Post: #1

Sup playas,

I've been invited to two parties this Saturday and I can't decide which one to go to. Ideally I would go to both (one involves going to a few bars and a club whilst the other is a house party) but they're miles away from each other.

I've been invited to the bar/club birthday by a hot Latina I met a few months ago. Been talking quite a bit and we bumped into each other at a house party a few weeks ago. She basically told me she likes me, but wants to remain friends for now as we're both busy (exams for her, work and biz for me). Although her exams are now over, this is the thing that's putting me off going. I don't want to spend all night chasing her and getting nowhere.

The house party is celebrating an old friends birthday. I haven't seen this guy in a few years and it would be good to catch up, although from speaking to him every now and then he appears to be a bit of a loser. Also, there are quite a few girls going, but literally all of them are average or below and I'm not sure if I'd pursue any of them.

What would rooshvforum do?

Post: #2

The "hot latina" is just milking you for attention. Most girls that are extremely attracted to a guy will make time for them regardless of how busy their schedule is.
Please keep this in mind when a girl makes a million excuses to not come with you.
Don't even waste your time going along with the bar/club hopping. A waste of money and time. The latina will just milk you for attention the whole night and then maybe you'll get a hug at the end of the night.

Go to the house party. Seeing old friends is a good time you might be surprised at the girls who show up (even ugly girls can have a random hot friend or two).
If the party ends up being a bust you can always bounce to a night club and bring some of the girls with you.

All of this depends on you motivation for saturday night is?
Get laid or have a good time. Both can happen at either place but chasing around a latina girl for a night is the fastest way to get blueballs

Post: #3

I'd say go to the latina's party and game all her friends. Ignore the latina. Think of her rage when you bust in her friends.

Post: #4

Republican

Post: #5

(05-11-2017 01:47 AM)RedKurrant Wrote:  ...She basically told me she likes me, but wants to remain friends for now as we're both busy (exams for her, work and biz for me)
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Don't go to this party. I didn't read the other one.

General question though: How does this come up? I suppose I get it, if I harken back to my naivete' at the tender age of 18...getting to know a girl, showing some interest, and her explaining she wants to be friends. Even back then though, I bailed right away. Somehow, viscerally, I knew something was off about that. And it only happened to me once.

I just can't even fathom a girl telling me she wants to be friends. I can't imagine any type of a verbal exchange where the nature of our relationship comes up, before I've banged her at least a few times.

I show interest. Maybe kiss, make out, handsy...if it aint happenin, she'll let me know with her body language. Push pull a little more. If she doesn't show interest in hanging out again, I figure, while she may be interested, she isn't interested right now.

But generally, I'm not friends with women.

Post: #6

(05-11-2017 01:47 AM)RedKurrant Wrote:  Sup playas,

Post: #7

(05-11-2017 01:47 AM)RedKurrant Wrote:  She basically told me she likes me, but wants to remain friends for now as we're both busy (exams for her, work and biz for me).

She likes you in her orbit, but she does not care to have your penis inside of her. And what is basically told you she likes you? You mean she was flirty, or was it her way of shooting you down when you asked her out?

I'd go for the house party. Latina girl is going to focus on drinking and dancing with her friends, and unless you have tight game and can work on her friends, you're just going to be sitting on the sidelines all night. Also, with house parties, it's easier to isolate and escape the noise. Girls are more relaxed at house parties vs clubs, especially if you get some drinking games going and show them a good time.

If the house party seems like a bore, then you can always arrive late to Latina girl's club, or do your own thing.

Post: #8

Latinas are wiley little creatures. If she said she liked you and you weren't balls deep in her a few hours later you probably aren't gonna swoop. It's about machismo with spanish women.

I'd go to the house party.

Post: #9

When I was in 5th grade, I wouldn't have believed it if the Jim in his 40's came back in time and told him that the male friendships are much, much tougher to come by than women. Hold onto your friendships, they are what is lasting, and unless you marry, are far more important.

Post: #10

Cheers for all the replies so far.

(05-11-2017 11:16 AM)heavy Wrote:  

(05-11-2017 01:47 AM)RedKurrant Wrote:  ...She basically told me she likes me, but wants to remain friends for now as we're both busy (exams for her, work and biz for me)
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General question though: How does this come up? I suppose I get it, if I harken back to my naivete' at the tender age of 18...getting to know a girl, showing some interest, and her explaining she wants to be friends. Even back then though, I bailed right away. Somehow, viscerally, I knew something was off about that. And it only happened to me once.

I just can't even fathom a girl telling me she wants to be friends. I can't imagine any type of a verbal exchange where the nature of our relationship comes up, before I've banged her at least a few times.

(05-11-2017 01:23 PM)Serious Sam Wrote:  

(05-11-2017 01:47 AM)RedKurrant Wrote:  She basically told me she likes me, but wants to remain friends for now as we're both busy (exams for her, work and biz for me).

She likes you in her orbit, but she does not care to have your penis inside of her. And what is basically told you she likes you? You mean she was flirty, or was it her way of shooting you down when you asked her out?

She said we should be friends for now when I isolated her at the house party the other week. Whilst alone together, I kept making a move and we'd end up grinding a bit, but she kept teasing and pulling away and wouldn't even kiss me. After like 5 rounds of this she eventually said she doesn't know what she wants and doesn't want to hurt me. I replied along the lines of "you won't" and tried again, but I got the same response.

My issue is that I lack any sort of abundance whatsoever. I wouldn't be at all bothered if i had other girls lined up, but I don't - I have fairly high standards and it's rare that I meet someone I like.

I'm in my early-mid twenties and have only slept with two girls, both being long-term girlfriends. Asides from that, I have no other experience. Due to financial circumstances and focusing on building a business, I live at home with my mum, so I don't have the opportunity to bring a girl back to mine. I only ever meet women at parties/nights out with friends, who all live in a big city ~1 hour away from me.

My other issue is that I'm too nice. I don't want to act like a dick to women because I don't want to upset them. Yet, ironically, it's me who ends up getting pissed off because I just can't seem to close the deal with anyone. It's particularly annoying because despite the fact I've read a lot on here, roosh's site and TRP, I can never seem to put the theory into practice.

Post: #11

(05-11-2017 12:45 PM)[email protected] Wrote:  

(05-11-2017 01:47 AM)RedKurrant Wrote:  Sup playas,

I was about to write "Paging Cr33pin and his Steve Buscemi gif"

Post: #12

(05-11-2017 01:23 PM)Serious Sam Wrote:  If the house party seems like a bore, then you can always arrive late to Latina girl's club, or do your own thing.

^ Correct answer, actually.

Post: #13

You say your friend is a bit of a loser eh? Lmao well how good of friends are you?

The Latina situation sounds like it could turn into a relationship. If you go to your friends party then she should understand that. She wouldn't be as understanding if you ended up banging a girl there.

I've gotten to the point myself where I think it's important to maintain relationships with your buddies. I just graduated from university and while I may not be the most mature guy ever, I've come to the conclusion that I want to keep relationships with my buddies. It would kind of be a dick move to blow off your buddy for a girl after not seeing him for years, but if you think he's a loser then I guess it doesn't matter.

If you're looking at this situation only to get laid, then I would also say the house party is your best bet because house parties are easier to game in than a nightclub. The girls are usually friendlier and more approachable. You also have mutual friends present. The house party seems like the choice to me. If the girls are ugly then that is unfortunate, but you probably wouldn't have success if you went to the Latina girls place. You'd probs just be stuck on the sidelines like someone said earlier in this post. Fuck that, brother.

Best of luck. Cheers

Post: #14

Quote:She said we should be friends for now when I isolated her at the house party the other week. Whilst alone together, I kept making a move and we'd end up grinding a bit, but she kept teasing and pulling away and wouldn't even kiss me. After like 5 rounds of this she eventually said she doesn't know what she wants and doesn't want to hurt me. I replied along the lines of "you won't" and tried again, but I got the same response.

My issue is that I lack any sort of abundance whatsoever. I wouldn't be at all bothered if i had other girls lined up, but I don't - I have fairly high standards and it's rare that I meet someone I like.

I'm in my early-mid twenties and have only slept with two girls, both being long-term girlfriends. Asides from that, I have no other experience. Due to financial circumstances and focusing on building a business, I live at home with my mum, so I don't have the opportunity to bring a girl back to mine. I only ever meet women at parties/nights out with friends, who all live in a big city ~1 hour away from me.

After reading this, I'm 100% on the house party. She's a cock tease who will string you along, but never put out. I would drop any expectations you have with her. Also, you're not at the point where I'm confident you'll be able to make headway in the club with Latina girl and her friends.

Quote:My other issue is that I'm too nice. I don't want to act like a dick to women because I don't want to upset them. Yet, ironically, it's me who ends up getting pissed off because I just can't seem to close the deal with anyone. It's particularly annoying because despite the fact I've read a lot on here, roosh's site and TRP, I can never seem to put the theory into practice.

This is where a lot of guys struggle to understand nuance and delivery, which are more important than the actual words you say. When I read "nice," I hear "timid." People mix the two. Just because you're timid doesn't mean you're nice. I've met plenty of so-called "nice" guys who are actually timid, passive-aggressive assholes.

Now, you might be a genuinely kind person, and guess what? So are many seasoned players. A lot of newbies think the trick is being the biggest dick in the room, but there are plenty of dickish people who never get laid because they turn everyone off. This is where delivery and nuance come into play.

Have you ever heard a guy drop a line that sounded like it should offend a girl, but she laughs instead? And then heard another guy basically drop the same line and get told to fuck off? The drunken guy who's shit-talking everyone around him, does he get laid? Or is it the guy who's cracking jokes, making the girls laugh, even if the words coming from his mouth sound like the words of an asshole? Wording, the confidence with which you deliver, and the way you deliver it are what matters.

You don't need to be an asshole to get girls, just put some confidence and a smile behind your words. Dread game works best on girls you already know. If you haven't built rapport with a girl, she's less likely to give a shit. New girls want a fun, mysterious, confident man. When you're timid, you're neither fun nor confident. You're also more likely to talk about the boring shit about your life, leaving zero room for mysterious adventure.

Think about how your conversations have gone with the Latina girl. Did you sell her an adventurous man, or just a timid regular Joe? I'm guessing the latter. Your logistics suck, so I'm sure that hurts your confidence going into your interactions with women. Even so, work on what you say and how you say it. Avoid boring everyday conversation and give hints about the interesting shit you do without spelling it all out.

Post: #15

It's a no-brainer, go to party #2. Bros before hoes.

If you go bar hopping with the latina who wants to be "friends" with you, you'll be that guy watching the show while she dances with other guys. If you're VERY lucky, you'll get a hug and probably a peck on the cheek at the end of the night. You'll be expected to buy her drinks as well. Never go bar hopping with a girl and her friends if you haven't banged at least one of them.

Meeting your old friend will allow you to reconnect with them and make connections. House parties are better than bar hopping too.

Post: #16

(05-12-2017 12:11 PM)BrandonCodi Wrote:  The Latina situation sounds like it could turn into a relationship.

No, it doesn't sound anything like that. It sounds exactly like the situation Rawmeo described. Regardless of which party is the better choice, the OP would be better off moving on and picking up other women.

As for the question of which party:
House party > Bar hopping with friends > Solo bar hopping > Staying home > Bar hopping as the latina's designated orbiter.