Post: #1

So I've went out with this girl about 5 times and she won't put out. Whenever I escalate she'll turn me down saying she wants our first time on a bed. Her living situation is not ideal but possible I think if she really really wanted to(logistics etc). Mine is not good. It's never stopped me before. And frankly I'm getting very frustrated. We have genuine chemistry and very similar personality.

She is not a conservative or a good girl. She acknowledged she likes me a lot and wants it to be something more. She's had me meet her friends to "show me off." She's completely honest about how many guys she's slept with and all her faults. I've made it clear I just want to hook up. She told me recently she got on birth control and that i'd have to get tested before hooking up because she did.

She even acknowledges she's fucking a guy on the side at his place(bothers me a lot but she thinks I'm fucking other girls on the side). My theory is she's trying to boyfriend zone me or manipulate me into loving her. She keeps asking me to hang out. She pays for my drinks even when she's broke. She calls or texts first. Every time at the end of the date when things escalate too much she'll say has had to go.

Last time we hung out I simply left without doing the goodnight kiss routine and told her good night. she was very upset but I went radio silent for a few days. She called and asked me why I was mad. I said i wasn't and played it of like nothing she said I know your made let's talk about it but I said nah we're good. She invited me out with her friends for drinks and dancing and I said I would come but I'm thinking of flaking.

Should I just bring it up? Did she get the hint? Should I abort? I genuinally liked her but I'm getting tired of this shit and becoming very very bored of our relationship not moving forward or progressing anywhere. I don't want to go on anymore fucking dates that go nowhere. Should I say that?

Post: #2

Its not that unreasonable for a woman to want to bang you in a bed, instead of up against a tree in public... You know this right?

If she is down to bang in a bed, then she isn't trying to BF-zone you.

Book a room, buy some wine and bang.

Post: #3

Lol she's fucking a guy on the side but not you. I don't even know how the hell you still have this girl in your life...

Either she is not attracted to you physically and wants to keep you around as "a person to talk to" or she feels like you're what a girl should get but not what she really wants. This is 100% my opinion and I am no expert.

That shit makes my blood boil tho... The shit women do these days.

My suggestion would be go for one last very aggressive try, if it doesn't work tell her it's over

Post: #4

Don't ever make another thread or post on this forum again until you've watched this video at least 5 times.

Post: #5

^^This video is pure gold. Yeah OP watch that.

I would say that if she pays your drinks, then keep going out with her and approach other chicks, use her as social proof.

Post: #6

(05-05-2017 09:35 PM)Valhalla Wrote:  ...We have genuine chemistry and very similar personality.

Is this code for "ugly but agreeable"? Genuine question.

Quote:She's had me meet her friends to "show me off."

We're getting closer to the truth here.

Quote:She even acknowledges she's fucking a guy on the side at his place(bothers me a lot but she thinks I'm fucking other girls on the side).

Sweet Lord, dis boy need Jesus.

Take off the thirst goggles and assess this woman objectively. What is she? A 6? 5? 4?

Ironically ugly girls often will hold out on fucking the longest due to body issues and the hope that they can rope you into a relationship, particularly if you're physically attractive but emotionally weak. Let me repeat that. Physically attractive but emotionally weak.

Quote:She's had me meet her friends to "show me off."

...

She even acknowledges she's fucking a guy on the side...

You are an accessory to her. A handbag. A facebook status. A prop for selfies. This is one wafer thin layer above a beta orbiter. I'm guessing she lets you kiss her and maybe touch a boob every now and then, but doggy only gets one treat a day or he's going to get spoilt. Amiright?

This bitch is going to string you along until the end of time. I'm not hating on you. I've been in a similar situation and I put up with it a lot longer than you have. This is why I'm telling you to ditch this bitch. Even if you got the bang, you've already professed feelz for this girl and getting your dick in her fuckhole is only going to compound that retardation and cause you to put up with much more cockteasing and fuckwittery from her until you catch her being ass-pounded by an alpha, likely the most recent of many you never knew about, and you'll fall into a deep depression thinking about how much time, energy and opportunities you've wasted on this attention whore (I got out before that happened, thank Christ).

Friendzone her hard. Is she asks you why, tell her that blue balls hurt and the other girl (the one you're supposedly fucking) doesn't leave you with that issue. Tell her you like her better as a woman than the other girl, but the blue balls are a deal-breaker. If you want to leave on a dominant note and you think you can handle the emotional bullshit (BEWARE) then tell her all this in a private location. If she tells you she wants you to stay with her then tell her she's got to demonstrate that she can "meet you half way". Flop your dick out and put a hand on the back of her head.

At the end of that saga, however it works out, shut her out and put that shit out of your mind. Then tell us how it went.

Post: #7

She wants you to get tested but she's fucking another guy?



If she honestly believes that guy is fucking her and only her, she's an idiot.

Post: #8

Quote:She even acknowledges she's fucking a guy on the side at his place

The ridiculous stuff brothers will put up with for pussy.

Why do you suppose she's banging another dude on the side, but not you?

Because he's doing it in a bed?

You're just not hitting the right switches son, and it seems you never did.

Quote:She acknowledged she likes me a lot and wants it to be something more.

Women will try to use sex to lure a man they want to be with into a relationship; men may do the reverse.

You may be friend zoned already.

The only sure way out of this one is to hightail it.

No more dates, no more orbiting about this girl.

But its really your choice..

Quote:"First time they fuss i'm breezin'" -Jay Z

Post: #9

Your first good move was going radio silent. I think you should trust your gut on this one and you stated your first thought when she invited you out with her friends was to flake. That's your move.... do not go on another group date with this broad. As another wise poster said above me somewhere you are nothing but an accessory to this woman. She is fucking another guy but making you wait? If she was really that into you then she would be fucking you already. Or at the very least blowing you to completion lol... if a girl is warm for your form she will find a way to make something happen. She is using you for good time feelz while getting her holes stuffed by some guy who could give two shits about her. If you want to keep any shred of self respect you have two options. 1... Fucking walk bro... she isn't a special snowflake she has made that pretty clear. Option 2... ghost on her a bit DO NOT GO ON A GROUP DATE... reengage and get her out alone pay for a hotel room and bang her out....then fucking walk bro... give this bitch back the medicine she needs...i don't know how old you are or what your situation is or what you want from this girl but if you want a ltr is this how you want it to start? With a woman who was getting rawdogged on the reg by some Chad while you are taking her out wasting your time and getting a faint whiff of pussy in return... shit bro I would bet after at least 2 of your dates she went and got pounded out by this guy.

You're better then that buddy... grab your monster balls pick em up off the table and find some new ladies.

Post: #10

(05-06-2017 01:42 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  ...

Thank you for saving me a shit-ton a time, this was really needed.

Post: #11

Some good advice. I'll reply to soon it's early morning and I got to get to work.

She thinks I'm shady because I'm always texting and she suspects I'm fucking other girls and have a girlfriend.

I just got back from a night where we got some alone time. Got her cloths off, got to finger her, etc, and we were about to have sex just like I suspected she wants to bf me. She said "when I really like a guy I like to wait." It's all been manipulation tactic to get me to fall in love with her. and she said that she wanted me to be her boyfriend and how she wants us to be together and wants to be my submissive. I said no to the bf thing and said I had to leave.

I gotta say It was aesthically pleasing. could only fit one finger in there.

Post: #12

Young Padawan. This woman is fucking another dude. Why are you slow rolling on her with foreplay.

You should have escalated rapidly and when she pulled up said "last chance".

If you're still in her close orbit then start playing her off of her friends and work to get a bang out of one of them. If she's this big a bitch I'm sure her friends are too. Play it smart and you could fuck all of them in short order while pretending to be the innocent party.

Then bounce and laugh all the way out the door.

Post: #13

5+ dates and still no bang?

She is keeping you around because you're giving her attention. Sounds like your hamstring that she "wants to make you fall in love with her and be her bf". Even if she said that, PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT SHE DOES, NOT WHAT SHE SAYS.

She will string this out as long as she can. I recommend going no contact and forgetting her. Unless you like playing these games?

Post: #14

(05-05-2017 09:35 PM)Valhalla Wrote:  She's completely honest about how many guys she's slept with and all her faults.

Seriously, will you guys just cut the shit? How many times am I going to read, "She's not like other girls," "She's been 100% forthcoming," "She's only fucked 3-4 dudes, but that's it." Jesus fucking Christ...AWALT! I'll say it again for emphasis: AWALT. Quit trying to convince us the girl you can't bang, but who's banging one other dude on the side (that you know of), is anything better than the common American whore.

Post: #15

So she wants to do it in a bed... So where are you trying to take her? .

This just reminded me another thread where the its OP was upset because her girl didn't want to come straight to fuck, but she wanted to talk a bit first.

Post: #16

(05-08-2017 01:45 AM)Valhalla Wrote:  Some good advice. I'll reply to soon it's early morning and I got to get to work.

She thinks I'm shady because I'm always texting and she suspects I'm fucking other girls and have a girlfriend.

I just got back from a night where we got some alone time. Got her cloths off, got to finger her, etc, and we were about to have sex just like I suspected she wants to bf me. She said "when I really like a guy I like to wait." It's all been manipulation tactic to get me to fall in love with her. and she said that she wanted me to be her boyfriend and how she wants us to be together and wants to be my submissive. I said no to the bf thing and said I had to leave.

I gotta say It was aesthically pleasing. could only fit one finger in there.

Okay so elephant in the room... Is she still banging the other guy? I would only be in this situation if she was nothing more than a fuck buddy. The hell with dates and shit. I saw another post by a gent in this forum who said something along the lines of going out and getting free drinks from her meanwhile going for other girls. That is a super smart strategy I think. It'll show her that she has to work for you and she has competition. I guess it can be hard if you've caught feelings. I don't know the situation there. Catching feelings for a girl that goes on dates with you and fucks another guy makes no sense to me though I must say.

I don't wanna rip on you too much my man. Just don't devalue yourself. People always look at relationships as the woman being the victim in confrontations but that's false. You're the victim here brother. You made a good choice by telling her you had to leave. Showed you have self respect. Good on ya

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