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Harami Self Improvement Thread
As instructed by Cobra

This thread will deal with my fitness, style and game improvement.
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You misspelled Harambe.

No need to thank me. You still have time to change it.
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Approach Details

1) I walk up to her and ask a question.
2) After her answer, I make a comment related to the answer.
3) Then I take a guess about her. And follow up with more questions/ comments.
4) Now I ask her name and it becomes obvious why I'm talking to her.
5) Depending on her response, I choose between negging or more personal questions.
6) In the end, I ask her if she has a boyfriend And I ask for her number.
[ This is going to change, I'm going to straight up hand them my phone. ]
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Tomorrow I'm going to post pictures of how I dress. (Yes, I'll block out the face)
On Sunday, I'll post my work out plan.
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Looking forward to it Harami!

So far, so good.

Just a fair warning: lots of guys will be busting your balls here but it won't be out of hate but rather sincere desire to see you succeed. So don't worry about that too much. If I see someone being hateful, I'll be sure to deal with them.

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(03-10-2017 06:59 AM)Harami Wrote:  Approach Details

1) I walk up to her and ask a question.
2) After her answer, I make a comment related to the answer.
3) Then I take a guess about her. And follow up with more questions/ comments.
4) Now I ask her name and it becomes obvious why I'm talking to her.
5) Depending on her response, I choose between negging or more personal questions.
6) In the end, I ask her if she has a boyfriend And I ask for her number.
[ This is going to change, I'm going to straight up hand them my phone. ]

I'd stick with the basics to start. With girls in coffee shops or on the street I can say that if she's at all interested they've never failed to at least get me in the door.

How to pick up girls in a coffee shop

Approach -> Elderly chat -> "big bait" -> personal questions/cold read -> ask for her number, or try to see if she'd like to go somewhere else with you right then and there, if you're feeling particularly brave.

With experience one can probably do better by changing up the script - already having some notches under you belt helps a lot with nervousness and engenders the 'don't give a fuck' attitude a lot of girls are impressed by. I think at least to start though by sticking with the script you can hardly do better, but you can certainly do a lot worse by "winging it."

Also don't ever ask questions about her "relationship status", i.e. if she has a boyfriend or not. A good (or at least non-stupid) car salesman is not going to ask all sorts of questions about your current vehicle and be like "Ah, oh, you already have a car? Oh okay you don't need this one." If she's still engaging with you after X number of minutes and it hasn't come up what is she doing. why not. Why is she still here on the lot? Because she's looking to buy would be my assumption.

If she does believe me it'll come up sooner or later and you can deal with it at that point. If she's going to blow you out let her do the work - don't help her do it!

I also think negging is some old 1990s PUA shit that's not particularly effective unless done exactly right,if it ever was, and most guys who don't have a lot of experience in engaging with women socially don't have the savvy to pull it off well, they just come off like when feminists do it to men and end up saying retarded shit like "You know, I just don't know if you're cute enough for me to be talking with."

Maybe it works different in Europe, or on younger girls. Older girls in the US take offense at the tiniest things and just use it as an excuse to ghost your ass, so it's kind of playing with fire. YMMV.

I think a lot of guys get discouraged in their interactions with women initially because, well...they're coming off as corny 1990s-style PUAs. Unfortunately I don't know any magic to avoid that but practice. So just don't get discouraged. Blush
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Step One: Create and wear a t-shirt or hat that says "Pussies Out For Harami".
Step Two: Profit.





But in all seriousness, public trolling has its perks. When you purposefully do something to cause others to make fun of you, and you take it well, it strengthens you. Passing shit tests is no different.
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How you dress doesn't work. I know what you're trying to go for though.

The suit jacket needs to be more fitted. I also assume your pants are very loose. They need to be more fitting as well.

As far as the sweater, also too big on you and the sweater shirt combination is not good. Reason: You look too much like other guys. Try to wear solid but bright colors. I'll show you some examples later.

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It's just uniform, tailor took measures himself and still screwed up.
Yeah, I admit the pants are loose. But I can't get them altered, I'll have to buy new ones. I don't find any readymade pants that fit me, I always have to get them fixed.
Winters almost over so I'm hesitant to invest in sweaters or jackets.
I don't want to look like other guys myself so I'm waiting curiously for your examples. I'm willing to experiment.
Could I pull this off?
http://www.justjared.com/photo-gallery/3...r-gala-01/

I'm tempted to get a silver watch as well.
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(03-11-2017 07:21 AM)Harami Wrote:  How I Dress
http://m.imgur.com/I17tIjP
http://m.imgur.com/VhuGihB

I'd go for more formal footwear - perhaps a pair of chukka boots.
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Those shoes have to go. You might as well be wearing a fanny pack. There's a reason we have the expression "well-heeled man".
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I'll throw them out right away.
Also, I went to a store and tried on some skinny jeans, they just feel weird. Huh
I'm buying a pair tomorrow.
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Nah, they're great for weekends when you're wearing shorts. Just get something that looks a little more grown up for everyday wear.

I have two pairs of leather dress shoes that I spent too much money on. Both get me compliments EVERY TIME I wear them. For some reason I can't explain, others are impressed (or not) by fine footwear.
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Can you show some examples?
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Also: regarding your attire, don't put all of your eggs in that basket, so to speak. Do what you can to look sharp, but don't spend much time thinking about it. If you're too concerned about how others perceive you, you'll be vulnerable to criticism, which will make you start thinking you're a loser, which will then become a self-fulfilling prophecy.

The clothes and shoes, tweakable as they are, are less important than how you wear them. You could be barefoot in a prison uniform, and so long as you project a vibe of "this is how I like to dress, bitches", you'll be attractive.
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You read minds.
Today, I couldn't help but think of a friend I had, who used to try so hard with clothes, hairstyles, you name it. But the personality was never complementary.
An upsetting thought because people used to mistake us for brothers.
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Huh
Gym closed, shop closed.
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(03-12-2017 09:05 AM)Harami Wrote:  Huh
Gym closed, shop closed.

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(03-12-2017 09:05 AM)Harami Wrote:  Huh
Can you show some examples?

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From your picture I can say you have light brown skin. Make sure the color of your clothes compliments your skin tone.

Burgundy looks especially good on brown skin.

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I agree with brokinetic's post. To show you how a jacket should look unbuttoned on a skinnier dude, I also wanted to show you this. Having the sleeves up is not necessary but stylish only in the case of this specific type of jacket.
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Overall, this is very important. The issue is that you may not have access to retailers like Express so you can buy ready made. However, you're in luck. Since tailors are cheap in India, you can show them one of these pictures and they can adjust.

That said, this is IMPORTANT: don't let them screw it up. Try it on and if it doesn't look like the picture, tell him he messed it up and ask him to fix it.

As a next step, why don't you do that with one suit jacket and post a picture when done. Then you can use that suit jacket as an example to provide the tailor to make it easier on the subsequent ones.

If you were actively lifting, I would have said to leave some room but don't worry about that right now.

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I HAVE to wear that jacket on Wednesday.
I have a problem with the next step you suggested. It's just too formal for me. I want to go without jackets. It's almost summer. Blush
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I'm Thinking about doing this (see video). Though chances of negative response are too high so that's what's stopping me. It's not really schoolboy crap because, that guy doesn't look like 15 yo at all to me. And I also think it's staged. I won't do it like a prank. I hate them too.
I'll have try this somewhere nobody knows me and never go back there again. Maybe the other side of the city. When I saw the Indian version though, I cringed so hard.
I embedded the video but then changed my mind.
https://youtu.be/IB6QdArKc8Y
Yes, go ahead or No, get your head outta your arse?
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(03-13-2017 05:58 AM)Harami Wrote:  I'm Thinking about doing this (see video). Though chances of negative response are too high so that's what's stopping me. It's not really schoolboy crap because, that guy doesn't look like 15 yo at all to me. And I also think it's staged. I won't do it like a prank. I hate them too.
I'll have try this somewhere nobody knows me and never go back there again. Maybe the other side of the city. When I saw the Indian version though, I cringed so hard.
I embedded the video but then changed my mind.
https://youtu.be/IB6QdArKc8Y
Yes, go ahead or No, get your head outta your arse?

I will be honest, I have never done it before and as you said, it's staged. I think you want to do it to help you to reduce approach anxiety(correct me if I am wrong)

On a personal level, I did go all the way out and asked a few random girl directly 'Will you come back home with me' which we call an apocalypse opener. This too does not get you anywhere for the obvious reasons. However, the girl was cool about it and never made a mess of it. It reduced my fear of approaching girls at an alarming rate.

IMO
This kissing thing you are planning to do will most probably not work. You might get a harsh scolding, even weird stares(as it's India) or the least a good laugh from the girls.If you come through it and take it positively then it will be an eye opener and will most probably help you in your game later on. But if the girl end up making a big mess of it then you gonna have a big stick up in your ass.

So Conclusion: Don't do it even for fun, there are lots of other things you can do to work on your game.

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Agree with brokinetic. The video and method seem like a great shortcut but truth is there are no shortcuts.

You need to focus on a few things. Fitness, dress and a few approaches seem to be good starting points.

If you take your eye off that ball and focus on too many of these bullshit PUA videos, your progress will slow and you will give yourself more anxiety in the long run. So I personally don't recommend it to people with inner game challenges they need to get over.

There are a lot of spam approachers who have approached a 1000 plus women but don't focus on much else so their ratios don't improve.

I personally focused less on approaches and women and more on self improvement. The latter can't be taken away from me. The former (women) come and go every day and the better you are as a man, the more new ones you will have in your life.

I hope this makes sense.

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