Post: #1

We tend to have a bleak perspective here on male thirst.

I'm starting to think it's actually a great thing for getting new notches.

I know, I know. But hear me out.

I'm in the US in a medium-sized city. It's not the first time I have been here but I've seen a significant change over the last few years.

The thirst is higher then I have ever seen. It's extreme to a disturbing degree.

If a girl opens her Tinder, she gets matched with strong, good-looking and interesting men. No matter how ugly or fat she is (to a degree).

But here's the thing. Even these good looking and successful guys come across as incredibly thirsty.

If you want to see this for yourself, borrow the phone of a female friend and see what these guys actually put in their profile and what messages they actually send.

The thirst is real.

Many fit, successful men come across like they haven't gotten laid in years. Just looking at the facial expressions and the extent these guys go to to make a good impression is laughable, because it's so sad.

What is causing this?

These guys don't cold approach. They go to the gym, make their money and turn on Tinder. And hope for the best. And "the best" has been going down for years and years.

They are dependent on whatever girl is bored and feels like having a hookup. That dependency is creating their thirst for pussy and makes them look like little boys begging for a cookie.

What is the result for the women?

They crave a man who is not dependent on female validation. Who stays calm and aloof in the face of a possible opportunity to get laid. Who doesn't jump her like a starving dog who will take anything - anything - he can lay his pawns on.

Seriously. I went to a couple of bars and the hardest part is opening a girl. Once you're in and then act non-reactive (e.g. not-thirsty), they take care of the rest.

They are desperate for a man, any man, that is not thirsty.

This is a HUGE opportunity if you have the balls to approach. You don't have to be funny anymore. You don't have to be cocky.

You just have to be Not Thirsty.

Or fake it, of course.

1. Don't interrupt her when she's talking. Leave a few second pause when she finishes
2. If she throws you a curve-ball, don't respond
3. Talk slowly and use as little words as you can
4. Look her in the eye but don't make an effort. Look away every now and then
5. Be very clear you'll go talk to someone else if you feel like it

It is that simple.

Because 99% of her options are thirsty as fuck, you can inflate your value if you stay aloof and are not fazed just because she has mediocre tittays.

One caveat: Don't be fat. Don't look bisexual. Don't dress like a little boy.

This only works if she thinks you are strong enough to give her a good dicking.

Good luck boys. Go get 'em.

Post: #2

Thirst is very necessary and is the reason we are all here. Hundreds of thousands of years of dudes banging smelly cave pussy put us all on the planet. People act like thurst is some sort of social phenomenon when it's the reason why there are 7 billion plus people on the planet.

Post: #3

I think the "epidemic of thirst" is really just a biproduct of the times we live in. Everything nowadays is easy, even women. It has never been easier in the history of society to go out and get some pussy. Women also aren't as eager to be with any one man because meeting a more attractive guy is just easy. we live in a time that is heavily influenced by individualism, FOMO, self-promotion, and shallow surface-level social interactions.

Men are more desperate for sex because sex is so easy and abundant so they feel like they should be having a piece of that pie. Getting in contact with people is easy and fast and has less personal repercussions so men are more quick to haphazardly shoot a message at a girl with cringey game.

It's that Yin and Yang. With one extreme there's always the other. All you have to do is separate yourself from the back and be on the other side of that fence.

Post: #4

I hadn’t looked at it that way. FOMO definitely plays a role. The success of tinder is most likely due to the FOMO it installs in dudes. They see more hot tail in a few minutes of swiping than during the rest of the day and now they want to become players.

Post: #5

It's the age of easy pussy and everyone wants a seat at the table even if they aren't really cut out for it. The fact that we have the internet with social media and dating apps now just exponentially drives up the perceived thirst factor by magnitudes because incels and dweebs who were bad with women and couldn't get laid used to just stay inside and never interact with women. Now they can stay inside and interact with hundreds/thousands of women everyday all day. Men who have no business trying to spit to girls because they are socially inept are now sending messages and dick pics left and right, and giving all kinds of undue attention to women online.

Post: #6

(07-17-2018 03:00 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  I think the "epidemic of thirst" is really just a biproduct of the times we live in. Everything nowadays is easy, even women. It has never been easier in the history of society to go out and get some pussy.

I wrote in another thread that this just isn't what I'm seeing. I'm assuming you live in the US, as I do, and just by going with observations I am NOT witnessing easy lays. Everywhere you go is a sausage fest and guys are going home with blue balls. Now, I'm not saying nobody is getting ass, but a lot of dudes are struggling.

It may not be impossible to fuck decent-looking chicks, but it is not easy by any stretch.

Post: #7

(07-18-2018 01:25 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  

(07-17-2018 03:00 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  I think the "epidemic of thirst" is really just a biproduct of the times we live in. Everything nowadays is easy, even women. It has never been easier in the history of society to go out and get some pussy.

I wrote in another thread that this just isn't what I'm seeing. I'm assuming you live in the US, as I do, and just by going with observations I am NOT witnessing easy lays. Everywhere you go is a sausage fest and guys are going home with blue balls. Now, I'm not saying nobody is getting ass, but a lot of dudes are struggling.

It may not be impossible to fuck decent-looking chicks, but it is not easy by any stretch.

Women are probably much more liberal about sex than they used to be (don't know if the 60s are an exception). On the other hand, there are certain stereotypes of males who are trending right now. If you don't fit in those you may experience more difficulty in getting laid. So I'd say there's truth to both it being easier than ever before and not really being that easy.

Post: #8

This is a winning perspective.

I reached a "fuck it" point recently in my game where I started being extremely open about my sexual intent, promiscuity, and desire for casual sex with hot girls.

I stopped hiding this from pretty much every girl who I come into contact with. I'm not hiding shit anymore.

Now, girls smell the player vibe radiating off of me, and they get even more turned on. I'm getting way more eye twinkles and other IOIs from girls that I approach.

Openly demonstrating that I have many options (and being damn happy about it) has been the single most important change that I've made to my game this year.

Like you mentioned, it all comes back to not being thirsty.

When you know that you can get laid from cold approach pick-up, you aren't thirsty by default. You will always have options. This is incredibly empowering, and it's the biggest advantage over Tinder and online dating that I can think of.

Post: #9

You're better off showing thirst than being apprehensive and timid. But you're better off being confident, relaxed and comfortable with expressing your intent and interest than being thirsty. Being thirsty works well on girls who are less attractive and flattered to receive interest from a guy even if it comes from a place of desperation.

Post: #10

I can agree that there has always been "male thirst" (for sex) and yes the internet has given guys that would have problems getting laid an opportunity for sex that they may not otherwise have.
But it has also givin mediocre women (pussy fest?) a chance too (we've all been fooled by their photo shopped pic's)

I'd like to better define the male thirst or sausage fest....it's towards the cream of the female crop (usually a narcissist or fake photo).

Is it any different than high school where all the guys wanted to bang Sally the (9) cheer leader but settled instead to bang all Sally's ugly friends? (the friends that hung around Sally to bang the guys Sally attracted...then later went to Tinder) Meanwhile poor Sally had every thing from teachers to the local priest hitting on her (spam)...she just learns to deal with it.(stay off the net)

Girls like guys Guys like girls
Guys want sex...girls want sex
A guy fools himself into believing only he has the magical dick for a girl.....a girl pretends yes only that guy who is fooling himself has the special dick.
Guys get horny and girls get horny BUT each gets horny differently

For any guy to go up to a woman (who are so emotionally complicated they can't even figure themselves out) and hit on using one method is risky.

IMO ..A guy has to read a woman and watch for her signals. A guys chances increases the more interest and attraction to him he can generate from a woman. AND you don't leave any chick and walk away until you get some good vibes from her....then leaving generates more interest as she thinks about the pleasant interaction..
All chicks like a confident man.....meaning aloof...not needy....direct eye contact ...speak calmly and sincerely..e.t.c...but you need to get into her space first and find out which buttons and levers she likes pushed.

Forrest Gump (hump).....woman are like a box of chocolates all are different (in varying degrees)

Post: #11

(07-18-2018 01:25 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  

(07-17-2018 03:00 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  I think the "epidemic of thirst" is really just a biproduct of the times we live in. Everything nowadays is easy, even women. It has never been easier in the history of society to go out and get some pussy.

I wrote in another thread that this just isn't what I'm seeing. I'm assuming you live in the US, as I do, and just by going with observations I am NOT witnessing easy lays. Everywhere you go is a sausage fest and guys are going home with blue balls. Now, I'm not saying nobody is getting ass, but a lot of dudes are struggling.

It may not be impossible to fuck decent-looking chicks, but it is not easy by any stretch.

Where do you live? Silicon Valley?

You can literally have a girl come over for sex without even leaving your house or changing out of your PJ's without having to pay any money (I've done it). Just swipe on an app, send some texts, send your address. And not even just using apps: a little over a year ago I saw this cute girl who lived on the same floor as me in my apartment building. Knocked on her door and chatted for a second, got her number and told her we'd hang out this weekend. Thursday rolled around and we met up and walked down to the hottub in the apartment building, then went back up to her unit, netflix chilled and fucked. I left and went back to my place after. I hooked up and never even left my damn apartment building or spent a dime. Granted it's not always this easy and not for every man, but you get the picture.

Women are handing out sex very easy these days. Women are independent and empowered and relationships and commitment are taboo. Hookup is the name of the game and everyone is doing it. If you're not then either you don't want to or you need some work.

Post: #12

(07-18-2018 07:29 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  Where do you live? Silicon Valley?

You can literally have a girl come over for sex without even leaving your house or changing out of your PJ's without having to pay any money (I've done it). Just swipe on an app, send some texts, send your address. Granted it's not always this easy and not for every man, but you get the picture.

Women are handing out sex very easy these days. Women are independent and empowered and relationships and commitment are taboo. Hookup is the name of the game and everyone is doing it. If you're not then either you don't want to or you need some work.

Haha, nope, I'm in New England.

From my experience, I've never had a girl come over like that. They are very apprehensive and almost always want to go to a bar or a coffee shop instead. If you having success with getting girls to come to your place, my hat is off to you bro. I've banged girls from two or three dates and even then it was a tug of war. I was mentally exhausted from spitting game and playing a clown.

Post: #13

Damn I grew up just north of Boston and I did very well on OkCupid for a solid coupla years. Mostly same night lays and whatnot. Mileage varies I suppose.

Post: #14

West Coast sounds like it's a lot better than East Coast in terms of girl's attitudes towards sex. Girls in NJ were not giving it up that easy, usually.

Post: #15

(07-18-2018 10:14 PM)Fortis Wrote:  West Coast sounds like it's a lot better than East Coast in terms of girl's attitudes towards sex. Girls in NJ were not giving it up that easy, usually.

Nor in DC. I had an easier time of it in Texas. Relatively speaking.

Post: #16

Thirsty= Neediness= No Confidence= A Sahara Desert Pussy

If you're thirsty around a girl that just shows her you're needy. It doesn't matter how good looking you are; if you're thirsty she'll eventually be repulsed by you.

Post: #17

(07-18-2018 10:14 PM)Fortis Wrote:  West Coast sounds like it's a lot better than East Coast in terms of girl's attitudes towards sex. Girls in NJ were not giving it up that easy, usually.

I think this might be more a climate thing than a coastal thing honestly.

I'm sure Washington and Oregon aren't much better than New England and the Tri-state, but in contrast I'm sure SoCal and and Florida are similar. Tropical beach environment just promotes a different sort of attitude and lifestyle than temperate zones with long dreary cold months.

Post: #18

(07-19-2018 09:03 AM)[email protected] Wrote:  Thirsty= Neediness= No Confidence= A Sahara Desert Pussy

If you're thirsty around a girl that just shows her you're needy. It doesn't matter how good looking you are; if you're thirsty she'll eventually be repulsed by you.

Some excellent posts in this thread.

Couldn't agree with the general consensus; the growing epidemic of thirst/neediness is a boon to us.

There is nothing sexier to a girl than a man who is control of his desires; one who isn't dependent on her for happiness or pleasure. It demonstrates leadership and confidence. It creates mystery. And is a challenge that is hard to refuse.

And non-neediness is hard to feign. But easy to attain if you build your lifestyle into one of abundance; a fact the thirsty boys fail to realise.

I'm sure many of us can remember crossing that threshold of experience into a place of abundance; it is as though a switch is flicked, and everything becomes simple, natural, streamlined.

It puts us in the 10%.

Post: #19

I hate the term thirst as if male desire is a bad thing. It's gynocentric. Girls should be more thirsty. Think of gay people they're generally quite happy and think of lesbians they're often miserable drama ridden relationships. When women are given testosterone they notice their sex drives go up. Men naturally have 10x more testosterone, it's in our nature and it's a large reason why our species dominates the planet.

Post: #20

The term "thirst" isn't referring to healthy male desire, but rather desperation. A man who is "thirsty" is a man who is overtly needy, living with a scarcity mentality, and generally scares women away with his eagerness and staunch outcome dependence.

Post: #21

^ this.

I met General Stalin. He is crazy strong and looks the part. He has a cool life and looks the part. He obviously worked hard to improve himself.

The opportunities that may present themselves to him are not the same as for someone who did not put in the same amount of work.

However, one of my teachers always taught me that it does not mattter if you are handsome but it’s a deadly sin if you are ugly..

What this means is that if you have a major deformity (like me) or if you are fucking fat, you have to take action.

I used to be ripped and strong when I was 20. I am tall already so convential pickup dogma states I should have gotten laid more, but the opposite was true. Several girls told me “they do not like guys with abs.” What they meant is “they do not like deformed guys with abs”. A deformed man who oozes strength is for some reason repulsive.

The threshold for showing intent for someone who is ugly is way, way lower. Girls are easily disgusted by a guy like that who shows intent. You have to take that into consideration.

The opposite is also true because how girls look at your thirst / intent is modulated by how attractive you are. If you are a 2, they are repelled if you are attracted to them. If you are an 8, they are flattered.

If you are fucking fat, lose weight and be quick about it. If your face is busted, get surgery or find a way to manage it because your opportunities will increase five-fold.

Post: #22

(07-18-2018 05:08 PM)stefpdt Wrote:  This is a winning perspective.

^^^ This

And it's nice to see game threads by guys who know what they are talking about and have an attitude focused on positivity and taking action.

Post: #23

Awww asdfk!



You touch upon something different here though that has more to do with looks vs game than thirst vs abundance.

It goes without saying that being good looking generally lets you "get away with" a lot more game fouls. You can be allowed a certain level of corniness, cringe-game, thirst, and overall game "don'ts" and slipups if you are top-tier looks. Not saying that I am, but I've seen examples of this and the shit that an awesome male specimen can get away with is astonishing in a lot of cases.

I wouldn't be so hard on yourself though about your looks. Your deformity doesn't make you "ugly" as your face and body aren't unattractive, it just gives you a handicap that you need to overcome. As you know from living with it so long, it's really about owning it and showing confidence, style, and aplomb in spite of it.

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Back to the Topic at hand, though. The general consensus that the epidemic of thirst makes game a little easier is indeed true. It's true in that it makes it that much easier to separate yourself from the rest of the pack. Women are now conditioned that the default M.O. of dudes is to shower them in undeserved attention, offer the moon and the stars, and come out of the box swinging with eager cringy game. All you have to do is not do that and show a little couth and social calibration and you're already ahead of the game.

Post: #24

I'm pretty sure this is wrong.

Girls want attention, thirsty guys give it to them. Then their brains get burnt out and their attention spans shorten.

You'll almost certainly have better results if guys weren't thirsty.

I don't know if guys are actually competitive sexually in the US(maybe they are in a way NZ guys are not?) but standing out seems overrated, it's all about girls' attention spans and their perceived ability to be able to select guys.

Post: #25

Playing off other guys thirst is definitely a good way to get girls. My mind was honestly blown when I went to Toronto and saw how thirsty men were, it seemed like a lot of them were on the verge of tears. You just need to have abundance mentality and realize that even if a girl is an 8 there are still many more 8s out there.