Post: #1

In the same spirit of the "Would You Accept A Gay Son" thread, i'm putting this questions out there.

Imagine you're a proud doting father of a cute, innocent-looking young thing. If you're reading this here, then you're red-pill aware, raise your child with a firm but loving hand without putting the pussy on a pedestal.

Then you pick up on the rumors... someone saw a photo of her on social media whoring it up. Maybe she's got an account on an "arrangement" site. But you think, no, no my little girl.

Then you are confronted with proof. Maybe you hire a PI to look into it to remove all doubt, or even on of her friends lets slip the truth. Screenshots with "services offered" and a price list to boot. Your little princess is a raging cockslut.

How do you react? What do you do?

Post: #2

I used to have a work relationship with an older man who's daughter had quite a bit of success in the pornography business. She also had most of the testicles on Oahu, mine included, in her mouth at one point or another.

Whenever someone would bring the daughter up around him he would almost shut down with depression. It was really unfortunate because she would come dance at strip clubs, and they put ads in the sports page featuring her. The way he spoke, he still loved his daughter, but felt quite shamed by her career path. I felt really sorry for him.

This man was mostly Filipino, and quite a bit older than his wife, and really old to have a daughter the porn sluts age. He always seemed to me like a sweet good hearted older fella who's child had strayed, and he just had to accept it. Interestingly, his son is flaming gay.

One day I saw him drink a beer really sneakily in the middle of the day. I searched him on the court website. It was shocking. The dude had a massive history of abuse if a household member, restraining orders, duis, and had actually been aquitted of a heavy assault charge on his own mother. These Filipinos tend to live multi-generatonally.

I determined that while on the outside he appeared to me to be a nice guy, to his family he was probably a monster. He created the whore daughter, and had to deal with the shame.

My point here is, sometimes a kid will stray and disappoint, but mostly it seems like they are the product of their upbringing.

Aloha!

Post: #3

Completely agree with Kona above. If you have a daughter and she goes off the rails you've either had so little input in her life that she has sought other, negative areas for her cultural rearing OR you have failed as a father. So, you should be looking inwards more than anything. Though I hear it all the time from parents as to their wayward children, "It must have been the drugs.", "Oh, it was that Terry who was a bad influence on him." Never have I heard parents question what went on in the home they lived in for all of their childhood.

In answer to the question: Would you accept a whore daughter?

To not accept her is to reject your own responsibility.

Whenever you hear about any of the particular crazies in the world, people like Eliot Roger, Robin Williams, Kurt Cobain... you always find they had particularly dysfunctional childhoods.

If you want high functioning children who will steer clear of bad paths, there can be no violence, no affairs, no emotional manipulation, no isolation, no divorce. You need to give them a model for functional relationships and not one in which they accept being part of negative relationships. Just as predatory animals stalk the physically weak, human predators stalk those with inadequate bonds with their care givers. It goes both ways. A child with inadequate parental bonds will be seeking connection and have less idea of what is and more accepting of dysfunctional behaviour; and a predator looks for the physical and verbals cues that such a child displays. Functional people tend to eject dysfunctional people from their social orbit. If you are a functional parent it's much less likely that your children will come into contact with abusive people and if they do more likely to sense the danger in their behaviour and remove themselves from person.

The more you go towards dysfunctional childhoods the more you go towards everything bad you can think of in later life: prostitution, drug use, porn, homelessness, alcoholism, self harm...

"As many as two-thirds of all people in treatment for drug abuse report that they were physically, sexually, or emotionally abused during childhood" - National Institute on Drug Abuse

I've heard much higher figures for hard drugs, virtually all of them. And that's self reported.

"TWO-THIRDS of people in a national study of homelessness suffered physical or sexual violence as children or had been neglected or emotionally abused. About one-third had been sexually assaulted." - Australia

On whoring:

"The study found that the major risk factors for causes of death in adults, smoking, alcohol abuse, obesity, physical inactivity, use of illicit drugs, promiscuity, and suicide attempts, were all increased by ACEs (adverse childhood experiences). Compared with persons with an ACE score of 0, those with an ACE score of 4 or more were twice as likely to be smokers, 12 times more likely to have attempted suicide, 7 times more likely to be alcoholic, and 10 times more likely to have injected street drugs".

If I remember correctly there ACE score can go up to 11 or 12.

Post: #4

(11-17-2017 06:37 PM)Kona Wrote:  My point here is, sometimes a kid will stray and disappoint, but mostly it seems like they are the product of their upbringing.

Aloha!

No, but as Kona rightly states, I would look at myself first if that was to be the case and look at where I went wrong in bringing a daughter up.

Post: #5

I met a topless dancer in a workshop a couple weeks ago. She was also another business venture on the side.

I totally encouraged her to keep her job as a topless dancer. She didn't like it, but I told her it was probably better than a real job. If my daughter made enough money in the sex industry to retire at the age of 30, I would congratulate her.

It depends a lot on what kind of "whore" she is. If she is just making a living, good for her.

Post: #6

In this case, the impact of a bad mother could have more of an effect on a woman turning out to be a massive slut than the father's impact, just like bad fathering has more of an effect on boys turning into homos.

E. Michael Jones talks about the effects of parenting here, has also put forth the theory that your belief in God also hinges on your relationship with your father and the role he's had in your life, pointing out that guys like Hitchens, Dawkins or Nietzsche had weak or absent father figures.

Post: #7

Thank you to the first few gents for giving their two cents.

I get the line that "it's your fault if your kids turn out wrong". In the gay thread, much has been said of homos having a higher rate of abuse by their parents. "Stop abusing your kids", that's an easy one for most normal people.

So you spare the rod and spoil the child. What if they still become gay/whore?

Do you blame your wife?
Do you blame the schools you took them to that propagandized their brains?
Do you blame media?
Do you blame their friends? Their parents?
Do you blame God?

I imagine my first reaction would be blind rage. I imagine I would yell and rant, saying I did not raise you to become like this, to be a tool to be used and paid for by weak men just so you can go into debt to buy overpriced useless fashion goods made in China...

Then if I think further... who can one blame? Can a father be expected to protect his child from his wife, their schools, their friends, or fate... things I have no control over?

With this in mind, I would imagine my reaction to be a more measured, simmering rage. So you're a whore now. Fine. You disgust me. Leave. Get out of my sight.

I imagine my wife would bawl and tear her hair out. Am I man enough to put my foot down firmly and command her to be silent? I would tell her, the child has become an adult, she chose her path, now she will have to live with the consequences. She is our concern no longer. You know too that what she chose is wrong, but we cannot save her now. God have mercy.

I might pray, meditate. Life is short and does not always give you what you want. The only meaning it has is what you choose to find in it.

Thankfully I'm not married with children, yet. But each day I feel I must prepare myself for the worst.

Post: #8

My mate has two kids.

One is a intelligent, successful, moral and hard working person.

The other is a lazy, degenerate failure in life.

Same parents, same parenting style.

I'm not saying parental influence isn't a factor, but there is also something within a child that shapes its own destiny.

Post: #9

The apple don't fall far from the tree

Post: #10

I think the majority of whores are produced by parenting, but there's definitely a genetic factor as well. Some kids are just born with a general indifference towards social norms and a compulsion for thrill seeking behavior

Post: #11

(11-17-2017 06:19 PM)RedBeanWarrior Wrote:  snip
Imagine you're a proud doting father of a cute, innocent-looking young thing. If you're reading this here, then you're red-pill aware, raise your child with a firm but loving hand without putting the pussy on a pedestal..
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Then you are confronted with proof. Maybe you hire a PI to look into it to remove all doubt, or even on of her friends lets slip the truth. Screenshots with "services offered" and a price list to boot. Your little princess is a raging cockslut.

How do you react? What do you do?

Based on the scenario presented, and assuming that "accept" means "be ok with" my answer is the same as the gay son thread:

Quote:No I wouldn't I'd kick him out of my house.

Probably slap her too if had the gall to protest my decision to disown her too.

You can't discount peer pressure and mainstream culture, unless you homeschool and keep the girl lock in the house with no TV or internet. No parent is around their kid 24/7

Everything fucked that happens to someone isn't their parents fault. If that were case, then my parents owe me dozens of apologies for the times that they grounded/beat me...afterall I only did what I did because they raised me that way. So they should've hit or grounded themselves!

For the "parent's fault your daughter's hoe" people at what point do people develop agency and the ability exercise free will?

I would take some responsibility but c'mon, I didn't put dudes in that room to run train on her. She chose to do that. Some men are raised beta get no ass for 25+ years, learn game and smash tonnes of puss, childhood experience isn't destiny. Her bring a profession dick-squatter must be a combination of factors.

Quote: Maybe you hire a PI to look into it to remove all doubt

I'm not going to hire a PI to call and fuck my daughter. Since he's using my money to do it, that's almost vicarious incest.

Post: #12

I'd tell her to stick to just camwhoring so she doesn't get a disease.

Post: #13

(11-20-2017 06:11 PM)RatInTheWoods Wrote:  My mate has two kids.
One is a intelligent, successful, moral and hard working person.
The other is a lazy, degenerate failure in life.
Same parents, same parenting style.
I'm not saying parental influence isn't a factor, but there is also something within a child that shapes its own destiny.

My parents raised both my sister and I. Being a boy they were very hard on me, forcing me to work all the time. My sister laid around the house. She turned into a fat lazy slob. I turned into a hard working success. Same parents, different parenting styles.

See, each kid has their own personality and parents need to adjust to that. My parents could not cope with my sisters personality. She needed them to be hardasses and instead they raised her like a princess. I was much easier to deal with so they were able to make me work.

Post: #14

(11-18-2017 01:43 PM)puckerman Wrote:  I met a topless dancer in a workshop a couple weeks ago. She was also another business venture on the side.

I totally encouraged her to keep her job as a topless dancer. She didn't like it, but I told her it was probably better than a real job. If my daughter made enough money in the sex industry to retire at the age of 30, I would congratulate her.

It depends a lot on what kind of "whore" she is. If she is just making a living, good for her.

The topless dancer doesn't know much about saving, from every 100 girls who are in it to save an retire....only 2 accomplish it. The others get drug up in the lifestyle (drugs, alcohol, whoring, lifestyle inflation).

Even those who manage to save, it's hard to return to the normie life after you've lived large.

Post: #15

(11-18-2017 06:33 PM)911 Wrote:  In this case, the impact of a bad mother could have more of an effect on a woman turning out to be a massive slut than the father's impact, just like bad fathering has more of an effect on boys turning into homos.

E. Michael Jones talks about the effects of parenting here, has also put forth the theory that your belief in God also hinges on your relationship with your father and the role he's had in your life, pointing out that guys like Hitchens, Dawkins or Nietzsche had weak or absent father figures.

Absolutely.

Post: #16

I'd regard it as a failure on my part, and not blame her for my inability to instil good morals and a strong sense of dignity.

Post: #17

(11-18-2017 01:43 PM)puckerman Wrote:  I met a topless dancer in a workshop a couple weeks ago. She was also another business venture on the side.

I totally encouraged her to keep her job as a topless dancer. She didn't like it, but I told her it was probably better than a real job. If my daughter made enough money in the sex industry to retire at the age of 30, I would congratulate her.

It depends a lot on what kind of "whore" she is. If she is just making a living, good for her.

My thoughts. I never thought this before listening to the Gavin McInnes Show interviews with Mercedes Carrera. Plenty of audio there where you realize she's incredibly intelligent and had a good upbringing, she just is somewhat autistic for a woman and sees sex a bit like a dude. (I know most guys will think I'm crazy, but you'd have to go listen to her before judging my assessment)

All that said though, 98% of strippers and porn stars are not an anomaly. They were fucked up by their parents in some way.

If I had a daughter with a caring mother who was there for her, and I'd provided for them, and I'd been there, and she became a whore...I don't think I'd beat myself up much.

It's the ultimate question of outcome independence. Be self-effacing and honest about your strategy and tactics, but life doesn't always play out exactly how you want.

Edit: Especially now with what we know of biology. I would simply wonder why her mother had a surge of testosterone when the daughter was in the womb that caused her to see sex in such a narrow view. I would wonder more of the "why" than feeling shameful about it.

Post: #18

If she is an adult and not living under my roof then it is up to her.