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Black and White Nationalists That Date Outside Their Race
In my teen years I naturally gravitated towards white nationalism because I grew up in a very liberal environment, in which virtually all the institutions in my area were left of center (school system, media, the govt). I also found a lot of the discussions on online forums to be very fascinating and thought provoking. Many of the posters on these forums were very objective, red-pilled, and very well-informed minus a few trolls. As I've grown up though, I've seen a lot of hypocrisy in some of these nationalist circles especially on the fringes.
There was this group called the NSM (The National Socialist Movement) which operated about an hour and a half a way from me. I always disliked their style of dress, and I believed that many of their members were very un-professional and very un-disciplined as a movement. The sad thing was that the media would like to broadcast their marches as a way of showing how pathetic their movement was. The joke was that there was 100 counter demonstrators for every one NSM demonstrator. In hindsight, I found it ludicrous that the media was giving so much attention to such an obscure group that was by all means politically impotent.
Furthermore, their leader Jeff Schoep made headlines in the SPLC for dating a Syrian woman with a mixed race daughter while another member also was said to have had relations with a native american woman. In another case, a school principal and popular WN online poster by the name of Scott Roberts was said to have had a relationship with a woman of Mexican descent. I'm sure I could name other examples, but they really wouldn't be worth mentioning.
The Nation of Islam is a black nationalist group with a wide following among the black community. At one time, Kanye and Dave Chappelle were prominent members. They both also went on to marry non-black spouses. Obama's advisor, Van Jones was originally a member of the group, but he went on to marry a white women. I can guarantee you that a lot of these men have black nationalist sentiments today.
My question is what compels a black or white nationalist to date outside their race? Why do these people set such a double standard?
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RE: Black and White Nationalists That Date Outside Their Race
Pussy. Pussy has no race when you want it, nationalism crumbles in the face of hot interracial pussy.
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RE: Black and White Nationalists That Date Outside Their Race
The short version is that many of these nationalist are full of shit. That includes the pro white and pro blacks. The leaders are often just opportunist. The followers are often just ignorant or have some fear that is being exploited by the leaders. Some nationalist are also extremely self loathing and use their "nationalism" as a way to compensate.
Either way, nationalism, more specifically ethnic nationalism has to be one of the dumbest ideologies ever; especially here in the United States.
It's all a primitive form of tribalism.
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RE: Black and White Nationalists That Date Outside Their Race
The average weight of a Japanese girl is 110 lbs.
The average white woman is 165 lbs.
Is this even a choice?
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RE: Black and White Nationalists That Date Outside Their Race
Most of the white nationalist guys are fatter more redneck slobbish types.
These guys only attract a certain breed of woman. Check out those two sexy socialists. Unless those guys go outside their race the only choice they have for women are ones that look like those two. Also, their hatred mixed with stupidity keeps them from moving up the financial ladder, another tough thing to get over. No decent woman yearns to settle down with the jiffy lube manager that thinks he and his people are the master race.
Matt Forney comes to mind here. I saw him recently on a CNN show rerun. He looked like Rerun, but white. He wrote a book about banging Filipino girls. This is because with his body type and belief system, he cannot get a decent white woman to go anywhere near him. Thus, he has to go to a place where a fatter white man means economic stability, but he thinks he's an expert because, well, he's the master race.
The Nation of Islam types are slightly different. Kanye and Dave Chappelle have big money, so they have their pick of whatever women they want. I also believe the Nation of Islam type guys are a bit more on the alpha side than say a member of the National Policy Institute. Probably a lot easier for them.
Hope that makes sense.
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(06-08-2017 05:43 PM)Kona Wrote: Hope that makes sense.
We are probably standing on totally opposite side in this, but you analysed it exactly how it is. Guys are using it mostly as escapism from their shitty lives. I would rather get a beer with Mossad crew than with those fat LARPing pigs. It's just a counter-subculture, does not mean anything more, they are at the same level as another stupid subcultures of today. National Socialism means strength if anything and if they don't have that, they are just another screaming consumerist pigs.
Untermenschen shouting empty slogans before stuffing their mouths.
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RE: Black and White Nationalists That Date Outside Their Race
(06-08-2017 07:21 PM)Delta Wrote: Political views and personal decisions are two entirely different beasts; politics operate on a macro level while personal relationships operate on an individual level. For example, it wouldn't be hypocritical or inconsistent for someone who believes Islam is a cancer on humanity to fall in love with a Muslim girl. The havoc created by radical Islamists has nothing to do with that particular woman.
Frankly this is one of the things I can't stand about SJW's, conflating the political with the personal.
I agree with you, yet you are somewhat wrong. You might be right that it's just political views for the guys in question, but it's everything but that. It's a spiritual journey, it's a religion, it goes much deeper than you might think. You have to be National Socialist as much as you are breathing, eating and fucking, it's the core part of your identity. You cannot just come home after a rally to your Hapa wife and watch porn.
Eventually all of this comes to victim mentality that is present all over the 21st century right.
They are like "They take our jobs!", "They take our women!", "They invade our countries!".
For me it's - I take other peoples jobs, I take other peoples women and they are not invading nothing, they are just walking into a trap and they just don't know it yet.
If you asked me how I "practice" my beliefs on daily basis I would answer that I do it by going into gym 6 times a week, getting money and dominating bitches. It's not given, every day is part of your journey to become Übermensch.
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(06-08-2017 01:24 PM)rudebwoy Wrote: Didn't I read a post recently about loads of white nationalists dating oriental women. (Asian)
You did:
(06-03-2017 01:03 AM)Excelsior Wrote: (05-30-2017 07:14 PM)Fortis Wrote: Yeah I do co-sign what Ex said about Happas and white dudes.
That's pretty humorous. The number of straight-up racists you run into in china (hate chinese and all non-whites) with happa chinese kids is hilarious.
I'm not surprised. Even outside of China, this kind of thing is even more common than you'd think.
(06-08-2017 07:21 PM)Delta Wrote: Political views and personal decisions are two entirely different beasts; politics operate on a macro level while personal relationships operate on an individual level. For example, it wouldn't be hypocritical or inconsistent for someone who believes Islam is a cancer on humanity to fall in love with a Muslim girl. The havoc created by radical Islamists has nothing to do with that particular woman.
Frankly this is one of the things I can't stand about SJW's, conflating the political with the personal.
They're conflated because they are not separable. If you advocate for white supremacy and spend all day droning on and on about the evils of miscegenation/race mixing/"white genocide", and then proceed to contradict that in your personal life, you're a hypocrite.
If you are advocating for the extermination of Islam and mass deportation of all muslims while simultaneously fucking muslim women, you're a hypocrite. Those are fundamentally contradictory things: you cannot claim to love someone while simultaneously doing everything in your power to create a world more hostile to them and everyone close to them.
If you advocate for white supremacy and have non-white children (meaning that you are effectively advocating for a world that is more hostile to them), you are a hypocrite.
There's nothing SJW about that, it's just a fact.
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Quote:If you are advocating for the extermination of Islam and mass deportation of all muslims while simultaneously fucking muslim women, you're a hypocrite.
Muslim women are forbidden to marry non-Muslim men. So if you're fucking a Muslim woman I'd say you're taking a step towards extermination of Islam.
When it comes to religion and culture, there's a HUGE difference between men and women. If a 200,000 Muslim Women aged 19-25 came flooding into the United States from Malaysia and married non-religious American Men, you can bet that men would not be particularly concerned about it. These women would disperse and integrate into the mainstream. Of course they would have some influence on the culture and you might see some Islamic values expressed more commonly, but the changes would be muted and gradual. The women would not form a unified political faction. They'll push their husbands to provide for them. The biggest problem would be the hysterical reaction of feminists objecting to the mate competition. I'm sure you've seen women deride men who marry women from Eastern Europe and Southeast Asia already.
Now take 200,000 Muslim men or Muslim families, and the consequences to the society will be starkly different. They will fort up in an ethnic enclave. They will resist assimilation. They will bring their cultural norms and institutions with them, replacing Christian Churches with Mosques. They will form a unified political faction. They will agitate for changes to laws that favor them. They will breed like rabbits and soak up public resources. And men are the ones who commit crime, so if there's a significant criminal element when you import men you'll be importing crime.
So, when it comes to immigration and religion, men vs women aren't the same thing at all. Men lead women follow.
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(06-08-2017 08:52 PM)Blaster Wrote: Quote:If you are advocating for the extermination of Islam and mass deportation of all muslims while simultaneously fucking muslim women, you're a hypocrite.
Muslim women are forbidden to marry non-Muslim men. So if you're fucking a Muslim woman I'd say you're taking a step towards extermination of Islam....
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So, when it comes to immigration and religion, men vs women aren't the same thing at all...
Indeed, if you're going to read one post in this thread, read Blaster's.
Human reproductive potential is limited through the female side of a population, not the male side, regardless if this population is delimited by religious, genetic, national, or whatever criteria.
Hence, "policing" female reproductive choices is much more important.
This isn't even really specific to Muslims, Whites, Blacks, or even to humans.
This is all assuming that White Nationalists and Black Nationalists dating or marrying inter-racially with disproportionate frequency is "a Thing," of which I'm not convinced. Just the premise itself invites "No True [White/Black] Nationalist" arguments, and I have seen zero evidence White nor Black nationalists out-marry at rates higher than one would expect after adjusting for the usual suite of obvious factors like SES, IQ, education, etc.
I'm just playing along.
To my recollection, this has been suggested twice recently, in the Forum Lounge that
"White Nationalists" pair up with Asians unusually frequently, and in one of the SJW/Antifa threads that a lot of these female black SJW agitators have white boyfriends (with photos to boot).
What I wrote on the Forum Lounge:
(06-03-2017 05:01 PM)Kabal Wrote: (05-31-2017 03:08 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote: (05-31-2017 02:53 AM)Chris Brown Wrote: Speaking of being white, are people here familiar with Andrew Anglin, webmaster of the Daily Stormer? Is he a hundred percent white?
https://longingfordeath.wordpress.com/20...%EF%B8%8F/
No idea - I don't engage in those circles. The ideology is too faulty to say the least.
On the blog you see the huge number of actual Neo-Nazis who have Asian wives and half-Asian children - way to "save the White race".
Though the author there puts the sane anti-immigration guys into the same pot as the Neo-Nazis and cannot differentiate between the two. You are either full on Open Borders or you are a Nazi - nothing in between, no argument can be made for preserving a culture as it is.
If by hypothesis it is true "actual Neo-Nazis" have Asian wives and half-Asian children at disproportionately high rates (which I kind of doubt ex-ante), this would by no means contradict a desire to "save the White race," to the degree they have such a desire.
As is the case with most animals--and especially with humans (long gestation periods, intense maternal investment in offspring [relatively intense paternal investment, too, but lesser and more variable than maternal investment])--The reproductive potential of a population is physically limited by its females, not males. Our instincts as humans has this baked into our psyche.
To said hypothetical Neo-Nazis, white men knocking-up women of other populations is not a huge deal, especially when the other population has similar (or better) average characteristics on socio-biological measures like IQ, SES, and crime. It might be even viewed positively by them, since it is still at least passing half a "white" genomic package.
White women getting knocked-up, conversely, is much more costly (on average*)--especially by males of other populations with worse average characteristics on socio-biological measures like IQ, SES and crime.
*It's not like all white women are of the same IQ... white trash women and their half-brood-spawn getting permanently absorbed by non-white populations could be viewed as lifting the IQs of both white and non-white lower-IQ populations, although neutral to the overall IQ. The general form of this (moving one element from one set to another to raise the means of both) is informally called the Will Rogers Phenomenon.
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RE: Black and White Nationalists That Date Outside Their Race
(06-08-2017 08:11 PM)Excelsior Wrote: (06-08-2017 07:21 PM)Delta Wrote: Political views and personal decisions are two entirely different beasts; politics operate on a macro level while personal relationships operate on an individual level. For example, it wouldn't be hypocritical or inconsistent for someone who believes Islam is a cancer on humanity to fall in love with a Muslim girl. The havoc created by radical Islamists has nothing to do with that particular woman.
Frankly this is one of the things I can't stand about SJW's, conflating the political with the personal.
They're conflated because they are not separable. If you advocate for white supremacy and spend all day droning on and on about the evils of miscegenation/race mixing/"white genocide", and then proceed to contradict that in your personal life, you're a hypocrite.
If you are advocating for the extermination of Islam and mass deportation of all muslims while simultaneously fucking muslim women, you're a hypocrite. Those are fundamentally contradictory things: you cannot claim to love someone while simultaneously doing everything in your power to create a world more hostile to them and everyone close to them.
If you advocate for white supremacy and have non-white children (meaning that you are effectively advocating for a world that is more hostile to them), you are a hypocrite.
There's nothing SJW about that, it's just a fact.
This is true; when I wrote my post, I was not considering the trailer trash Neo-Nazi idiots that you seem to be describing, I was thinking about the more intellectual white nationalists (e.g. Heartiste, who proudly admits to dating other races). Obviously some who rails against miscegenation would be a hypocrite to date outside his race, but many people you could call white nationalists don't share those views, and just want to restrict non-white immigration.
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RE: Black and White Nationalists That Date Outside Their Race
(06-08-2017 10:05 PM)Kabal Wrote: What I wrote on the Forum Lounge:
(06-03-2017 05:01 PM)Kabal Wrote: (05-31-2017 03:08 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote: (05-31-2017 02:53 AM)Chris Brown Wrote: Speaking of being white, are people here familiar with Andrew Anglin, webmaster of the Daily Stormer? Is he a hundred percent white?
https://longingfordeath.wordpress.com/20...%EF%B8%8F/
No idea - I don't engage in those circles. The ideology is too faulty to say the least.
On the blog you see the huge number of actual Neo-Nazis who have Asian wives and half-Asian children - way to "save the White race".
Though the author there puts the sane anti-immigration guys into the same pot as the Neo-Nazis and cannot differentiate between the two. You are either full on Open Borders or you are a Nazi - nothing in between, no argument can be made for preserving a culture as it is.
If by hypothesis it is true "actual Neo-Nazis" have Asian wives and half-Asian children at disproportionately high rates (which I kind of doubt ex-ante), this would by no means contradict a desire to "save the White race," to the degree they have such a desire.
As is the case with most animals--and especially with humans (long gestation periods, intense maternal investment in offspring [relatively intense paternal investment, too, but lesser and more variable than maternal investment])--The reproductive potential of a population is physically limited by its females, not males. Our instincts as humans has this baked into our psyche.
To said hypothetical Neo-Nazis, white men knocking-up women of other populations is not a huge deal, especially when the other population has similar (or better) average characteristics on socio-biological measures like IQ, SES, and crime. It might be even viewed positively by them, since it is still at least passing half a "white" genomic package.
White women getting knocked-up, conversely, is much more costly (on average*)--especially by males of other populations with worse average characteristics on socio-biological measures like IQ, SES and crime.
*It's not like all white women are of the same IQ... white trash women and their half-brood-spawn getting permanently absorbed by non-white populations could be viewed as lifting the IQs of both white and non-white lower-IQ populations, although neutral to the overall IQ. The general form of this (moving one element from one set to another to raise the means of both) is informally called the Will Rogers Phenomenon.
See above the standard cop-out applied by hypocritical white nationalists/supremacists in defense of their actions. It was quite well done, actually, as these are the actual arguments that are made. Seriously, well written.
Here's the reality.
Most of these guys are, as Kona articulated quite eloquently and accurately, not winners in the SMV game. They don't do well in the American sexual market and they have relatively middling to low value.
In Asia especially, this tends not to be the case because white men are generally worshiped in many parts of that continent. These men are playing geo-arbitrage. And hey, who can blame them? If I found a whole continent filled with relatively attractive young women who would love to give me the time of day (in spite of the fact that I am a white supremacist and they are not white) when women at home would not, I'd go too. Can't hate on that, any rational male in their position would do the same.
What is true, however, is that their seeking these women out has absolutely nothing to do with their conceptions of SES, IQ, etc. That's just window dressing. In fact, quite often these men will contradict that purpose in chasing these women because many of these places do not have particularly good SES/IQ indicators (the Philippines is a prime example of this). This is all really about access to pussy. They want to get it, and these women will give it to them easily. It is that simple.
If they viewed the mere act of passing "half a white genomic package" on to the next generation as a benefit, these same men would have no problem with white women getting with black or other men. The reason they are bothered by that (in spite of freely engaging in interracial unions themselves and producing non-white children) comes down to the fact that they hate those men and are made to feel sexually insecure by them. Promoting a world view in which they can fuck anyone they like while all of those other men need to stay in their lane soothes that insecurity, jives well with the hatred and general disdain they have for those other men, and breeds comfort. Saddling all of those men with titles like "dysgenic" and promoting other negative and irrelevant labels and stereotypes designed to stain them accomplishes the same purpose - they get to portray everyone else as dirt while simultaneously elevating themselves to the mountaintop of human masculinity (a place western dating markets never allowed them to occupy). Being around women who worship the ground they walk on because of their skin tone adds further comfort and just completes the process.
It isn't complicated.
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RE: Black and White Nationalists That Date Outside Their Race
(06-09-2017 12:58 AM)Excelsior Wrote: (06-08-2017 10:05 PM)Kabal Wrote: What I wrote on the Forum Lounge:
(06-03-2017 05:01 PM)Kabal Wrote: (05-31-2017 03:08 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote: (05-31-2017 02:53 AM)Chris Brown Wrote: Speaking of being white, are people here familiar with Andrew Anglin, webmaster of the Daily Stormer? Is he a hundred percent white?
https://longingfordeath.wordpress.com/20...%EF%B8%8F/
No idea - I don't engage in those circles. The ideology is too faulty to say the least.
On the blog you see the huge number of actual Neo-Nazis who have Asian wives and half-Asian children - way to "save the White race".
Though the author there puts the sane anti-immigration guys into the same pot as the Neo-Nazis and cannot differentiate between the two. You are either full on Open Borders or you are a Nazi - nothing in between, no argument can be made for preserving a culture as it is.
If by hypothesis it is true "actual Neo-Nazis" have Asian wives and half-Asian children at disproportionately high rates (which I kind of doubt ex-ante), this would by no means contradict a desire to "save the White race," to the degree they have such a desire.
As is the case with most animals--and especially with humans (long gestation periods, intense maternal investment in offspring [relatively intense paternal investment, too, but lesser and more variable than maternal investment])--The reproductive potential of a population is physically limited by its females, not males. Our instincts as humans has this baked into our psyche.
To said hypothetical Neo-Nazis, white men knocking-up women of other populations is not a huge deal, especially when the other population has similar (or better) average characteristics on socio-biological measures like IQ, SES, and crime. It might be even viewed positively by them, since it is still at least passing half a "white" genomic package.
White women getting knocked-up, conversely, is much more costly (on average*)--especially by males of other populations with worse average characteristics on socio-biological measures like IQ, SES and crime.
*It's not like all white women are of the same IQ... white trash women and their half-brood-spawn getting permanently absorbed by non-white populations could be viewed as lifting the IQs of both white and non-white lower-IQ populations, although neutral to the overall IQ. The general form of this (moving one element from one set to another to raise the means of both) is informally called the Will Rogers Phenomenon.
See above the standard cop-out applied by hypocritical white nationalists/supremacists in defense of their actions. It was quite well done, actually, as these are the actual arguments that are made. Seriously, well written.
Here's the reality.
Most of these guys are, as Kona articulated quite eloquently and accurately, not winners in the SMV game. They don't do well in the American sexual market and they have relatively middling to low value.
In Asia especially, this tends not to be the case because white men are generally worshiped in many parts of that continent. These men are playing geo-arbitrage. And hey, who can blame them? If I found a whole continent filled with relatively attractive young women who would love to give me the time of day (in spite of the fact that I am a white supremacist and they are not white) when women at home would not, I'd go too. Can't hate on that, any rational male in their position would do the same.
What is true, however, is that their seeking these women out has absolutely nothing to do with their conceptions of SES, IQ, etc. That's just window dressing. In fact, quite often these men will contradict that purpose in chasing these women because many of these places do not have particularly good SES/IQ indicators (the Philippines is a prime example of this). This is all really about access to pussy. They want to get it, and these women will give it to them easily. It is that simple.
If they viewed the mere act of passing "half a white genomic package" on to the next generation as a benefit, these same men would have no problem with white women getting with black or other men. The reason they are bothered by that (in spite of freely engaging in interracial unions themselves and producing non-white children) comes down to the fact that they hate those men and are made to feel sexually insecure by them. Promoting a world view in which they can fuck anyone they like while all of those other men need to stay in their lane soothes that insecurity, jives well with the hatred and general disdain they have for those other men, and breeds comfort. Saddling all of those men with titles like "dysgenic" and promoting other negative and irrelevant labels and stereotypes designed to stain them accomplishes the same purpose - they get to portray everyone else as dirt while simultaneously elevating themselves to the mountaintop of human masculinity (a place western dating markets never allowed them to occupy). Being around women who worship the ground they walk on because of their skin tone adds further comfort and just completes the process.
It isn't complicated.
When you say things like, "here's the reality," perhaps that sounds cool and authoritative in your head, like a child enacting dialogue with action figures.
However, subbing in the phrase "here's my speculation" works better. And in much of your "content," the phrase "here's my imagination" works better yet. Such (a) substitution(s) does not change the rigor of your "content" at all, which is not a compliment.
Stockholders in similar cliche'd phrases like "Real talk" and "Knowledge bomb" were disappointed to not see those get used.
I already pre-empted your silly word-vomit of a post by alluding to and out-right stating the differences between male and female reproductive capacity (which pertains not to just humans), and why the dating/marriage/reproductive patterns of White or Black Nationalists need not contradict their goals, if their goals and/or dating/marriage/reproductive patterns are to be inferred from what other posters wrote.
If you are going to shot-gun blast un-falsifiable accusations of "insecurity," the first target should be that which you see in the mirror.
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Excelsior
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RE: Black and White Nationalists That Date Outside Their Race
(06-09-2017 02:00 AM)Kabal Wrote: When you say things like, "here's the reality," perhaps that sounds cool and authoritative in your head, like a child enacting dialogue with action figures.
However, subbing in the phrase "here's my speculation" works better. And in much of your "content," the phrase "here's my imagination" works better yet. Such (a) substitution(s) does not change the rigor of your "content" at all, which is not a compliment.
Well, no, it doesn't change the rigor of said content because the content is factual regardless of which "substitution" you endeavour to make. You can pretend to call it mere speculation or imaginative flourish as often and for as long as you like, but the truth is as truth does. The term you attempt to attach to it doesn't alter the factual nature of the content underlying it.
I prefer not to hide said truth, which is why I used the term "reality" to make it pretty clear where said truth was. I don't see any need to disguise it and make those endeavouring to see it work any harder than they have to.
But if it makes you feel better to play the substitution game, go right ahead. Who am I to deny a man his measure of comfort? Find your safe space.
Quote:Stockholders in similar cliche'd phrases like "Real talk" and "Knowledge bomb" were disappointed to not see those get used.
Rough market. Shame for them.
Quote:I already pre-empted your silly word-vomit of a post by alluding to and out-right stating the differences between male and female reproductive capacity (which pertains not to just humans), and why the dating/marriage/reproductive patterns of White or Black Nationalists need not contradict their goals, if their goals and/or dating/marriage/reproductive patterns are to be inferred from what other posters wrote.
No, you did not actually do anything with those statements except provide an ineffective and obvious cover for the real motivations behind the dynamic we're discussing. Said motivations were revealed in my post.
Quote:If you are going to shot-gun blast un-falsifiable accusations of "insecurity," the first target should be that which you see in the mirror.
Wow, bringing out the metaphorical shotguns and thinly veiled suicide references.
Between that and the mentions of vomit, it would appear that I might have touched a nerve.
I hate to see that. Perhaps we should hurry up and find you that safe space so you'll get some time to recover and cool off.
(This post was last modified: 06-09-2017 02:53 AM by Excelsior.)
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