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I've been seeing these 2 girls for the past month who both are foreigners in the US from the same country. I get a call the other day from both of them trying to do a caught ya! type scenario with me but I held frame. Apparently they met at a party that is thrown by an organization of people from their country(a scandinavian country). I don't know how I came up in their conversation but they talked to each other found out that they've both been dating me.

One girl was a 7 and really conservative (goes to church, didn't bang till 4th date) the other one not so much. She's an 8 and I rawdoged and came inside on 2nd date (she's on BC). I've been hooking up with both girls at least once a week for the past month.

The conservative one was very upset and heartbroken and doesn't want to see me anymore. The other one said that she really liked me but should've trusted her gut with me and then goes on to say that she's ben having sex with other dudes (maybe true but i think she said it just to try and piss me off). I said "if you're seeing other guys then why are you mad?" to which after she changed her argument saying that she was just weirded out because I never used a condom (which is why I don't think it's true). She is also an ice queen and hardly ever shows emotion which is why I think I hurt her and she's trying to get even with me.

I tried to recover it with the second girl by asking if she "still wanted to hangout and if not then it's totally cool" to which she said "I'm not having sex with you" (which further solidifies me thinking she was lying about the other guys because why would she care if I was seeing other girls then?)

Anyway I deleted both numbers and am starting fresh. Has this type of scenario ever happened to anyone else? Any advice/guidance would be appreciated.
02-19-2017 05:18 PM
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JE-RRY!

JE-RRY!

JE-RRY!
02-19-2017 07:35 PM
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Tell em that high school called and it wants its drama back.

Time to start fresh.

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You fucked up by not being straightforward with them. Women are surprisingly responsive when you're not trying to hide things from them.

Don't do it again.

If you're not fucking her, someone else is.
02-19-2017 11:23 PM
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If a harem consists of two girls then I must own a whore house.

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02-20-2017 12:27 AM
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(02-20-2017 12:27 AM)Oz. Wrote:  If a harem consists of two girls then I must own a whore house.

Was expecting to read about a real harem lol.
02-20-2017 07:40 AM
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(02-20-2017 07:40 AM)brick tamland Wrote:  
(02-20-2017 12:27 AM)Oz. Wrote:  If a harem consists of two girls then I must own a whore house.

Was expecting to read about a real harem lol.

Laugh Yeah, it's one of those harems where you have to keep them at opposite ends of your tent-camp and hope they don't catch on to the fact that there's another woman in the vicinity.
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Friday night I had a girl over that I had banged the night before. I was pretty drunk and while she was there I was texting other girls and trying to line up plans for a few days later with them. She didn't say anything that night and I banged her again and she left. The next day she texted me and was all upset and told me she saw me texting these other girls and even read what I wrote. I simply replied to her "You think too much. I think you're cool. Come over tonight at 8pm".....Guess what, she come over and not one more word was said about it. I think it's because I simply held frame and didn't try and lie about anything.
02-20-2017 08:42 AM
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great truths on this thread. Women are not like men at all. As long as a guy is straight forward about it, girls get this idea in their head that they need to "win" when their guy is banging other girls. They become competitive and crazy. High risk of drama but they don't leave.

Men on the other hand, they either turn into cucks, bail or put the girl on the late night "come over" slut roster.

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02-20-2017 08:58 AM
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Was there no chance of a threesome?

It sounds like both girls hit it off with each other when they met, which means they could have talked about girly things with each other when you were finished with them.

Opportunity missed?

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02-20-2017 09:00 AM
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"Harem Collapse" is the best term of art I've ever seen on this forum. Reminds me of Colony Collapse among bees.

It sounds like these two women didn't understand the deal and thought they had an exclusive claim. That one of them thought she needed to "trust her gut" tells me you didn't manage expectations.

I think I've been in an LTR too long to offer useful advice, but in the past it was never a problem to wake up with a woman and go to breakfast, have a second lunch date, and then dinner at my place and she stays over with all three of them knowing not to ask too many questions. The morning one had even done the math and wished me luck with the rest of my Saturday on her way out the door.

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02-20-2017 09:08 AM
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So losing 2 girls is harem collapse?
02-20-2017 09:33 AM
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It's not a harem if you're that worried about losing them.

Also, doesn't seem like 2 is a harem. A harem has to be at least a few, not a couple.

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All the great harems of history were guarded by clever and efficient eunuchs. I'm sure that this was what was missing in your case. Beta orbiters just don't cut it.

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While I've never had a harem, I'd like to think 3 is the minimum for one.
02-20-2017 10:17 AM
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Sun Yaoting, the last eunuch of imperial China died as recently as 1996. A fascinating story:

http://www.nytimes.com/1996/12/20/world/...unuch.html

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Like the thousands who preceded him through Chinese history, Mr. Sun was emasculated as a young boy, in a crude and risky operation that was arranged by his family, who were looking for a way out of poverty and into the private domain of China's highest rulers.

Aside from the emperor, eunuchs were generally the only men trusted to enter the inner courtyards of the palace, where the women of the imperial family and harem lived. Other men, including officials, military guards and even the emperor's male relatives, were often required to leave the palace grounds at night.

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02-20-2017 10:30 AM
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The smartest harem commentators in the 1970's warned us about Peak Harem, but we didn't listen.

You can only drill holes for so long before the supply gives out, and you have to start tapping harder to reach sources with a much lower return on investment, hence the recent foray into shale sluts and Canadian Bar Sands, all of which is not sustainable in the long run because it is kept going by a Ponzi scheme of moral and psychic debt rather than any real gains.

When the slut bubble bursts, the only thing left is harem collapse.

You are only surprised because you didn't listen, and kept riding the bubble through wishful thinking.

Good thread title though. Made me laugh.

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02-20-2017 11:33 AM
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Two girls isn't a harem - next. Renew your plates

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(02-20-2017 11:33 AM)debeguiled Wrote:  The smartest harem commentators in the 1970's warned us about Peak Harem, but we didn't listen.

You can only drill holes for so long before the supply gives out, and you have to start tapping harder to reach sources with a much lower return on investment, hence the recent foray into shale sluts and Canadian Bar Sands, all of which is not sustainable in the long run because it is kept going by a Ponzi scheme of moral and psychic debt rather than any real gains.

When the slut bubble bursts, the only thing left is harem collapse.

You are only surprised because you didn't listen, and kept riding the bubble through wishful thinking.

Good thread title though. Made me laugh.

As a finance professional, I very much liked this.

Now you have me thinking about how to apply Buffett-isms to Game.
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(02-20-2017 12:05 PM)MaceTyrell Wrote:  As a finance professional, I very much liked this.

Now you have me thinking about how to apply Buffett-isms to Game.

That I would like to hear.

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(02-20-2017 12:27 AM)Oz. Wrote:  If a harem consists of two girls then I must own a whore house.

Lol dude I work 80+ hours a week. 2 girls is about what I can handle right now. I don't know how guys have 3-5 girls on rotation and still have time for work, social life, etc...

Absolutely no way would a 3some have happened. The one girl was very conservative and would've never gone for it. And yea I got Harem Collapse from colony collapse disorder I thought it'd be funny.

The slutier girl seems a bit butt hurt. She snapped me a pic of a building that's on a hike we went on one time with the caption "same hike, different guy". I must own some real estate in her head for her to kep trying to make me feel jealous; anyway I blocked her after that and have gone completely silent on both girls.
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(02-20-2017 06:05 PM)Mr. Bigglesworth Wrote:  The slutier girl seems a bit butt hurt. She snapped me a pic of a building that's on a hike we went on one time with the caption "same hike, different guy".

Send her a picture of a girl giving you a blow job. "Same cock, different girl"
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(02-20-2017 10:42 PM)Turnus Wrote:  
(02-20-2017 06:05 PM)Mr. Bigglesworth Wrote:  The slutier girl seems a bit butt hurt. She snapped me a pic of a building that's on a hike we went on one time with the caption "same hike, different guy".

Send her a picture of a girl giving you a blow job. "Same cock, different girl"

Hahaha! I just blocked her ass. She's not even worth the time for that even though it would be awesome.

I like just 100% ghosting on girls anyway. It gets their hamster going and they always assume the worst for why you're ignoring them.
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