Post: #1

Hi,

Here, I often read posts from forum members who went to venue/city/country XYZ claiming it was full of men with no gaming skills. The guys might be jacked, even show wealth, but have no game. It could be college parties, a club in eastern Europe etc. At these venues I assume that men are interacting with girls in some way or another - but it puzzles me how a man can bed badged for not having game by simply watching his interactions with women from a distance.

So how can you tell if a man doesn't have game by watching his interactions with women?

As a beginner having read up on elderly chat, rambling etc etc it would be of advantage knowing what not to do if you should slip during the interactions. It would be nice to have a strong contrast.

idane

Post: #2

Im going to give 5 examples

1. My friend is build exactly like a 2015 Jeff Seid (where he was big but wasn't hulking) He could EASILY get the attention from girls but he would bore them to death when talking to him. Tinder works best for him because he use canned game. However in person, He looks nervous, repeats questions, and tries to hard to be an asshole

2. The over sexual guy, there's a difference between holding sexual tension and being over sexual. I made this mistake where i would touch too much or have too many innuendos etc. You can tell by a girl's body language if she's uncomfortable

3. The cocky talker. Most game tells you to listen, be mysterious, confident and when you do talk to be funny or intelligent. a lot of guys talk a girl to boredom, trying to sell his self to her. Usually, its best to let how she feels around you do the talking rather than your mouth. usually a girl has a "im not impressed look"

4. the awkward, These guys can't hold a conversation. Usually its the person who's first into game or build up the confidence to talk to the girl of his dreams etc. These guys are the ones who looked up and opener and cant keep the conversation flowing. You can tell this by a girl constantly checking her phone or looking for an escape

5. The Old Dog, These guys are masters of their time but don't have the looks, or updated skill to keep up with the younger people. These guys come across as very "Dadly".

Usually, you can tell by a girl's engagement in the conversation whether or not she's interested. don't check his body language (although it can be a tell) check hers

Post: #3

Agree with Keepiticy2's comment. Watching a girl's body language and reactions will tell you a lot about how she feels about the interaction.

If you see the same guy repeatedly getting bored or negative reactions from girls, it's a good bet that he needs to improve his game.

Post: #4

Yep, something like 80% of game is just body language so it is easy to tell by looking across a venue how a guy is doing, simply by watching the vibe play out between the two people.

The elderly chat stuff is just giving a girl the opportunity to show if she is open to meeting a guy or not, and whether you are that guy. You will know rather quickly based on the vibes she is putting out whether she is interested. Recognizing the signs is really just a feeling that comes from experience, but I am still working on this myself.

I've come to realize if you are not getting good vibes from a girl it is almost impossible to try and convince her to like you. She knows rather quickly whether she wants to fuck you or not, and you aren't gonna change her mind one way or the other.

As for what not to do, once your in, just don't bore her to death with the shit you talk about. Keep it light, playful, and non serious. Avoid all interview style questions.