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Appropriate Opener in Tough Spot
A few months ago I had a date set up with a tinderella, solid 8 and sweet. She cancelled on apparently legitimate grounds. Second time rolls around and repeat. At this point I know the explanation is possibly that I am lower value in her eyes but she is interested in setting up another date and I am confident it will go well so I'm just chilling and agree to it. She ghosts the day of and reappears two days later claiming she dropped her phone in the hot tub. A day later I reply that I am not opposed to having sex with her some time. She goes semi-bezerk but I just keep repeating variations on what I originally said basically, and she gets more bezerk. I am simply amusing myself at this point. Last exchange is an all caps fuck you from her. A few days ago I swipe her right and we matched just now. It is reasonable to assume she was aware of who I was when she was swiping. If that is the case then the reframe I pulled turned her on.

What is a good opener strategy here?
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11-24-2017 11:57 PM
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(11-24-2017 11:57 PM)aletheia Wrote:  turned her on.

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11-25-2017 12:00 AM
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RE: Appropriate Opener in Tough Spot
Not really another likely explanation TBH and I acknowledged the possibility of there being another one. Add something substantive or move along.
11-25-2017 12:09 AM
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Whats most likely is that you made so little impression on her that she doesnt even remember you.... A momentary annoyance in a world full of fleeting stimuli. After all she blew you off several times yet she still has your attention...undoubtedly significantly more than you have hers

Your post suggests a lack of "real world" experience with actual women nd lack of understanding of their attraction mechanisms.

if youre so certain you've "turned her on" with your antics then what are you waiting for?...set up a date.

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11-25-2017 02:20 AM
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RE: Appropriate Opener in Tough Spot
'Next' even doesn't apply here. Approach women in real life, make them feel a little threatened, a little uncomfortable. Online is stacked against you.

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She nexted you. Accept it and move on.
11-25-2017 08:27 AM
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Here's some advice: move on to other women dude.

This much thought into one woman (you havent banged) will make your game worse not better.

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Some wrongheaded impressions here along with maybe a weak point or two. She responded and I have her number again.

/later
11-25-2017 12:32 PM
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Our impressions are based on the info you provided and life experience. If there;s some significant details missing from your op then by all means fill us in.

Else let us know what banging her number feels like

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(11-25-2017 02:04 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  Our impressions are based on the info you provided and life experience. If there;s some significant details missing from your op then by all means fill us in.

...like an autism diagnosis.
11-25-2017 03:27 PM
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No one told me what I wanted to hear so I'm taking my ball and going home. Wah!

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11-25-2017 03:35 PM
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(11-25-2017 03:27 PM)Rhyme or Reason Wrote:  
(11-25-2017 02:04 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  Our impressions are based on the info you provided and life experience. If there;s some significant details missing from your op then by all means fill us in.

...like an autism diagnosis.

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"The big question is whether you are going to be able to say a hearty yes to your adventure."
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RE: Appropriate Opener in Tough Spot
A lot of advice on this board is not what we want to hear, like taking the red pill. However, It is sound advice in your best interest, Woman is fickle and just because you "reframed" doesn't mean you're going to get her out on a date. Matter a fact I can almost guarantee you she is going to flake on you again. She is using you to show off to her friends what a "creep" you are. If we are taking the time to respond it is probably in your best interest to put the advice in action.

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11-25-2017 05:40 PM
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RE: Appropriate Opener in Tough Spot
(11-25-2017 05:40 PM)S3K2 Wrote:  A lot of advice on this board is not what we want to hear, like taking the red pill. However, It is sound advice in your best interest, Woman is fickle and just because you "reframed" doesn't mean you're going to get her out on a date. Matter a fact I can almost guarantee you she is going to flake on you again. She is using you to show off to her friends what a "creep" you are. If we are taking the time to respond it is probably in your best interest to put the advice in action.

Maybe not even using you for that much.

A lesson a bunch of us have learned is that for women you match with online, until you meet up you're not a person, you're just digital bits on a screen. You haven't "turned her on" except in the sense that you are an interesting smartphone game, a handheld form of prosaic pornography.

That explains a lot of the flaking over and above the standard flake baseline - they have a dozen other ways to stimulate themselves any given day (including options on the swipe apps) and there's no sense of commitment to another person's time.

You have to view them mentally as completely imaginary beings or bots until you see them in meatspace and can work a real human connection. That's exactly how they view you.
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