david.garrett84
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Harvard Says Rating The Attractiveness Of Women Makes You Complicit In Rape
I'm pretty sure this guy is Australian, but you can have him, America.
Yes, it's one article from The Harvard Crimson, but his is a view found across the entire campus.
Quote:As a male student at the Harvard Kennedy School, I have readily joined the chorus condemning Weinstein and Moore’s disgusting abuse of power. But concentrating criticism on these (rightly) vilified perpetrators reveals a problem with our approach to sexual assault. We are only focusing on some of the people who are responsible for sexual assault. We are ignoring, for example, people like me.
Here’s an example to illustrate what I mean. During Orientation Week in August of 2016, I was out late drinking in Harvard Square with two classmates. The topic switched to the women in our class. Over the drunken hum of the bar’s collective conversation, one guy proposed the “hottest” girls in our class [The closest thing Harvard has to a shitlord]. The other did the same. They both then asked me to rank the girls in our cohort in the order I wanted to get with. My alarmed heart bolted blood to my cheeks. I crossed my arms, unable to speak. “Are we making you uncomfortable?” one asked me. I cannot remember my exact response. But it was not: “Yes. Objectifying women, even though it seems harmless to you, demeans them and creates an environment that makes sexual assault more likely.” Instead, I uncrossed my arms, I shook my head, and yes, I discussed which girls were hot.
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My silence that night—and in other moments—meant I accepted those comments and therefore an environment of disrespecting women. The same environment in which 87 percent of women aged 18 to 25 have experienced sexual harassment and half of all women are sexually harassed in American workplaces. My silence lies on a continuum of complicity—complicity that allows sexual assault to occur.
Rape is not a funny topic, but if this sexual assault rate he cites (31%) is so accurate, parents sending their daughters to Harvard are hilariously ignorant child abusers. "I'm sending my girl to Harvard, where she'll have a 1 in 3 chance of being raped! So proud!"
You definitely wouldn't send your daughter to get milk from the store if she had a 1 in 3 chance of being raped.
And is getting an erection without getting a woman's permission objectifying her, too, to the point of being complicit in rape?
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RE: Harvard Says Rating The Attractiveness Of Women Makes You Complicit In Rape
I find this mindset hilarious....they can't emotionally distinguish between attraction and assault.
Almost like they have no concept of impulse control over their own rapey thoughts or something.
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RE: Harvard Says Rating The Attractiveness Of Women Makes You Complicit In Rape
At the very least, this guy should be thrown out of Harvard for rape. I'm sure one of his former partners will be happy to accuse him.
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RE: Harvard Says Rating The Attractiveness Of Women Makes You Complicit In Rape
FWIW he's being murdered in the comments. The top comment:
Quote:I'm glad you confessed your sin of considering women sexually attractive and discussing it. You should have known your only role is to provide sperm to a woman who deems you worthy of fathering her child and providing her and them financial support. Any desire on your part is tantamount to rape.
I just wish other men were as woke as you are.
Another gem:
Quote:I've seen a lot of half-baked op eds by greenhorn college students, but this really takes the cake. And I hope some people find the phrase "takes the cake" as sexually offensive.
I'm surprised they didn't disable comments on this article. The neo-puritans are generally too afraid to confront open dialogue.
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RE: Harvard Says Rating The Attractiveness Of Women Makes You Complicit In Rape
(12-16-2017 01:45 PM)david.garrett84 Wrote: I'm pretty sure this guy is Australian, but you can have him, America.
Yes, it's one article from The Harvard Crimson, but his is a view found across the entire campus.
Quote:As a male student at the Harvard Kennedy School, I have readily joined the chorus condemning Weinstein and Moore’s disgusting abuse of power. But concentrating criticism on these (rightly) vilified perpetrators reveals a problem with our approach to sexual assault. We are only focusing on some of the people who are responsible for sexual assault. We are ignoring, for example, people like me.
Here’s an example to illustrate what I mean. During Orientation Week in August of 2016, I was out late drinking in Harvard Square with two classmates. The topic switched to the women in our class. Over the drunken hum of the bar’s collective conversation, one guy proposed the “hottest” girls in our class [The closest thing Harvard has to a shitlord]. The other did the same. They both then asked me to rank the girls in our cohort in the order I wanted to get with. My alarmed heart bolted blood to my cheeks. I crossed my arms, unable to speak. “Are we making you uncomfortable?” one asked me. I cannot remember my exact response. But it was not: “Yes. Objectifying women, even though it seems harmless to you, demeans them and creates an environment that makes sexual assault more likely.” Instead, I uncrossed my arms, I shook my head, and yes, I discussed which girls were hot.
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My silence that night—and in other moments—meant I accepted those comments and therefore an environment of disrespecting women. The same environment in which 87 percent of women aged 18 to 25 have experienced sexual harassment and half of all women are sexually harassed in American workplaces. My silence lies on a continuum of complicity—complicity that allows sexual assault to occur.
Rape is not a funny topic, but if this sexual assault rate he cites (31%) is so accurate, parents sending their daughters to Harvard are hilariously ignorant child abusers. "I'm sending my girl to Harvard, where she'll have a 1 in 3 chance of being raped! So proud!"
You definitely wouldn't send your daughter to get milk from the store if she had a 1 in 3 chance of being raped.
And is getting an erection without getting a woman's permission objectifying her, too, to the point of being complicit in rape?
Kind of like the general rule that you should assume a woman who doesn't file a police report is lying about rape, any of these typists who start off their "article" with the phrase: "as a [insert immutable characteristic]" is full of it. It is either used as a victim flag, "only I as a [blank] can understand the role of [blank] in society," or, as in this article it is used as an excuse to shit all over your own group (strictly males, straights, and/or whites).
It seems as if these stupid so-called writers did not read enough actual literature when they were younger. Otherwise they would have a better developed empathy from good books where you can put yourself in the shoes of the protagonist - whether different gender, race, or from a different historical or future time.
I am not a black woman raised by a single mother in the hood, but that doesn't mean I can't empathize and find common ground (without surrendering my own strong beliefs and sense of identity), to agree on things we can agree on and disagree on others.
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RE: Harvard Says Rating The Attractiveness Of Women Makes You Complicit In Rape
(12-16-2017 06:20 PM)eljeffster Wrote: any of these typists who start off their "article" with the phrase: "as a [insert immutable characteristic]" is full of it. It is either used as a victim flag, "only I as a [blank] can understand the role of [blank] in society," or, as in this article it is used as an excuse to shit all over your own group (strictly males, straights, and/or whites).
This is the reason "mansplaining" is a thing. It's all about identity politics. Only your in-group is able to even fully understand the issue. The other side should just sit with lips buttoned and be shamed, scolded, controlled. There's no movement on the issues this way, just polarization and power-politics.
The male-feminists are annoying in how they try to pretend they're one of the chosen few who are allowed to speak on women's behalf. I don't think anyone other than Phil Donahue can claim to be an honest to goodness male feminist rather than a beta white-knight looking for red-haired poosy.
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RE: Harvard Says Rating The Attractiveness Of Women Makes You Complicit In Rape
It's 2025. The author of this piece had been promoted through the ranks of the Social Justice Stasi and is now warden of the Greater Californian Masculinity Re-education Gulag. Yet now he sits, tied to a chair in the middle of a small dark room. Three men enter from behind him and two take their place at the door. The third circles around and squats in front of him.
"Let's make this quick", he says. "You've got 32 former RVF members in your facility and many more heroes of the Chad Uprising besides. You're going to tell us everything about your facility. Codes. Routes of access. Everything."
The captive remains defiant. "Or what? You'll pull out my nails with pliers? Break my fingers? Give it your best shot, you primitive relics!"
The captor sighs and pulls a chair over from the corner of the room, sitting heavily.
"No, we're not going to do anything like that", he consoles the now-sobbing prisoner. "I'm just going to telly you a story. One of many I'm going to share with you, but this one in particular? It's about the time I seduced a woman during a drunken house party using nothing but the imprint of my erection in my jeans..."
"You wouldn't", the warden gasps!
"It was the summer of '99 and I was deciding whether to throw out my old jeans. Leg days had caused them to become precariously tight, but very fortunately I decided I'd give them one last run..."
Distantly, tortured screams echoed through the abandoned warehouse.
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RE: Harvard Says Rating The Attractiveness Of Women Makes You Complicit In Rape
Posted previously by one of the other members, but always worth a reprint.
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