Cop had the right idea, but it was the wrong time, wrong place, wrong situation and in addition to being a criminal act.

What he should have done:

Start a "fight a cop" boxing club. Have ghetto kids and cops train together and then fight each other in the ring. Might change some lives for the better...on both sides.

(04-13-2017 11:22 PM)Fortis Wrote:  The cop was being a moron. How old is he? 30+? That is a 19-year-old.

If a 19-year-old hoodlum can get into your head so hard that you're begging for him to fight you, you're no man in my book; you're a bully with a badge.

Ask yourselves, would you let a 19-year-old kid get in your head like that? That's beyond beta. Arrest his dumbass and get on with your life.

Kid's excuse: i'm 19.

Cop's excuse: derp! I don't have a job anymore.

This shit has been happening forever, though.

I once called in a shooting in my neighborhood (I even saw one of the victims drive off) and the cops came at me like I had something to do with it: "NO BULLSHIT! TELL ME WHO DID IT, Fortis!"

I didn't escalate or anything, but why the fuck would I call in a shooting with my home telephone number if I wanted to avoid getting caught?

Give me a fucking break.

They whine endlessly about how we (blacks) don't help clean up our own community but when we do the right thing and call it in we get salt thrown at us like we may have been responsible. Ha.

Cops antagonize the community and get it back. Shit didn't just start happening out of nowhere. I could rattle on endlessly about the dumb shit Newark cops do.

I have no sympathy for that troglodyte with a badge. Throw his ass in jail. While I don't think you should antagonize a cop, is there even any law on the books says I can't tell a cop to go fuck himself?

I know the unwritten rules state I'd get my skull cracked but I'm just curious.

Not in my state. What would happen however is that a (smarter) officer would walk away, interview the girl, ask if you had put hands on her any time in the 5 years, ever damaged her property etc. etc till he gets an arrestable offense, then come back and royally screw your life up. It's called "The Asshole Tax". Sometimes in costs you. In this case it might cost both of them.

The guys partner is an idiot too, every man has weakness, part of your job is to keep your partner out of trouble. If you know someone is getting to him, physically stand between them, do something to end the confrontation, tell him another officer is in trouble and you have to go help immediately., whatever it takes to defuse the situation.

(04-13-2017 11:39 PM)Suits Wrote:  Cop had the right idea, but it was the wrong time, wrong place, wrong situation and in addition to being a criminal act.

What he should have done:

Start a "fight a cop" boxing club. Have ghetto kids and cops train together and then fight each other in the ring. Might change some lives for the better...on both sides.

It turned Mike Tyson's life around. And Muhammed Ali's.

(04-14-2017 12:11 AM)DarkTriad Wrote:  Not in my state. What would happen however is that a (smarter) officer would walk away, interview the girl, ask if you had put hands on her any time in the 5 years, ever damaged her property etc. etc till he gets an arrestable offense, then come back and royally screw your life up. It's called "The Asshole Tax". Sometimes in costs you. In this case it might cost both of them.

The guys partner is an idiot too, every man has weakness, part of your job is to keep your partner out of trouble. If you know someone is getting to him, physically stand between them, do something to end the confrontation, tell him another officer is in trouble and you have to go help immediately., whatever it takes to defuse the situation.

I agree. The cop was escalating the trouble. All he had to say to that kid was, "The world is round. What goes around comes around. I'll be seeing you soon enough."

And then next week when that shithead is smoking weed in the park, take his ass in. Then the week after and the week after. That cop is an idiot on so many levels.

Just as an aside, is there any reason everyone (including myself initially) is referring to black guy as a kid?

He's 6'27" and 19 years old. Last time I checked, that makes him an adult.

(04-14-2017 12:42 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Just as an aside, is there any reason everyone (including myself initially) is referring to black guy as a kid?

He's 6'27" and 19 years old. Last time I checked, that makes him an adult.

6'27" is tall as fuck.

When you're my age, anyone under 30 is a kid. The cop is a kid, too, but he has the title of cop, so I differentiated between the two by calling one a cop and one a kid.

Would it had made it better if I'd called the black kid "boy"? I'm thinking not.

(04-14-2017 12:42 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Just as an aside, is there any reason everyone (including myself initially) is referring to black guy as a kid?

His immaturity and childish attitude?

Just a personal gripe. I get tired of the old-media trotting out the term "youths" when describing people who are in fact fully legally accountable for their actions.

With that attitude he was going to lose his job or end up dead eventually. You can get away with it in the clusterfuck of war...But with a body camera on your chest documenting everything?

I referred to the kid in question as a kid because he's clearly childish and acting dumb. Goading cops is a huge mistake and something that way too many young dudes think is ok. Like i said, he shouldn't have been fucking with that cop, but that cop acted just as immature.

Jeez, first of all it was hard to follow the bystanders' description of the incident when the LEO's arrived. But around 2:13, holy sh*t the youngster sets it all of mouthing off about 'wanting badge numbers'. Officer doesn't take too kindly to that and that's when the trouble starts.
He's lucky he didn't get shot 11 times (or whatever the usual number of shots is these days).

4:13
Officer: 'What you done for this damn 'Merica".

5:25
Skinny dude: "Go back to Mexico..."
Officer: 'I'm not from Mexico..."

There's about two minutes of relative calm, with the skinny dude quiet. Then he starts talking about how he got pushed (Re-escalation).

8:08 - Officer is still relatively in control. He asks them to 'come get your brother (skinny dude) please'.

11:51
Other officer- "i'm not involved with that..." lol

12:49
Skinny dude to other officer: "Why didn't you let me slam that bitch"

(04-14-2017 12:16 AM)DarkTriad Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 11:39 PM)Suits Wrote:  Cop had the right idea, but it was the wrong time, wrong place, wrong situation and in addition to being a criminal act.

What he should have done:

Start a "fight a cop" boxing club. Have ghetto kids and cops train together and then fight each other in the ring. Might change some lives for the better...on both sides.

It turned Mike Tyson's life around. And Muhammed Ali's.

Indeed. A lot of police stations ran boxing clubs, historically, both in the UK and US. It doesn't really happen much anymore, since on average the police are relatively emasculated, fat, and the gulf between them and the communities they serve has become a yawning chasm.

It's a great shame. The relationships these places built between the police and their beats were a significant part of the policing effort, allowing officers much more discretion in how they handled the high jinks and minor criminality of poor, bored, young guys in the areas they policed.

(04-14-2017 06:23 AM)H1N1 Wrote:  

(04-14-2017 12:16 AM)DarkTriad Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 11:39 PM)Suits Wrote:  Cop had the right idea, but it was the wrong time, wrong place, wrong situation and in addition to being a criminal act.

What he should have done:

Start a "fight a cop" boxing club. Have ghetto kids and cops train together and then fight each other in the ring. Might change some lives for the better...on both sides.

It turned Mike Tyson's life around. And Muhammed Ali's.

Indeed. A lot of police stations ran boxing clubs, historically, both in the UK and US. It doesn't really happen much anymore, since on average the police are relatively emasculated, fat, and the gulf between them and the communities they serve has become a yawning chasm.

It's a great shame. The relationships these places built between the police and their beats were a significant part of the policing effort, allowing officers much more discretion in how they handled the high jinks and minor criminality of poor, bored, young guys in the areas they policed.

This is by design of the globalist sheisters. They don't want the "friendly neighborhood cop" kind of relationship. To be fair - in such areas it is tough and once again it proves that diversity is not a strength. What got the cop riled up was the Mexico comment.

In some countries there are laws against insulting a cop - you cannot just call someone "Shithead!" while he is in uniform. If you see him in private, then you can do it, but not in uniform, because his position is seen as a part of the executive branch of the government and you cannot command respect while everyone is allowed to call you asshole.

But it seems as is if the kid was actually dodging straight insults and found himself in a grey area.

I agree with DarkTriad - his partner should have stepped in and de-escalated. There are a myriad ways for cops to fuck with your life without resorting to this kind of bullshit.

(04-13-2017 11:39 PM)Suits Wrote:  Start a "fight a cop" boxing club. Have ghetto kids and cops train together and then fight each other in the ring. Might change some lives for the better...on both sides.

When I was in college, the boxing team set up a competition with the local police force. That was a bloody flight. And even that was just training for the main event with another university, later in the semester.

Unfortunately boxing is banned in US universities. Pussies. Imagine forty years ago, boxing was mandatory for male students.

(04-13-2017 10:32 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Nothing they do will make any difference to those places, and America still has enough class-mobility that anyone who really wants to get out can do so if they apply themselves.

Not trying to get into another argument. But if your entire politics is based on this, the premise is extremely weak.

This dude swore he was James Martinez from NYPD Blue. Funny stuff.

Mouthy dude definitely got his ass beat though.