Post: #1

Evening gentlemen.

I'm going out with a 26 y/o traveling physical therapist who recently broke up with her boyfriend. She's suffering with depression, which I believe can play to my advantage, but I want to improve my game before meeting up with her this afternoon.

We're planning to meet up at a cafe for coffee. My agenda? Smash. If I like her enough, maybe I'll consider a LTR. Anyway, I need advice on the following questions.

1.) What's the best way to escalate as I'm naturally introverted and usually don't talk very much.

2.) What are the best ways to make her laugh?

3.) Thanks to Models by Mark Manson, I'm getting decent at presenting how I move, reactions and body language which peeks a girl's interest in me (that's how I got her number). However, I believe I could use some improvement. Any suggestions?

Post: #2

Quote:We're planning to meet up at a cafe for coffee. My agenda? Smash.

You're setting yourself up for failure if your plan is to transition from 'coffee' to 'fuck.

Post: #3

Just chill out and enjoy the moment, if she accepted to go out with you she is interested. I wouldn't think to any strategy before since it may be ruin the moment, if for example you are thinking to strategy and not to have fun. Try to make her feel comfortable with you, you can try to treat her like a little girl, making fun of her a little bit.... try to get the chance to touch her gently and kiss her.

Just pay attention to a 26 years old woman who suffered from depression......

Post: #4

(02-08-2018 03:07 PM)Rhyme or Reason Wrote:  

Quote:We're planning to meet up at a cafe for coffee. My agenda? Smash.

You're setting yourself up for failure if your plan is to transition from 'coffee' to 'fuck.

Yeah, the cafe isn't exactly a sexual atmosphere lol.

Any suggestions?

Post: #5

(02-08-2018 03:20 PM)Hegemon1984 Wrote:  

(02-08-2018 03:07 PM)Rhyme or Reason Wrote:  

Quote:We're planning to meet up at a cafe for coffee. My agenda? Smash.

You're setting yourself up for failure if your plan is to transition from 'coffee' to 'fuck.

Yeah, the cafe isn't exactly a sexual atmosphere lol.

Any suggestions?

Meeting her in the evening/night in a pub-cocktails bar with a sofa where you can sit close to her for escalation could be better, also few alcoholic drinks can help... Or dancing if you like it.
but.... if you want to fuck her the first date you must be a pro... so I wouldn't care so much... if you have also already set the date at coffee go there.

Post: #6

(02-08-2018 03:13 PM)ìlikegirls Wrote:  Just chill out and enjoy the moment. [...] I wouldn't think to any strategy before since it may be ruin the moment [...].

“All the world over it is true that a double-minded man is unstable in all his ways, like a wave on the streamlet, tossed hither and thither with every eddy of its tide. A determinate purpose in life and a steady adhesion to it through all disadvantages, are indispensable conditions of success.” -- W.M. Punshon

Post: #7

(02-08-2018 03:20 PM)Hegemon1984 Wrote:  

(02-08-2018 03:07 PM)Rhyme or Reason Wrote:  

Quote:We're planning to meet up at a cafe for coffee. My agenda? Smash.

You're setting yourself up for failure if your plan is to transition from 'coffee' to 'fuck.

Yeah, the cafe isn't exactly a sexual atmosphere lol.

Any suggestions?

Actually, café can be an excellent start (though not all cafés are created equal). A skilled seducer can lure a weak-maybe girl to a café, for she thinks it's just a quick chat to break with monotony of the mid-week, she lets her guard down, and innocent 30 minutes change into a few hours of hopping from bright café to a bar to a dark, seedy dive just across from your house...

Without a plan, you're setting up yourself for a failure. Even such a simple thing as commuting to work requires a plan - when to leave, what transport, which route. A date is a vastly more complex beast. Whatever you do, one thing is a cornerstone, indisputable and a necessary step - you need to escalate verbally and physically. Only with practice you'll know how much and where but without it you can just as well stay home.

Krauser's date model is the best I know of and more or less I follow it. Certainly, I learnt a lot. You can find it's bare-bones here. It's from a few years back but it's good to learn the ropes. In his latest book there's much more to it and faster.

In his latest book, Daygame Infinite, he discusses date tactics and strategy at length, some 150 pages. Pricey, but worth the money in my opinion.

Post: #8

A traveling PT isn't looking for an LTR, especially one that got out of a relationship.

The fact you hardly know her and she told you she's suffering from depression is a red flag and NOT ltr material.

Your best bet is a lounge or a dive bar with her - keeps her isolated and focused on you- while the atmosphere is fun and relaxing.

Last thing I want is coffee, I'd want a nice drink and good company.

Funny stories about yourself, places you've been, friends you're with are always good, if you can do some light teasing even better.

The best is when you play bar games, darts, pool, shuffle board, are all great ways to kino and tease her.
Women love to talk, so guide the conversation with questions, let her do all the talking.

Post: #9

(02-08-2018 03:20 PM)Hegemon1984 Wrote:  

(02-08-2018 03:07 PM)Rhyme or Reason Wrote:  

Quote:We're planning to meet up at a cafe for coffee. My agenda? Smash.

You're setting yourself up for failure if your plan is to transition from 'coffee' to 'fuck.

Yeah, the cafe isn't exactly a sexual atmosphere lol.

Any suggestions?

Just one

Deviate at your own peril

Post: #10

I've seen your other thread asking help for text game.... at the end will you date the girl or not?

Post: #11

Afternoon dates work only if you are sure she has nothing else planned afterwards . A girl asking for an afternoon has something planned for the evening probably with a guy. If I were in this scenario I would either try to change for the evening or a different day. Otherwise just expect to be nothing but friends