me see your phone."
You: "Bookshelf is right behind you if you want to read."

Woman: "You can see my phone."
You: "Pass."

Post: #5

Interesting experiment, thanks for sharing.

I don't think there is a long term future now you know whats behind the curtain.

Having room to delude yourself is essential in a relationship.

Post: #6

I think the phone swap was a bad call, OP.

I know it's a tenet of game for guys to assume girls are fucking other guys. But it's one thing to suspect it, and another to know it for a fact. Even in most friends-with-benefits/fuck buddy scenarios there's an unwritten "don't ask, don't tell" policy in place. And for good reason.

Post: #7

You're two sexually and emotionally uncommitted people. There's nothing particularly surprising about the contents of either phone. It doesn't sound like either one of you is really pushing for a relationship, because you're both wanting to keep your options open. I'm not quite sure what the point of this thread is.

Post: #8

Maybe she thinks you're a member of the secret society, where she can get sex and not be judged or be in a relationship.

Post: #9

The point of the thread is that things suddenly went off-script. I don't see that as a "mistake" necessarily. It could lead to the relationship down an unorthodox and intriguing path.

Post: #10

as of now, we're still doing fine. I am not in a relationship with her. We have sex regularly (she's my current girl).

Regarding the situation, it just happened out of the blue. We were just teasing each other and things got really serious all of a sudden. We are still the same, we share stuff with each other.


Regarding texts, no I don't save most of my previous texts. I'm talking about the current set of girls I'm flirting with over the past few days..I'm using the same technique. That's what she read.


Conclusion: Maybe it doesn't really matter and I'm just making a big deal out of that situation.