Quote:I'm more from the camp that would like something Spanish-style with a walled courtyard in the southwest with a 20-something illegal housekeeper/cook who likes to sunbath topless in her off-hours and a couple of horses, but having a summer place in the Pacific Northwest to break up the days would be ideal.

^^That is a great setup as well. It's funny you mentioned the sexy maid, because the biggest pitfall in getting large, naturally beautiful properties like these is that they probably don't help you out with girls that much. All the hotties are in the city, and by the time you can get one out to your seaside mansion or desert villa you'd have to have sealed the deal already.

For this reason I don't think I'll plunk down for a big property like this until I'm quite a bit older, if ever. The better play for leveraging your cash to help with the ladies is to travel overseas and live it up by renting prime spots near the nightlife or, even better, having a nice boat in the harbor. This presumes your job allows you to take extended time off but if it does, then that is for sure the way to go.

@Jetset

Do you have a reference link for that house? More details, or is it just a pic from the internet?

I am in your corner with the courtyards.

One of the houses I lived in growing up was a bit over 8,000 square feet and I thought that was too big. The house totally lacked intimacy. Everyone is so divided and living in their own seperate part of the house. I don't like that at all.

Personally when single or with a girlfriend nothing to me beats a nice Studio or 1BR condo. If I were a family with kids I'd be much rather a more more 1,500-2,000 square foot home where atleast I'd see my kids every day rather than have them hiding out on a floor of their own.

This guys house looks cool but in terms of family living I wouldn't like it at all.

(06-26-2017 10:26 AM)Rice Brah Wrote:  ^^That is a great setup as well. It's funny you mentioned the sexy maid, because the biggest pitfall in getting large, naturally beautiful properties like these is that they probably don't help you out with girls that much. All the hotties are in the city, and by the time you can get one out to your seaside mansion or desert villa you'd have to have sealed the deal already.

The Old School solution to this would be to keep a townhouse and a larger country home. In London, you wouldn't have wanted to be in the country when Parliament was in and you could attend all the cool parties. On the other hand, you would have been an idiot to stay in town during the flu season.

That's why there's something to be said for split time. At times, I've considered doing summers in NYC and then winters in a warm destination with a resort-style pad that's all mine that I can invite women out to. If you could reliably sublet to a grad student or something, keeping a studio in Manhattan wouldn't burn you down financially too badly.

...and the maid who sucks cock really works out if you can get it and keep it reliably discrete.

(06-26-2017 10:36 AM)debeguiled Wrote:  @Jetset

Do you have a reference link for that house? More details, or is it just a pic from the internet?

I am in your corner with the courtyards.

I just yoinked one from the real estate listings. They're plunked into the mountainsides all over the Scottsdale and Santa Fe areas in various configurations of Tuscan, Spanish, and Pueblo architecture. It's a funny area, because even if you're in the city, your realtor will often ask right off if you need to be zoned for horses - which, if you can afford it, having an acre-sized horse property 20 minutes from downtown Scottsdale and 20 minutes from Saguaro Lake solves both the nightlife/pulling problem and the boating problem.



That house, specifically, is 11,000 sqft, on 5 acres with a 7-car garage, a little more dramatic than I'd ever need, but they have the right idea on that pool area: http://homesoftherich.net/2012/07/11800-...tsdale-az/

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They are sometimes even marketing houses as fuck-a-thon getaways:

Here New Zealand:


http://www.christiesrealestate.com/eng/s...reka-lodge



straight to the helicopter and landing on secluded site

Foreplay with booze and coke:


"strip for me Baby"



"Yes my dear - the weekend manager retreat is boring. You have fun with the kids at the cinema."



"Yes - money well spent."

If you don't use your tens of millions in net assets in a similar way, then you are either:

A) A blue pill moron
B) Semi-autistic
C) Highly ethical/spiritual - nothing wrong with that and I respect that

I am semi-ethical - heh. Might bring along my woman for threesome-weekend or sometimes not.

(06-24-2017 04:36 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  If I owned that I'd turn it into "PT's Home For Wayward Girls With Daddy Issues". It would likely take a while to figure out a revenue model though

(06-25-2017 06:59 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  A place that big in my hands would probably end up being used as an elaborate paintball field.

Although if I had that much money I might also consider turning it into a house of horrors and invite random groups of strangers to stay there for a long weekend.

Sounds like mine would have that covered once their periods all synced up

Lawncare is a beautiful and nuanced art.

I just recently started trying my hand at it and it's not as easy as you think. Keeping your lawn evenly fed/watered with the same lush color throughout.

When I first moved in I had huge bare patches. Had some sod thrown down and watered the fuck out of it but it never took. This year I tore the old patches up and laid down a bunch of EZ seed. Watered it heavily for weeks. Sure enough I saw those little fuckers starting to sprout up and it was so rewarding. Now the lawn looks decent but far from perfect. Still have some patches and the new grass that has grown does not perfectly match the grass thats already there but it's a start.

I'd love to start a garden next and grow all the shit that I like. Garlic, carrots, broccoli, potatoes, green beans, and brussel sprouts.

(06-26-2017 12:43 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  If you don't use your tens of millions in net assets in a similar way, then you are either:

A) A blue pill moron
B) Semi-autistic
C) Highly ethical/spiritual - nothing wrong with that and I respect that

I am semi-ethical - heh. Might bring along my woman for threesome-weekend or sometimes not.

People have different tastes. Personally, I simply would not live in a huge mansion requiring hired help regardless of how much money I had. I just don't want strangers running around my home while I'm trying to chill in my boxer shorts. The idea is anathema to me.

Same with yachts. I would not purchase a boat that I could not single hand. If you offered me an $800k 45 footer and a $1.8m 60 footer I would take the 45 footer every time, because the larger boat would require a crew, and requiring a crew kills much of the magic of sailing. I want my splendid isolation!

On the other hand, I'd certainly enjoy pulling up to my date in a million dollar Veyron and taking her to the Grand Suite in the Ritz Carlton afterwards if I had the money to stroke my ego that way. Just because you don't want the hassle of managing super mansions and super yachts doesn't make you blue pill. I guess it's more of an introvert-extrovert dichotomy.

(06-26-2017 12:56 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  Lawncare is a beautiful and nuanced art.

I just recently started trying my hand at it and it's not as easy as you think. Keeping your lawn evenly fed/watered with the same lush color throughout.

Kona about to crash through the skylight to get back into this thread.

Regarding banging women - traditionally in UK a lot of rich guys had their country homes, but they also had a Pied-à-terre in the city to crash at whilst they were in town.

Quote:A pied-à-terre (French pronunciation: ​[pjetaˈtɛʁ]; French for "foot on the ground") is a small living unit usually located in a large city some distance away from an individual's primary residence. It may be an apartment, flat, or condominium.

The term pied-à-terre implies usage as a temporary second residence (but not a vacation home), either for part of the year or part of the work week, by a reasonably wealthy person.

Here's an American example:

Model sues ex-sugar daddy over apartment spat

Quote:A foxy Russian model is suing her ex-sugar daddy, a married real-estate developer, claiming he tried to force her out of his Chelsea pied-à-terre and swiped her diamonds when she stopped sleeping with him.

In a salacious Manhattan Supreme Court lawsuit, Yana Gudkova says developer Brent Carrier, 55, of Larchmont, let her live for free in his posh Chelsea crash pad so she would be his mistress.

The Westchester millionaire kept saying he’d get a divorce, she alleges.

But in late 2015, Gudkova dumped him, after realizing he just wanted her to “be available to him as an occasional intimate companion whenever he wished,” says her lawsuit, which seeks unspecified damages for her lost things and emotional harm.

Carrier — president of Long Island City, Queens-based CRE Development — insists through his lawyer that Gudkova made up her allegations, at least most of them.

Gudkova did live in Carrier’s Chelsea apartment, but only “as a favor,” and the two were never intimate, said the lawyer, Steven Bagwin.

“It was an apartment he didn’t need or want,” Bagwin said.

“She was merely a guest,” he said, and he gave her back all of her belongings when she moved out, he said.

Gudkova, who moved to the US in 2013, is demanding Carrier return her jewelry, her $8,000 Rolex watch, Mac laptop, iPad Mini and a pair of snakeskin purses, one white and one black.

I'm not sure what she has to offer this guy apart from her pussy, so if she's not giving it up, what's the point of her?

(06-26-2017 02:17 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  But in late 2015, Gudkova dumped him, after realizing he just wanted her to “be available to him as an occasional intimate companion whenever he wished,” says her lawsuit, which seeks unspecified damages for her lost things and emotional harm.

If she was playing it that stupid, she's lucky she wasn't strangled with her demand letter.

(06-26-2017 02:33 PM)Jetset Wrote:  

(06-26-2017 02:17 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  But in late 2015, Gudkova dumped him, after realizing he just wanted her to “be available to him as an occasional intimate companion whenever he wished,” says her lawsuit, which seeks unspecified damages for her lost things and emotional harm.

If she was playing it that stupid, she's lucky she wasn't strangled with her demand letter.

If she had attempted that in Russia, she might have risked strangling. But this is America and feminism got to her - women instantly feel more empowered.

Also a pic of the bloke:





If he did not get sex before, then he was a fool.

If she did stop to have sex with him, then he did some dumb moves. All the gifts he gave her are hers, she can legally sue for them - regardless whether she had sex with him or not.

He should not have been so dumb and taken her stuff (looking at the Gamma bloke I can imagine that he may have done so).

It is tricky how to get your former sugarbabe out of the apartment. He should have tried to resolve this nicely. And since it was clear that she would balk, then he would should have said, that it's ok - that they will find a way - she should not worry about it.

Then he should have hired a crew, entered the place when she is not there, exchanged the locks, packed up her stuff, moved it all to a storage locker and her essentials, cosmetics, valuables and some clothes into bags. Then he should have picked 2 burly guys who would wait for her in front of the door with the luggage, a letter with an explanation and a few grand in cash. The burly men should then offer to drive her to a hotel of her choosing.

That is how things are done across the world.

Now he has his name and face plastered across the world in embarrassing news. If he had done what I said above, then the case would have been dismissed instantly.

(06-26-2017 01:21 AM)Sebastian Wrote:  What's the working hours for private chef's? I don't think he can stay from breakfast to dinner? What do they do when they are not cooking something? cleaning the kitchen? do they live onsite?

All depends on the client. Typically the chef does not live onsite. If there is onsite staff accommodation it's usually reserved for the butler.

Typical working hours can be as little as 40 and as high as 80. I'm aware that there are some chef gigs that require on-call status 24/7 but I haven't known any chefs that actually do it. It's common for chefs to create bulk items for the family for breakfast/lunch, and then cook a la carte items for dinner 5-6 nights a week.

At one billionaire's house where I know the chef, the guy gets there at 7am and leaves by 9pm and does that 5-6 days a week. It's a particularly demanding client by industry standards and for their needs they need 2 chefs but they never last very long. There's always a lot of food prep to be done in between meal services and chefs are expected to do basic cleanup with the heavier cleaning tasks done by a maid service.

Quote:People have different tastes. Personally, I simply would not live in a huge mansion requiring hired help regardless of how much money I had. I just don't want strangers running around my home while I'm trying to chill in my boxer shorts. The idea is anathema to me.

At the house I mentioned above, the house staff wear uniforms with the owner's initials monogrammed into their shirts.

When it's dinner time there's a chime that rings through the house. The household runs like a factory. It's the manifestation of one man's complete micromanagement and obsession to detail over every aspect of his life. He's the closest thing to a real life Gail Wynand (The Fountainhead) I've ever seen. It's not relaxed or easygoing at all and I don't understand or relate to it one bit, but perhaps that's why he's a billionaire and I'm not.

(06-26-2017 10:36 AM)debeguiled Wrote:  @Jetset

Do you have a reference link for that house? More details, or is it just a pic from the internet?

I am in your corner with the courtyards.

Well if you like courtyards, maybe take a look at these in the Big Island. http://www.kukio.com/kukio-lot-13.html

As opposed to one actual house, they are really just a series of open air pavilions. I've been in a lot of places like this, there's no other way to live.

Aloha!

(06-25-2017 02:28 PM)Veloce Wrote:  In the handful of billionaire homes I've been (and cooked) in, there's almost always a "show" kitchen. A place for people to gather. Myself I've never understood why at house parties people almost always gather around in the kitchen, must be something instinctive there...anyway the show kitchen is immaculate with state-of-the-art everything...and it never gets used. Adjacent to the show kitchen is a real kitchen where the private chefs work which resembles a much more sleek and polished restaurant kitchen; lots of stainless steel, commercial hood ventilation system, walk-in coolers, commercial dishwashers, etc.

In regards to the bolded section above, people at house parties gather in the kitchen for the following reasons:

1. Kitchens usually have BY FAR the most amount of counter-level surfaces. Counter-level surfaces are really good for setting down your drink AND relaxing b leaning against them (or even sitting on them in the case of girls).
2. Large spaces are actually less welcoming and can be intimidating to approach people in or talk to them in especially when a party is just getting started.
3. The beer and certainly the glassware is almost always in the kitchen.
4. Hosts are often in the kitchen getting glassware or grabbing something for someone, people tend to follow and then talk to people already in the kitchen and then stay.
5. Once a small amount of people are there it will just grow as people like to be "where the action is" and not alone in the living room.

(06-26-2017 04:01 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  It is tricky how to get your former sugarbabe out of the apartment. He should have tried to resolve this nicely. And since it was clear that she would balk, then he would should have said, that it's ok - that they will find a way - she should not worry about it.

Then he should have hired a crew, entered the place when she is not there, exchanged the locks, packed up her stuff, moved it all to a storage locker and her essentials, cosmetics, valuables and some clothes into bags. Then he should have picked 2 burly guys who would wait for her in front of the door with the luggage, a letter with an explanation and a few grand in cash. The burly men should then offer to drive her to a hotel of her choosing.

That is how things are done across the world.

Now he has his name and face plastered across the world in embarrassing news. If he had done what I said above, then the case would have been dismissed instantly.

That's all he needed to do. No need for even the burly men. Just put her shit in a storage space, send her a text

"All your personal belongings have been removed from the premises located at (123 XYZ Ave) and placed in storage. The appropriate authorities have been notiofied and any attempt to re enter said premises will constitute trespassing statute A9,3 sub article 212 (bullshit out of your ass) and be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

Your personal property is located at U-A hoe storage located at Goldigger Pl Unit 69 which has been pre-paid for 30 days. The lock combination is 34-22-36 D. If you have any questions please direct them to my attorney Saul Goodman at 555-555-FUOW)"

All embellishment and joking aside: Once she's dispossesed of the property she would of had almost zero leverage

Depends, in some states once a person has been in a dwelling for 30+ days they are considered to be residents/tenants and you have to formally evict them. Shutting the power off would get you in trouble, not sure about the "locking them out" thing. It's legal in some places but not allowed in some states. This being NYC, the whore would be hard to kick out using street methods.

Also, she knew what the guy was worth so paying her to leave was not going to be "money in an envelope" kind of deal.

WNB based on first picture, WB based on hoesiry and heels pic.

(06-27-2017 12:33 AM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  Depends, in some states once a person has been in a dwelling for 30+ days they are considered to be residents/tenants and you have to formally evict them. Shutting the power off would get you in trouble, not sure about the "locking them out" thing. It's legal in some places but not allowed in some states. This being NYC, the whore would be hard to kick out using street methods.

Also, she knew what the guy was worth so paying her to leave was not going to be "money in an envelope" kind of deal.

WNB based on first picture, WB based on hoesiry and heels pic.

In the US most state property laws define possession as the control a person intentionally exercises toward a thing. In all cases, to possess something, a person must have an intention to possess it. A person may be in possession of some property (although possession does not always imply ownership)

By locking her out you now put the "burden" of right to possession on her. In other words now she has to use the legal system to prove she has the right to be there.

Is it legal? NO...Is it effective?

Fuck yeah it is. Why? Because :

1. He's the titled (rightful) owner Once she's out (lost possession) she's lost 99.999 % of advantage

2. Most deadbeat moochers dont have the financial wherewithal to fight a possession case once they are out because they're fucking deadbeat moochers and now have to figure out where to live and how to pay / scam for that

(06-26-2017 04:01 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  He should have hired a crew, entered the place when she is not there, exchanged the locks, packed up her stuff, moved it all to a storage locker and her essentials, cosmetics, valuables and some clothes into bags. Then he should have picked 2 burly guys who would wait for her in front of the door with the luggage, a letter with an explanation and a few grand in cash. The burly men should then offer to drive her to a hotel of her choosing.

People are always bitching that they want to start a business but all the good ideas are already taken.

Well bitch no more.

(06-26-2017 07:32 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  In regards to the bolded section above, people at house parties gather in the kitchen for the following reasons:

1. Kitchens usually have BY FAR the most amount of counter-level surfaces. Counter-level surfaces are really good for setting down your drink AND relaxing b leaning against them (or even sitting on them in the case of girls).
2. Large spaces are actually less welcoming and can be intimidating to approach people in or talk to them in especially when a party is just getting started.
3. The beer and certainly the glassware is almost always in the kitchen.
4. Hosts are often in the kitchen getting glassware or grabbing something for someone, people tend to follow and then talk to people already in the kitchen and then stay.
5. Once a small amount of people are there it will just grow as people like to be "where the action is" and not alone in the living room.

These are the reasons why I want an apartment with a kitchen the blends seamlessly into the living room. I see no reason to keep them separate, aside from the heat and noxious gases sometimes generated from cooking.

However, if you can keep those things from presenting a problem, being able to interact with your guests while engaging in kitchen functions, your potential to game the hotties over the course of whatever party or even you are hosting increases 10 fold.

(1) You get to show off your cooking skills.

(2) You don't miss out on being the center of attention if you get stuck in the kitchen.

(3) It's easier to get girl involved in "helping you" with cooking tasks. On the downside, if the kitchen isn't a separate room, you don't have the option to isolate. However, in my experiences being a host, this is a very minor benefit.

I've gained more from simply having a small seating area away from the crowd that I can isolate girls to for 10 minutes of 1 on 1 time, because sending her back to the party. And of course, your master bedroom, is certainly more than suitable for isolation at other stages in the game.

(06-27-2017 12:47 AM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

(06-27-2017 12:33 AM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  Depends, in some states once a person has been in a dwelling for 30+ days they are considered to be residents/tenants and you have to formally evict them. Shutting the power off would get you in trouble, not sure about the "locking them out" thing. It's legal in some places but not allowed in some states. This being NYC, the whore would be hard to kick out using street methods.

Also, she knew what the guy was worth so paying her to leave was not going to be "money in an envelope" kind of deal.

WNB based on first picture, WB based on hoesiry and heels pic.

In the US most state property laws define possession as the control a person intentionally exercises toward a thing. In all cases, to possess something, a person must have an intention to possess it. A person may be in possession of some property (although possession does not always imply ownership)

By locking her out you now put the "burden" of right to possession on her. In other words now she has to use the legal system to prove she has the right to be there.

Is it legal? NO...Is it effective?

Fuck yeah it is. Why? Because :

1. He's the titled (rightful) owner Once she's out (lost possession) she's lost 99.999 % of advantage

2. Most deadbeat moochers dont have the financial wherewithal to fight a possession case once they are out because they're fucking deadbeat moochers and now have to figure out where to live and how to pay / scam for that

Yeah - there are plenty of legal and far more half-legal possibilities, but squatters usually don't have much chance with sufficiently wealthy clients. She would need to be there non-stop or some very motivated friends, there are a great number of things that wealthy people can do to evict unwanted guests or squatters - especially when someone does not expect any such move in the first place. If you stop paying electricity, gas and water, then it is perfectly legal, because it is your place and she has no legal recourse to force you to pay the bills in your place. I doubt that she would have wanted to live there like a caveman.

(06-27-2017 01:48 AM)Suits Wrote:  

(06-26-2017 04:01 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  He should have hired a crew, entered the place when she is not there, exchanged the locks, packed up her stuff, moved it all to a storage locker and her essentials, cosmetics, valuables and some clothes into bags. Then he should have picked 2 burly guys who would wait for her in front of the door with the luggage, a letter with an explanation and a few grand in cash. The burly men should then offer to drive her to a hotel of her choosing.

People are always bitching that they want to start a business but all the good ideas are already taken.

Well bitch no more.

Hell, Suits. You even gave them a name for the business.

"Bitch no more™"

I have no problem with the guy picking up some hood niggaz with baseball bats from the Bronx and persuading her to move out. Or showing up with crooked NYPD pigglets and giving her a good time.

I was rather mentioning why he took the avenue he took instead of doing what was suggested on the thread.

(06-27-2017 03:05 AM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  I have no problem with the guy picking up some hood niggaz with baseball bats from the Bronx and persuading her to move out. Or showing up with crooked NYPD pigglets and giving her a good time.

I was rather mentioning why he took the avenue he took instead of doing what was suggested on the thread.

He isn't a RVF member...else he would of asked

(06-26-2017 07:18 PM)Kona Wrote:  Well if you like courtyards, maybe take a look at these in the Big Island. http://www.kukio.com/kukio-lot-13.html

As opposed to one actual house, they are really just a series of open air pavilions. I've been in a lot of places like this, there's no other way to live.

Aloha!

Thank you Kona.

You have distracted me from your lawn, and now I am obsessed with island breezeways and trade wind pavilions.

Could you email some trade winds to Oregon?