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"What's the Deal with Men's Rights Activists and Asian Fetishes?"
Quote:"This is what it’s like to talk to Bond (real name: Steven Mapel), a self-described “digital nomad,” who’s made a career traveling across Asia, creeping on women, and posting the videos to YouTube. He goes to great lengths during our interview to defend himself from accusations that he’s a racist, a sexpat, and a trollish pick-up artist with an Asian fetish"
"But the thing is that Bond is just the tip of the iceberg here. And I'm not just talking about men with an Asian fetish. That shit's been going on forever. No, I'm talking about this intersecting venn diagram of men’s rights activists, incels, pick-up artists, and alt-right white nationalists that seem to have more than a thing for Asian women. "
"What is it about Asian women that makes the men who haunt the dark underbelly of the internet so obsessed with us?"
"“I don’t like white girls at all,” he tells me. “I make fun of Western women. I’m fucking Muslims [instead]... I’ve always been attracted to Asian/Latina [women] and the city I’m from has almost none. Plus, I was shy. I don’t think it’s that weird [to like Asian women]."
"Spend any time on subreddits like r/MensRights and you’re bound to learn two things: 1) these men love Asian women and 2) they hate “Western” women. "
"These (usually white) fantasies of "dominating" Asian women have given rise to an entire industry of globe-trotting pick-up artists like Bond who make money off this same community of men by selling how-to guides and posting aspirational YouTube videos that tell other jaded, dateless men that they too can be living the good life in Asia, as long as they PayPal $20 USD for exclusive access to some website."
https://www.vice.com/en_id/article/9kqqn...n-fetishes
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RE: "What's the Deal with Men's Rights Activists and Asian Fetishes?"
For click bait like this, we like to use archive.is links:
http://archive.is/jJzou
The mistake the article makes is that it conflates prostitution with the fact that a lot of Asian women (and, yes, Latinas too) do not have the sexual hangups women in the US have (#MeToo, quite bluntly, has become a new manifestation of the same old fashion puritanical attitudes the US was founded on).
I'm proud to be a part of a forum that called out A Rape on Campus for being a lie long before anyone else questioned the story.
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RE: "What's the Deal with Men's Rights Activists and Asian Fetishes?"
I cant imagine how "fetishes " like this come to be? Well Typist.... Its like if a loyal dog started getting kicked in the balls every week and developed a 'fetish' for a new sweet, caring respectful owner. But it really is just probably a straight forward case of cause and effect in the mind of any reasonable human being. Anyway lets shame these losers, make them think they aint good enough for fine American poontang. its been working so far.
Vice has some true intellectuals working for them, together id say they might just level out with the IQ of a blowfly.
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RE: "What's the Deal with Men's Rights Activists and Asian Fetishes?"
White women, in her natural uncorrupted state, are objectively the most desireable, beautiful women in the world. Not all races are created equal in terms of beauty and desireability, and men of all races universally prefer fair skin, large eyes, wide hips and big tits, and this combination is generally only possible in white women. And if you combine these traits with the instinctual female characteristics of feminity and a nurturing nature, women of other races simply could never compete. Unfortunately for both white men and women, the game has now changed due to obesity and feminism, and the pool of desireable white women, at least in the West, has greatly diminished. And many white men, being the obnoxiously practical creatures that we are, have discovered that Asian women are a superb alternative in the absence of tolerable white women, when we are looking for either a steady stream of pussy or a suitable long term partner.
Many white women despise Asian women, because deep down they understand that in comparison they are losers. They look around at the average FOB Asian women with their slender bodies, their pleasant agreeable nature, their superior sense of style, their smooth skin and silky hair, and their graceful refined movement, and they know that they cannot compete on an even playing field.
Often when a white woman discovers that most of my past girfriends were Asian, she will nod knowingly and make a snarkly comment such as, "Yeah, you look like the kind of guy who is into Asian girls." My go-to response is to raise my eyebrows, look her body up and down and ask, "What is it about Asian women that white women find so threatening?" Her stuttering, panicked response almost aways proves that she knows EXACTLY what is that she finds so threatening.
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RE: "What's the Deal with Men's Rights Activists and Asian Fetishes?"
(07-09-2018 06:04 AM)Horus Wrote: White women, in her natural uncorrupted state, are objectively the most desireable, beautiful women in the world. Not all races are created equal in terms of beauty and desireability, and men of all races universally prefer fair skin, large eyes, wide hips and big tits, and this combination is generally only possible in white women.
Sorry, but that's bullshit. First of all the VERY VERY VERY VAAAAASST majority of white women are not desirable and in fact unattractive. It is only a VERY TINY minority of white women who are desirable and beautiful. Such is the law of desirability, attractive and beautiful women are desirable BECAUSE they are a tiny minority. Be they white or Malay. Now, I can very much appreciate, and have fucked, white women, in fact I have a red-head fetish, however, there certainly are Malay, Japanese, Chinese, Korean and Filipina women who are more beautiful than any white woman. There are beautiful women in EVERY race, even among blacks, whom I personally would not call a preference, there are very beautiful and desirable women. Maybe your preference is for a white woman, and yes, granted, the Ottomans imported east Europeans, and nobody can deny a fine redhead is desirable or beautiful, or a blonde. But a fine white woman does NOT trump a fine Filipina or Korean woman just because she is white. What nonsense. White or paler skin is not reserved for North European/American women, there are Korean, Japanese, even Filipinas (with Spanish ancestry) that have white skin, and often they have big eyes. One of the finest set of eyes I ever saw was on a Filipina, and Arab women are notorious for beautiful eyes. Wide hips and big tits? What is this the 1950s? A nice pair of pert tits is perfectly fine, I don't need a 50s matron. I like slender and elegant women, and prefer a nice ass to giant tits. And the skin of a Malay or Filipina woman, the silky smoothness, you will NEVER find this in a white woman. If I had the choice between a fine white blonde or red-head, or gorgeous Filipina or Korean I would almost always choose the Asian option, simply because I find it more interesting. Each to his own of course, but don't say beauty and desirability can only be found in white women. Those are rare qualities, found in a tiny minority of white women, and Asian women.
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RE: "What's the Deal with Men's Rights Activists and Asian Fetishes?"
(07-09-2018 02:46 PM)Logos Wrote: (07-09-2018 06:04 AM)Horus Wrote: White women, in her natural uncorrupted state, are objectively the most desireable, beautiful women in the world. Not all races are created equal in terms of beauty and desireability, and men of all races universally prefer fair skin, large eyes, wide hips and big tits, and this combination is generally only possible in white women.
Sorry, but that's bullshit. First of all the VERY VERY VERY VAAAAASST majority of white women are not desirable and in fact unattractive. It is only a VERY TINY minority of white women who are desirable and beautiful. Such is the law of desirability, attractive and beautiful women are desirable BECAUSE they are a tiny minority. Be they white or Malay. Now, I can very much appreciate, and have fucked, white women, in fact I have a red-head fetish, however, there certainly are Malay, Japanese, Chinese, Korean and Filipina women who are more beautiful than any white woman. There are beautiful women in EVERY race, even among blacks, whom I personally would not call a preference, there are very beautiful and desirable women. Maybe your preference is for a white woman, and yes, granted, the Ottomans imported east Europeans, and nobody can deny a fine redhead is desirable or beautiful, or a blonde. But a fine white woman does NOT trump a fine Filipina or Korean woman just because she is white. What nonsense. White or paler skin is not reserved for North European/American women, there are Korean, Japanese, even Filipinas (with Spanish ancestry) that have white skin, and often they have big eyes. One of the finest set of eyes I ever saw was on a Filipina, and Arab women are notorious for beautiful eyes. Wide hips and big tits? What is this the 1950s? A nice pair of pert tits is perfectly fine, I don't need a 50s matron. I like slender and elegant women, and prefer a nice ass to giant tits. And the skin of a Malay or Filipina woman, the silky smoothness, you will NEVER find this in a white woman. If I had the choice between a fine white blonde or red-head, or gorgeous Filipina or Korean I would almost always choose the Asian option, simply because I find it more interesting. Each to his own of course, but don't say beauty and desirability can only be found in white women. Those are rare qualities, found in a tiny minority of white women, and Asian women.
Reading that was more painful than my last torn ACL.
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RE: "What's the Deal with Men's Rights Activists and Asian Fetishes?"
In case you didn't notice, this article quoted a sex tourist, the r/incel thread, other subreddits, none of which are about men's rights, and our own forum member sex tourist, Naughty Nomad.
It quoted no men's rights activists.
This is a propaganda piece, and the whole point of it is to discredit anyone who engages in activism on behalf of men.
It isn't even really about inter-racial dating.
The Asian preference, which would be you-go-grrlled if a woman said it, is being presented as a creepy fetish for men who can't attract women in their own country, in other words, losers and creeps.
That is the whole point of this article, to make anyone who advocates for men seem like a loser, an outcast.
The title of this thread either intentionally or not, buys right into the assumption of the article.
Whether or not you like men's rights activists, or think they have a bad strategy, you should not be buying in to a mentality that shames men for their sexual preferences like this.
Even if men's rights activists in general preferred Asian women, and remember, the link between them and Asian women is nonexistent in this article, it is a smear piece, why would anyone on this forum care?
This is almost as bad as a question on Quora.
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Matt Fecal
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RE: "What's the Deal with Men's Rights Activists and Asian Fetishes?"
(07-09-2018 02:46 PM)Logos Wrote: [quote='Horus' pid='1816265' dateline='1531134245']
Sorry, but that's bullshit. First of all the VERY VERY VERY VAAAAASST majority of white women are not desirable and in fact unattractive. It is only a VERY TINY minority of white women who are desirable and beautiful.
a fine white woman does NOT trump a fine Filipina or Korean woman just because she is white. What nonsense. White or paler skin is not reserved for North European/American women, there are Korean, Japanese, even Filipinas (with Spanish ancestry) that have white skin, and often they have big eyes. One of the finest set of eyes I ever saw was on a Filipina, and Arab women are notorious for beautiful eyes. Wide hips and big tits? What is this the 1950s? A nice pair of pert tits is perfectly fine, I don't need a 50s matron.
Indeed. I don't get that White supremacist thing that White women are supposed to be some kind of universal standard (and I am White).
Quote:nobody can deny a fine redhead is desirable or beautiful
I wonder why is it that ginger women are quite often deemed to be "beautiful" why ginger men are supposed to be less desirable?
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RE: "What's the Deal with Men's Rights Activists and Asian Fetishes?"
To be fair, a lot of spergy guys on these corners (manosphere, MAGA, etc) do go out with subpar asian women...producing little Elliott Rodgers along the way. Not to mention, there's a thing about hooking up with filipinas since they're easy; you can be fat as fuck and still get laid there.
The game and career guys in Asia, like Irish, are on another level...but you seem him focus on other stuff than MGTOW or MAGA.
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RE: "What's the Deal with Men's Rights Activists and Asian Fetishes?"
I would think an MRA guy might prefer an Asian because of the perceived respect for family, and conservative values. A woman like this is often more beautiful, because she is in her femininity focussed on making her world around her more beautiful, men love this. Plus the man perform his proper role as provider, decider, and sex machine. White chicks are super hot when they are feminine too, problem is all the feminism and sugar. On looks, Asians can compete on lots of different levels, ultimately it comes down to the girl on your arm. I was out with a married buddy who said he could never do an Asian chick, I found that strange, maybe its easier to talk like that after you're married. Not my baliwick, but there are lots amazingly hot beautiful Asian chicks out there.
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RE: "What's the Deal with Men's Rights Activists and Asian Fetishes?"
(07-09-2018 06:04 AM)Horus Wrote: White women, in her natural uncorrupted state, are objectively the most desireable, beautiful women in the world. Not all races are created equal in terms of beauty and desireability, and men of all races universally prefer fair skin, large eyes, wide hips and big tits, and this combination is generally only possible in white women.
Nah you're wrong. Russian women you might have an argument, but American and European whites are dogs. The characteristics you list are not exclusively available to white women, and those characteristics are themselves fundamentally open to dispute as "universally desirable."
All the gameless muh politics posters clicking "like," lol.
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RE: "What's the Deal with Men's Rights Activists and Asian Fetishes?"
(07-09-2018 09:11 PM)Matt Fecal Wrote: Indeed. I don't get that White supremacist thing that White women are supposed to be some kind of universal standard (and I am White).
I just can't abide the stupidity of this belief, I have seen with my OWN EYES Korean, Japanese, Malay and Filipina women who are more attractive than 99% of white women. Even if there WERE a mythical white whale whose sublime beauty trumped the Asians, I have never seen one in the flesh myself, that is an EXCEPTION and says nothing about white women.
And just because I have seen beautiful Asian women it would never occur to me to declare that Asian women are THE standard in beauty, that a white or black woman can never reach such heights of beauty. I mean I have not seen EVERY Asian or EVERY white woman in person. Neither has Horus, neither has loremipsum, nor has anyone seen enough women to make such categoric declarations. The confidence of this person! You can go on girl by girl basis and say this girl is better than another you have seen.
Perhaps some guys have a certain worldview which makes them HAVE to belief that white women HAVE to be the most beautiful, because, hey, White is always the best in EVERYTHING. That's not my experience is all I'm saying, though of course there are attractive white girls. On occasion. Very rarely.
Btw, I was once with a Filipina who was at a restaurant table we had to share with a red-head guy, and couldn't get her eyes off of that guy. She was totally hot for him.
And though I say I like redheads, I'm well aware that 95% of redheads are dogs I wouldn't touch with a long pole. Again, case by case.
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RE: "What's the Deal with Men's Rights Activists and Asian Fetishes?"
(07-09-2018 09:25 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote: To be fair, a lot of spergy guys on these corners (manosphere, MAGA, etc) do go out with subpar asian women...producing little Elliott Rodgers along the way. Not to mention, there's a thing about hooking up with filipinas since they're easy; you can be fat as fuck and still get laid there.
The game and career guys in Asia, like Irish, are on another level...but you seem him focus on other stuff than MGTOW or MAGA.
Personally, I look like a young Keanu Reeves and only go out with Asian women that are at least an 8. And if you've ever been to Philippines you can look European, be dressed in a suit and STILL not have Filipinas jump you and rip your clothes off. That's a myth. Of course if all you do like most guys is hit the dating sites you'll have tons of messages, so would you if you do that in England or Germany. English girls are way easier than Filipinas in my personal experience.
And yes, you get fat guys, older guys dating Filipinas, but you get the same in the UK and the US. Pillip Green? Harvey Weinstein? All married. Hypergamy doesn't care. You can be fat anywhere, if you have other qualities a woman will date you. But most Filipinas have standards and do not date old fat guys, if they're young and attractive, that is.
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RE: "What's the Deal with Men's Rights Activists and Asian Fetishes?"
(07-09-2018 09:43 PM)NoMoreTO Wrote: I was out with a married buddy who said he could never do an Asian chick, I found that strange, maybe its easier to talk like that after you're married. Not my baliwick, but there are lots amazingly hot beautiful Asian chicks out there.
Quite right, it is strange to say you could never do an Asian chick. But really it says more about your buddy and his closed world than about Asian girls. I feel sorry for him. Everyone has a preference, that is not strange at all, but to close your world off to beautiful women because they're Latina, Asian, white or black is a bit limiting and stupid in my view. If a woman is attractive I would do her, just for kicks. Call me strange.
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RE: "What's the Deal with Men's Rights Activists and Asian Fetishes?"
(07-09-2018 09:56 PM)churros Wrote: (07-09-2018 06:04 AM)Horus Wrote: White women, in her natural uncorrupted state, are objectively the most desireable, beautiful women in the world. Not all races are created equal in terms of beauty and desireability, and men of all races universally prefer fair skin, large eyes, wide hips and big tits, and this combination is generally only possible in white women.
Nah you're wrong. Russian women you might have an argument, but American and European whites are dogs. The characteristics you list are not exclusively available to white women, and those characteristics are themselves fundamentally open to dispute as "universally desirable."
All the gameless muh politics posters clicking "like," lol.
Pathetic.
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