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I tuned in to the new Roseanne reboot the other night and couldn't believe what I was seeing. It wasn't by any means overly funny but it was chock full of shitlording and trolling. I never really watched the original, but for those of you that are unfamiliar the show aired some 20 years ago and it was about a typical midwestern blue collar family. If I recall correctly they were Clinton democrats at the time. The new season, which aired this week, shows the family as ardent deplorable Trump supporters.

The premise of the first season is Roseanne's daughter trying to reunite her with her sister, a miserable barren woman in a Nasty Woman t-shirt and pussy hat. There's plenty of right wing humor including "snowflake" and "safe space" jabs.

Overall, the show was nothing spectacular but I still found it worth watching. I was just shocked to see a sitcom on mainstream television (ABC) showing a famous character ripping on liberals and exposing them for what they are. It was interesting to see how it shows your older generation blue collar democrats and how they transformed to Republican nationalists in our current age.The actress that portrays Roseanne is known as Trump supporter in reality and even got a phone call from the President himself after the episode aired. The premier had a record viewership of 18 million.

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(((Roseanne)))

Post: #3

As I mentioned in the Trump thread before getting piled on, I agree. The new Roseanne show is good. I've interacted with her on Twitter, she's the real deal.

Post: #4

Some of us have already covered this topic in the Trump thread earlier today, but here it is again.


(((Roseanne))) is (and has always been) just degenerate leftism and "SJWism" in disguise.

Roseanne is the TV sitcom that in the 1980s/1990s pushed the whole concept & image of white people being just fat "white trash" harder than anyone.

Some Examples:

Watch first video until the end where John Goodman says he hates white people




"Parody" of police raid on "white trash" family




Entire episode called "white Trash Christmas"






Now, Rosenanne is back to portray Trump supporters as all white, fat and dumb....like Roseanne's sitcom family.

Don't fall for these old (((tricks))).
The show is (and always was) pure garbage.

Trump's ex deputy assistant, Sebastian Gorka is of the same mind:

Post: #5

(03-29-2018 02:16 PM)Gmac Wrote:  As I mentioned in the Trump thread before getting piled on, I agree. The new Roseanne show is good. I've interacted with her on Twitter, she's the real deal.

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Interesting point, Merc. I missed the convo in the Trump thread. I didn't see Roseanne or her family being dumb white trash... Rather just regular blue collar folks. They have a nice house and worked all their lives. But I never watched the show back in the 90's.

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Years ago Trump got very angry & riled up on his own apprentice TV show with a contestant using the words "white trash".







Now, Trump has forgotten his past values by congratulating this lifelong land whale and her decades long glorification of white trash.
Sad !

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It'll be interesting to see if the first episode was just a ruse to get people riled up and watching it, just for it to take a segway after a few episodes to it being about white trash Trump supporters.

Post: #9

...and Roseanne's grandson on the current Roseanne show dresses like a girl.

The (((agenda))) has not changed.


Time to put the obese land whale and her degenerate TV show where they belong.

Post: #10

(03-29-2018 02:43 PM)Mercenary Wrote:  ...and Roseanne's grandson on the current Roseanne show dresses like a girl.

The (((agenda))) has not changed.


Time to put the obese land whale and her degenerate TV show where they belong.

They ripped off Curb Your Enthusiasm.

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I think most are missing the point. They're going to be addressing the cross dressing kid as a family issue needing solving. These are lessons people can use in the household. How so many folks can't see this boggles my mind. Calm the f down.

Post: #12

Just heard about the gender identity BS with her grandson. In the FIRST EPISODE?? Has even Modern Family done this? At least with modern family it's an old white guy that wifes up a Latina hottie and has a chunky son that tries to learn game by compensating with personality and humor.

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In all fairness, Tim Allen deserves his own thread far more than (((Roseanne))).

Post: #14

(03-29-2018 04:50 PM)kamoz Wrote:  Just heard about the gender identity BS with her grandson. In the FIRST EPISODE?? Has even Modern Family done this? At least with modern family it's an old white guy that wifes up a Latina hottie and has a chunky son that tries to learn game by compensating with personality and humor.

That's Old Al Bundy, in all jest.

Post: #15

Ben Shapiro is on the same page as Gorka.

'Roseanne' BLOWS UP In The Ratings. Trump Supporters Cheer. But There's One Really Big Problem For Conservatives.

Quote:But there’s something else going on in Roseanne that should disturb conservatives: the redefinition of Trump supporters as blue collar leftists rather than conservatives. Roseanne’s character is pro-gay-marriage, pro-abortion, feminist, and pro-transgenderism — and the implication is that she is a good person because of these views. The real difference between Trump voters and Hillary voters are economic in nature, not cultural.

Follows a trend; I recall someone (Mark Steyn, possibly) using the term "Hollywood Republican" to describe Adam Sandler. It means 'cool with gay marriage and abortion, strong on defending Israel.' Sounds like it could apply to Rosanne.

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I got a chuckle with her interaction with Jimmy Kimmel from 4:00 to 4:!5 in this clip.

Post: #17

Now the neighbors in the show are Muslims and they buy a bunch of fertilizer. Of course it was just a mistake and they are a friendly couple. They also go over the top with people being nasty to the Muslims trying to make the viewer feel bad. I didn't think the show would jump the shark this early.

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(05-13-2018 09:59 PM)kbell Wrote:  Now the neighbors in the show are Muslims and they buy a bunch of fertilizer. Of course it was just a mistake and they are a friendly couple. They also go over the top with people being nasty to the Muslims trying to make the viewer feel bad. I didn't think the show would jump the shark this early.

So we have the transgender grandson and the Religion of Peace. Yup - shit..... not much lord except for support of Trump. Same shit with slightly different lessened colors.

Post: #19

The trump support is minor and the sister of Rosanne is what the writers really think. They had a small scene where Goodman lost his job contracting due to implied illegal immigration.

Post: #20

The most disconcerting part of the last episode was when Dan's bid fell through and they couldn't pay their bills. In fact, their wi-fi was turned off. Are we really supposed to believe they've made no financial progress in 20 years? They're still living paycheck to paycheck? With no savings, how will they survive retirement, which is fast approaching? Very depressing.

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(05-14-2018 10:03 AM)bbgun Wrote:  The most disconcerting part of the last episode was when Dan's bid fell through and they couldn't pay their bills. In fact, their wi-fi was turned off. Are we really supposed to believe they've made no financial progress in 20 years? They're still living paycheck to paycheck? With no savings, how will they survive retirement, which is fast approaching? Very depressing.

I've watched all the episodes, and this is one of the most glaring issues. First of all, the kids are all losers. DJ is the closest to being normal. He was drummed out of the military (this happens with perfectly good soldiers due to the up or out policy) but his wife is still in it. Becky is an alcoholic loser slut, and Darlene is a nut job, who wants to accept all kinds of completely out of control behavior from her children. As you mentioned, Dan and Roseanne have apparently remained broke and on the edge of financial ruin the whole time since the original show.

I notice also that the actors are clearly over acting their characters. You'd think the actors could drop back into the roles, but they all clearly are acting their characters in an over the top way that seems uncomfortable to them.

The old series always made a point to represent issues facing blue collar workers. Clearly Rosanne is using the same approach now, and she's using every issue of this type that she can think of. Most families facing these type of issues in real life don't see them from a liberal/conservative viewpoint. They're just trying to deal with their crazy adult kids and messed up grandkids.

It's clearly not the kind of pro-Trump show that a Trump partisan would hope for, but's also not the kind of pure SJW propaganda that most shows are. The fact they even have TV characters sympathetically portray the kind of issues of blue collar working class people face is commendable in my opinion.

Actually, when you think about the retirement issue, something like half or two thirds of people approaching retirement age have no savings at all, and many are still up to their eyeballs in debt. In this sense, while it seems as if the Conner's have screwed up their lives in an unrealistic way, it's actually the statistical norm in America.

I think the show is a little weird to watch due to the somewhat forced acting, and I feel uncomfortable seeing every character portrayed as being so fucked up, but I'm interested to see where they go with it. I think it's good to draw attention to the fact that so many people have at least some of these problems in their lives.

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Maybe they're broke because they have to feed deadbeat Darlene and her kids. "Jackie" was clearly overacting in the first few eps, but has calmed down of late. Estelle Parsons, the woman who plays her mom, is still hilarious, god bless her. The worst part of the last episode was the over-the-top bigoted checkout girl at the grocery store. No one in their right mind, in these pc times, would speak to a customer that way. Not if they want to keep their job. The whole thing rang false in the service of virtue signaling.

Post: #23

I was surprised to see Estelle Parsons back. My first thought was that I was surprised she's not dead.

I found out she's 90 in real life. She actually doesn't look that bad for 90. I had some grandmothers that were still going pretty strong at 90, so I know it happens, but it's still surprising to see it in a TV character.

Post: #24

(03-29-2018 07:36 PM)ed pluribus unum Wrote:  Ben Shapiro is on the same page as Gorka.

'Roseanne' BLOWS UP In The Ratings. Trump Supporters Cheer. But There's One Really Big Problem For Conservatives.

Quote:But there’s something else going on in Roseanne that should disturb conservatives: the redefinition of Trump supporters as blue collar leftists rather than conservatives. Roseanne’s character is pro-gay-marriage, pro-abortion, feminist, and pro-transgenderism — and the implication is that she is a good person because of these views. The real difference between Trump voters and Hillary voters are economic in nature, not cultural.

Follows a trend; I recall someone (Mark Steyn, possibly) using the term "Hollywood Republican" to describe Adam Sandler. It means 'cool with gay marriage and abortion, strong on defending Israel.' Sounds like it could apply to Rosanne.

If you want a serious takedown of Roseanne, as well as most other American television shows, you need to read Shapiro's book, Primetime Propaganda. He interviewed the top producers in Hollywood under the guise of being a friendly liberal Jew (his family is in the industry - shocking!). The show runner who created Roseanne admitted that it was basically a psyop. The show was meant to cater to working class, blue collar white people. It fed them understanding on their economic woes, only to slowly sneak in (ultra)liberal social ideas - abortion on demand, transgenderism, experimental lesbianism, etc.

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(05-14-2018 05:01 PM)Tiger Man Wrote:  If you want a serious takedown of Roseanne, as well as most other American television shows, you need to read Shapiro's book, Primetime Propaganda. He interviewed the top producers in Hollywood under the guise of being a friendly liberal Jew (his family is in the industry - shocking!). The show runner who created Roseanne admitted that it was basically a psyop. The show was meant to cater to working class, blue collar white people. It fed them understanding on their economic woes, only to slowly sneak in (ultra)liberal social ideas - abortion on demand, transgenderism, experimental lesbianism, etc.

OF course it's propaganda. Roseanne Barr herself is a mixed bag. She is somewhat working class and even gave away her daughter for adoption when she was 17 - partly because they were poor and partly because they were conservative. But she reunited with her later and gave her a high-paying job on the show. She is also what seems to be a devoted mother and down-to earth. She lives on some farm in Hawaii married to a mellow hippie look-alike:





She is a mixed bag because most of her liberal bias remained in the 1990s while the current left moved towards Antifa madness. She doxxed some cops in some BlackLivesMatter shootings and did other crazy things. But something has been going wrong with that family as well since one brother and one sister are homosexual in their family.

The show reflects that:

+ at least they mention price undercutting of illegals (true that they are desperate, but the politicians could create such punitive measures against it that every company doing it would be bankrupt - hardly a wall would be necessary then)
+ they normalize and shill for transgender
+ they push for race-mixing since DJ's daughter is a cute black girl - this gets really tedious now. And I like that Dan's partner is black - the actor is all cool - two working class dudes trying to make it, but they really had to push the globalist agenda 101, did they?
+ the Muslim couple is of course all liberal, oh so afraid of the terrible racists (kid sleeps in a bullet-proof vest in fucking rural mostly White USA!!!)
+ the woman goes out in full Hijab - so doubtful that they are really liberal - they should send over their gays, transgenders and black family members to test the real waters
+ the scene with the cashier girl of course never happens, but the reaction of Roseanne is worse - telling her off is one thing, but she said that she is going to report her - so the globalist chain will certainly fire her and block her for life. But this is how tolerant the radical left really is. Also how does she know what that Hijabi woman really is? Maybe they should tell them that they are half-Jewish, have a transgender grandson, lesbian friend and a black granddaughter.

+ Of course the scene at the supermarket never happens, but fact is - they are in the country and are taking EBT and getting welfare while countless Americans who paid taxes for decades are homeless and struggling. That Roseanne uses food stamps is one thing, but the rest of the world doing it while screaming about US racism and "being afraid of Americans" - fuck off!

+ That the show depicts no financial progress is actually realistic. You have 600% the chance for upward social mobility in Scandinavia than in the US. In Scandinavia all you need to do is to work hard, study or get a good vocation and you will be much richer than before. In the US that is nowhere enough.

But Roseanne's green-left-political ideas are not going to solve that.