Post: #1

I'm pretty new to forum, I want to write up my first detailed datasheet about Istanbul, since I'm Italian and I've been working in logistic company for past 5 years. I'm mostly in Italy but on/off, I've spent more than a year in Istanbul recently. I hope you guys find this useful.

General Info:

First of all, Istanbul is well above 20 million people. Make sure you understand that, city itself is much bigger than most European countries. Official registered Istanbul residents are 14 millions. There are people who emigrated to Istanbul from different cities but not actually registered. It's well known fact that it's more than 20 million.

%99 of the people are Muslim. Back in the 1950's, Muslim were %60, Jewish were %10 and Greek/Armenanian/Balkan people were %30 but it all changed right now.

Istanbul is also located both on Europe and Asia. There are 3 bridges that connect Europe to Asia. So, they call it "European Side" and "Asian side." Most of the nightclubs and shops are on European side but mostly big villas and big towers are on Asian side. So, people change continent on daily basis. It takes literally 5 mins to pass the bridge, if there's no traffic. But %99,9 there will be traffic.

One of the worst thing about the city is traffic. If you want to go somewhere with taxi or driving a car around 8 am to 11 am or 4 pm to 8 pm. There are good chances, you'll sit long hours in the car. It's very common to sit in the car 3-4 hours, when you want to drive 15 km distance.


Flight In and Airport:

I would prefer Turkish Airlines, it's the best airlines in the Europe, it won awards being best in past 3-4 years in a row. They are really good. There are 2 Airports. One is Ataturk Airport (Main), some cheap charter flights are also going to Sabiha Gokcen Airport (Asian Side) which is around 50 km away from city center.

If you land in Sabiha Gokcen Airport (Asian Side) around 5 pm. You will most likely to stay in center of Istanbul, which requires you to travel 50 km on peak time, which is impossible. Make sure you know that you will spend another 4-5 hours in the traffic.

If you will land in Sabiha Gokcen airport, make sure you come very late (11 pm or later) so you can go to your hotel easier.

If you come to Ataturk (Main) Airport, do not take the taxi because taxi drivers are not very friendly here. They make a city tour before they take you to destination. Basically just go downstairs, catch the subway. One ride is 1 Euro. It goes all the way to city center and much faster than taxi too.


Politicial Situation:

Why would I write about Political situation, right? Useless. Well, it's not if you are going there for girls.

Around %60 of Turkish people are Secular. They support Westernization. They don't like Arab culture and religion stuff. They want to become EU member and they want to be Americanized. These are usually college graduate people and earn high income. Therefore, they don't do anything Islam require. They drink, they party hard, they don't wear head-scarf, they have sex before marriage etc.

%40 are conservative. They think West is evil. They think that United States, Europe, CIA, MI5, Mossad are always making plans about Turkey. Some of them actually said to me, CIA sent some ships to Aegean Sea and Black Sea to trigger Earth Quake in Turkey. If it rains in Istanbul, they will blame it on United States or Europe.

Unfortunately, conservative Islamist party is ruling the Turkey in past 14 years. They are trying to break Western Turks and trying to make the population more Islamist.

So, if you go to Tinder, you'll see %95 of the profiles will be with girls who are with mini-skirt, tattoo, drinking girls. Why? Because all those girls are from %60 Secular Turks. Almost all of them like United States or Europe. They follow fashion, they listen American music etc. They drink, smoke, basically do everything.

If you go to bars or clubs, you'll meet these type of girls, from secular Turks. Of course, you won't see any conservative girls who are drinking at bars. Therefore, %60 of those Secular Turks hate Arabs and anything that Islam requires.

So, that %60 Secular Turks most likely they will be very racist to Arabs.

Other %40 conservatives Turks will be very suspicious to you if you are European or American. (Chances are very likely for you to meet them unless you go to mosque.)


Girls:

As I explained above, girls are hard but you can get laid. Tourists have very high value, since you're not from their circle. They would like to bang you, knowing that you won't stick around.

But watch out for the race card. %99 of the girls will be from Secular Turks if you hang around at bars or clubs. So they will like Europeans and Americans. Use that to your advantage. Day game is also cool but you have to know where you are doing.

Locations:

If you read any Turkey guide, they'll tell you to go to Sultanahmet, Eminonu, Topkapi. These places are all touristic areas. Turks don't really go there. It's all for tourists. Don't say around that area because that's the oldest part of Istanbul. Around like 5000 years old. Streets are narrow, because of the time they built. Unless you are into history, you have no reason to stay there.

Go where Secular Turks hang out. You want to hang out in these towns,

Besiktas, Levent, Bebek, Istinye, Yenikoy, Etiler, Bagdat Caddesi, Sisli, Kurucesme, Ortakoy.

There will be countless bars, restaurants, nightclubs, cafes in these towns. Most are open 24 hours too. It will be little bit pricey from other towns because that's where high class hang out. %99 are Secular Turks and almost all hot girls are around these towns.

Why would they go to other towns where Islamists live? They got nothing in common. There is a hidden border between towns, where conservative people live and where Secular Turks live.


Money:

Lucky you, American Dollar and Euro are rapidly increasing value against Turkish Lira in past year. So, it will be cheaper for you. Euro and $ have gained %20 against Turkish lira in past 3 months but still, it's not a cheap country.

Almost everywhere do accept credit card but make sure you have little bit cash on you. To tip places or to pay to taxi if you are taking girl back to your place.

Relationships:

Girls find that having relationship with foreign guys are something to be proud of. So, you can easily go to that direction if that's what you want. Some girls will actually tell you, they want a flag. (It happened to me quite few times)

Do not hit on girls when there is a man. Their brothers and boyfriends will be superb protective of the girl. This isn't Sweden or Norway, they will be hostile to you if they suspect that you are hitting on them in front of them. Do not do it.

Overall:

I haven't really picked this country to live but it has one of the biggest port in Europe, so my work sends me here every other 3 months. It's very hard to get laid, if you're Turkish guy for sure but being tourist has some advantages. Since I come here often for work and live here 2 months at a time, I kinda got used to all of the shit in here.

I spent around like 14 months on/of in here in past 5 years. I managed to bang 24 girls, some of them were college girls, some of them were working girls, some of them were some random girls who were also visiting Istanbul.

But I happened to bang two 9's in here. One is a tv host and other one is footballer's wife. [edit]

So far, out of all the 24 girls I banged, I kept 4 of them as a fuck buddy. I usually rotate them whenever I'm in Istanbul but I speak with majority of the girls I bang, either asking for advice anything about Istanbul or other things, after all I'm tourist as well.

Sorry if I forgot something to add but I'll try to answer your questions if you have any.

Post: #2

One thing also worth mentioning I think is secular/middle class Turkish girls are on average also very attractive. I've spent time in Istanbul and Izmir and was pleasantly surprised by this in both.

Anatolia has been quite an ethnic melting pot for the last 1000 years so they have a good bit of genetic diversity going on. The Middle-Eastern/European mixing results in some very good looking girls. You can find girls with unusual combinations of features like very tanned skin and dark hair but light eyes etc. Their look and general attitude reminded me of Lebanese girls but maybe 25% more European looking.

Definitely hard to game though, I wouldn't be recommending the country for anyone looking for one night stands. But if living there I think it'd be a reasonable place to get a girlfriend.

Post: #3

I was in Istanbul two months back - beautiful city and amazing food. With that said - it's all guys walking around. When walking around the city all I really ever saw were men. It felt strange - I kept thinking, "Where are the women?"
If you visit any of the tourist spots (Hagia Sophia, Blue Mosque, etc): anyone who approaches you is trying to run a scam on you. "Oh my friend, if you're trying to enter this building you have to use this entrance. Come, I'll show you. And afterwards lets visit my cousin's shop nearby for some high-pressure sales." So you have to raise your bitch-shields, so to speak.

I can definitely say beyond a shadow of a doubt that Turkish Airlines was the most enjoyable/comfortable airline service I ever experienced. Even in economy, they treat you like a king.

Post: #4

If someone you don't know calls you "my friend", you can be sure they aren't your friend.

The no-women-in-streets phenomenon seems to be the norm in Muslim countries. If they're out on their own wearing something less then full burqua, they likely face harrassment and that greasy Arab learing anyone that's been to Ukraine knows all to well.

Post: #5

(02-09-2017 07:36 AM)markygras Wrote:  I was in Istanbul two months back - beautiful city and amazing food. With that said - it's all guys walking around. When walking around the city all I really ever saw were men. It felt strange - I kept thinking, "Where are the women?"

The lack of women was just in the Old City in my experience. If you're around Taksim square and the modern side of the city around there its much closer to being in a generic Southern European big city. İstiklal Avenue could be in Madrid.

Post: #6

Tons of Turkish girls here in Germany but hard as fuck to get them if you aren't Turkish. I have banged only 1 and had another extremely interested but she lives far. Both of these girls have spent at least 1 year in the US.. So if you meet a Westernized one your chances of sleeping with them skyrocket like any other girl who has spent time in the US.

Easier here if you are a white German but if you are black then fucking forget about it. Maybe I would have better luck in Istanbul. I want to give it a try at some point since one of my best boys here is from there.

Post: #7

Be careful about giving too much information about women you bang that they can easily be identified by the public.

Post: #8

(02-09-2017 07:36 AM)markygras Wrote:  I was in Istanbul two months back - beautiful city and amazing food. With that said - it's all guys walking around. When walking around the city all I really ever saw were men. It felt strange - I kept thinking, "Where are the women?"
If you visit any of the tourist spots (Hagia Sophia, Blue Mosque, etc): anyone who approaches you is trying to run a scam on you. "Oh my friend, if you're trying to enter this building you have to use this entrance. Come, I'll show you. And afterwards lets visit my cousin's shop nearby for some high-pressure sales." So you have to raise your bitch-shields, so to speak.

I can definitely say beyond a shadow of a doubt that Turkish Airlines was the most enjoyable/comfortable airline service I ever experienced. Even in economy, they treat you like a king.

That's a common mistake, if you read Turkey guides or any articles, they will all direct you to Sultanahmet, Eminonu etc. aka Old City. But regular Turkish people have nothing to do in that area nowadays.

That part of the city is older than 3000 years old and people don't live there anymore. There are bunch of boutique hotels, souvenir stores etc. People who are hanging out there are usually people from hotels and souvenir stores who know how to negotiate with the customer, %90 male.

So, there's no reason to go there unless you're into history. There's literally nothing to do there.

If you go to: Bebek, Nisantasi, Levent, Etiler, Yenikoy, Istinye, Bagdat Caddesi areas, you'll see a lot of girls and %99 of the girls in those towns are Westernized people. They dont follow anything about religion as well.

Post: #9

+1 from me Rossi, great contribution.

I am headed to Istanbul in a few months, question about logistics. There are some great airbnb offers in the Beyoglu district, while in Besiktas I am seeing luxury hotels.

Would logistics be tough in Beyoglu? A place I have my eye on is near the (now closed) Chez Bore steakhouse if you need specifics.

Also, would the luxury hotels have guest policies that would cockblock?

Post: #10

^ Beyoglu is one of the oldest town in Istanbul, your suggested location is near by Galatasaray High School where it was built 500 years ago. As you can imagine, streets are very narrow. Sometimes taxi's can't get go through there. As a logistics, it's perfect because it's middle of the city.

Luxury hotels wouldn't have any guest policy that would cockblock. They don't really care, because they simply can't track anything. If you're going to small mini-hotels, where they have 10 rooms, they know who's staying in which room, so they might ask but luxury hotels are too big to track anyone simply because they have over +200 rooms.

Post: #11

Rossi, do you by any chance know LikeaBaller?

If I remember well, he was from Istanbul as well and your and his writing style have so many similarities.

Post: #12

(02-28-2017 06:39 AM)apolis Wrote:  Rossi, do you by any chance know LikeaBaller?

If I remember well, he was from Istanbul as well and your and his writing style have so many similarities.

I'm not from Istanbul, I'm from Firenze but I've been working for logistic company for past several years. Company has biggest offices in Trieste and Istanbul. So, I get to spend 2-3 months in Istanbul per year. I'm not in Istanbul right now for example.

No, I don't know who he is. Do you have any link?

Post: #13

So guys after traveling through peru, colombia, ukraine and get laid in all of those countries, i visited a friend who is studying there. I m from germany and normally as a brunette blue eye guy, i do not score on girls from iran, turkey or afghanistan in germany, since they prefer their monkey men. But in Istanbul the girls on Tinder and in the "erasmus student parties" they were actively searching for german/european cock, me and my friend got laid on the first night out (ONS Clubgame) and unfortunately there was exam week when i was there, still managed to meet 2 girls and within 1-2 hours i was making out with them. the next day one of them picked me up with a convertible car and we went to the black sea. all this happened in 5 days. i will go there again in the end of june and fuck them, since i had to leave and met them on the day before i had to leave.
My friend who is studying he is fucking many turkish girls on the first date on tinder and they are 30-50 % are pretty direct in saying that they want to get fucked. It is much better than ukraine.

Post: #14

(05-23-2017 02:14 PM)wolfer Wrote:  I m from germany and normally as a brunette blue eye guy, i do not score on girls from iran, turkey or afghanistan in germany, since they prefer their monkey men.

I have the exact same feeling trying to talk to them in Germany. I don't understand it for the life of me. Its a shame because I think Turkish girls can be really good looking too.

Post: #15

(05-23-2017 05:13 PM)kirdiesel Wrote:  I have the exact same feeling trying to talk to them in Germany. I don't understand it for the life of me. Its a shame because I think Turkish girls can be really good looking too.

The Turkish girls in Germany are way different than girls in Istanbul. It's almost two different country.

They got nothing in common.

Post: #16

I have been in Istanbul for a week now, and still haven't fucked, I have well over 100 matches from other cities( gothenburg, Zagreb) put together (matches I haven't even made contact with yet).. but in Istanbul, it's a different ball game, I hardly get matches, my tinder photos are quite good, they just don't swipe right.

About me; 6ft, black british guy, brown skin, nice straight white teeth, nice physique, 26.

Even In the uk where there is tough competition, I get probably 1 match in every 3-5 swipes (not consistently I must add). I am staying at Hilton hotel near atarturk airport, I have matched with 6 girls in the first 3 days, it's pathetic. A Persian girl and a Turkish girl who lives in Yalova are the ones I am really keen on, they are keen to meet up but the distance is some sort of cockblock. And I am not traveling that long for skirt in a country I don't know. I even lowered my standard and went for a fat one and she told me she just wants to make friends, I wouldn't give her a second look in the uk or Sweden.

My overall verdict is that; the country isn't the friendliest I have been to as a black man, nothing is free here, needed an adapter to charge my phone and I got charged 5 pounds by my hotel receptionist for an adapter that probably cost 1 pounds in the uk (not Hilton hotel)

Hotel is cheap, food isn't that pricey either.

Although I haven't put my gaming here on full throttle, but I have swiped right quite a lot. Didn't come here to bang girls, but I thought I might as well add that to the trip, haven't been successful so far, unless I want to lower my standard and got for a 3-4/10, nah bruh.

I cant wait to go home, then plan my next trip.

If you are black, don't come here hoping to bang, no sir! I cant speak for he white guys, It might be different or the same. But it isn't worth it.

I should point point out that I didn't try any of the tourist resorts, didn't have enough time. But it hasn't been a good vibe in Istanbul so far, the closest action I got was my friends friends telling me she likes my hair and skin, touching my hair and my arm, but she is more like a 4/5 at most.

I wouldn't advice coming here for fun, go to sweden, Croatia, Finland. Surely not here.

Post: #17

So you didn't try to day game or even go out at night?

Don't you think your judgement is still a little premature since it's bases off of tinder and that's it? Also, you're going to a Muslim country so comparing it a Christian country is totally off.

Post: #18

(06-03-2017 06:34 AM)Adventurer986 Wrote:  I have been in Istanbul for a week now, and still haven't fucked, I have well over 100 matches from other cities( gothenburg, Zagreb) put together (matches I haven't even made contact with yet).. but in Istanbul, it's a different ball game, I hardly get matches, my tinder photos are quite good, they just don't swipe right.

About me; 6ft, black british guy, brown skin, nice straight white teeth, nice physique, 26.

Even In the uk where there is tough competition, I get probably 1 match in every 3-5 swipes (not consistently I must add). I am staying at Hilton hotel near atarturk airport, I have matched with 6 girls in the first 3 days, it's pathetic. A Persian girl and a Turkish girl who lives in Yalova are the ones I am really keen on, they are keen to meet up but the distance is some sort of cockblock. And I am not traveling that long for skirt in a country I don't know. I even lowered my standard and went for a fat one and she told me she just wants to make friends, I wouldn't give her a second look in the uk or Sweden.

My overall verdict is that; the country isn't the friendliest I have been to as a black man, nothing is free here, needed an adapter to charge my phone and I got charged 5 pounds by my hotel receptionist for an adapter that probably cost 1 pounds in the uk (not Hilton hotel)

Hotel is cheap, food isn't that pricey either.

Although I haven't put my gaming here on full throttle, but I have swiped right quite a lot. Didn't come here to bang girls, but I thought I might as well add that to the trip, haven't been successful so far, unless I want to lower my standard and got for a 3-4/10, nah bruh.

I cant wait to go home, then plan my next trip.

If you are black, don't come here hoping to bang, no sir! I cant speak for he white guys, It might be different or the same. But it isn't worth it.

I should point point out that I didn't try any of the tourist resorts, didn't have enough time. But it hasn't been a good vibe in Istanbul so far, the closest action I got was my friends friends telling me she likes my hair and skin, touching my hair and my arm, but she is more like a 4/5 at most.

I wouldn't advice coming here for fun, go to sweden, Croatia, Finland. Surely not here.

Good info so far but you can't judge a country/city solely based on Tinder man. I do way better offline than I do online (im black as well)

It sounds like you have a heavy reliance on Tinder.

Post: #19

There's no racism towards black people in Turkey. They actually like them, since they had almost 0 black person up until 1990's. My friend came to hang out with me from LA and she told all the girls that he's football player and negotiating with few clubs, he got few bangs in 2 weeks.

Post: #20

This is from a modeling show, but these are some of the common looks you'd find in many middle-class districts around Turkey.




Street interview asking whether women prefer macho or romantic men. This is a cool channel to check out, but most videos won't have subtitles.

Post: #21

I am thinking about taking my blonde Russian girlfriend to istanbul for a holiday break later on in the year. Is this recommended. I understand that Istanbul is not Afghanistan, but I picture now swarms of IRT type of guys offering her marriage and giving her free shit. I rather not.

Post: #22

Great datasheet Rossi (+1). My experiences there confirm that the women are beautiful and stoked to meet foreign men. Nightgame is not a good way to go though because most of the venues will be 80% men. I agree, stay in Taksim area but don't miss the sights of the old city. The Hagia Sophia and the underground Roman reservoir along with Machu Pichu are the most amazing man made things I have visited anywhere.

Post: #23

Passed through Istanbul airport recently and was stunned.

There's serious talent here, some of these girls have super exotic features.

Will have to do a proper visit at some point.

Post: #24

Booked a flight here for March - April but also gonna see Izmir, Bodrum and Fethiye, off season but still have a good Turkish wing with upper class social connections. Not really a game trip but Istanbul looks promising and Turkish girls are some or my favourite looking, will defo check back on this sheet before departure.