Post: #1

This topic is a spin-off from my previous topic on anti-feminism (/thread-69521.html). I have to say I was also inspired by this podcast:





I arrived at the conclusion that creating an anti-feminist ideology/manifesto is both useless and dangerous. This idea could easily backfire in many ways, for several reasons we discussed there. That doesn’t mean we should be conformists and turn the other cheek when attacked, since this is consenting to give the other side a supreme victory. As Sun Tsu said, "Supreme excellence in warfare lies in the destruction of your enemy's will to resist in advance of perceptible hostilities."

What we need to do is, for our own security, to have an exaggerated consciousness of our historical circumstances in order to make less mistakes as possible and seize all the opportunities presented by our age. I think the following excerpt from Ortega y Gasset’s The Revolt of the Masses summarizes the attitude we should adopt regarding feminism:

Ortega y Gasset - The Revolt of the Masses Wrote:At first sight, an attitude "anti-anything" seems posterior to this thing, inasmuch as it signifies a reaction against it and supposes its previous existence. But the innovation which the anti represents fades away into an empty negative attitude, leaving as its only positive content an "antique." When his attitude is translated into positive language, the man who declares himself anti-Peter does nothing more than declare himself the upholder of a world where Peter is non-existent. But that is exactly what happened to the world before Peter was born. The anti-Peterite, instead of placing himself after Peter, makes himself previous to him and reverses the whole film to the situation of the past, at the end of which the re-apparition of Peter is inevitable.

(…) Every anti is nothing more than a simple, empty No. This would be all very nice and fine if with a good, round No we could annihilate the past. But the past is of its essence a revenant. If put out, it comes back, inevitably. Hence, the only way to separate from it is not to put it out, but to accept its existence, and so to behave in regard to it as to dodge it, to avoid it. In a word, to live "at the height of our time," with an exaggerated consciousness of the historical circumstances.

(…) There is no hope for Europe unless its destiny is placed in the hands of men really "contemporaneous," men who feel palpitating beneath them the whole subsoil of history, who realise the present level of existence, and abhor every archaic and primitive attitude. We have need of history in its entirety, not to fall back into it, but to see if we can escape from it.

Have you ever wonder why feminism is always returning more and more powerful? Remember that we are in the third wave of feminism. That is because common men have always adopted a reactive attitude towards feminism. This way, we not only don’t kill feminism, but also paves the way for its triumphal return in the future.

Feminism is horrendous, but it won’t disappear with a simple, empty No. Therefore, we need to live "at the height of our time”, and this demands the study of history. Since things are chaotic now, we need to study history in order to investigate why we arrived at this point in the present. This way, men don’t fall back in the same mistakes of the past, we escape from history.

But our history is not the history of feminism. Our history is the history of men entering the Brave New World. It is the history of pioneers who started to play a game before knowing how it worked. It is the history of explorers who risked go hunting exactly when the rules of hunting started to change at a tremendously fast pace and always in favor of the prey. It is the history of martyrs who abandoned peace and comfort provided by technology to challenge the unknown.

This history is very alive in our heads, what makes me wonder: why is this history not documented yet? A book about the history of game would be both elucidative of our present and a good source of discussion about our future. And we, my friends, we are the only ones capable of doing it.

Why don’t we start producing a collaborative book on the history of game? This book may only include topics related to game, or maybe cover modern masculinity in general. Roosh can be the organizer, and we can be the collaborators. This way, Roosh takes all the profits, and I think this is fair, since he did a lot for us, not only through his books, but also uniting us in this forum. There can be collaborators from many parts of the world telling how the neomasculinity community developed in their countries. In the end, we may have the most elaborate book on the topic.
What do you think?

Post: #2

I think this is a rather odd thread for a guy with 19 posts in two years to commence.

God save us from people who mean well. -storm

Post: #3

I think that before asking us to buy into such grand ideas, maybe you should stay a while and contribute a little more.

Post: #4

You're asking men to put in dozens of hours for your idea. Own your idea and produce the book yourself.

Post: #5

I'll start:

"Once upon a time"

That's all I've got, I'm sure you can finish it from here.

Post: #6

(08-20-2018 07:10 AM)Roosh Wrote:  You're asking men to put in dozens of hours for your idea. Own your idea and produce the book yourself.

I suggested you get all the profits, my friend.
Anyway, it is just an idea. You can steal it. Maybe it is a good idea for your next book. It doesn't need to be collaborative. I thought the podcast was really entertaining. I think a book telling the history of game would sell more than a book about game.
If the pioneers of game don't tell this story, it will disappear in a matter of years, and men from the future will repeat the same mistakes.

Post: #7

I suggest we each write our own book and compile into one Biblical Tome with epic proportions and chapter names to match. For instance:

Book of PapayaTapper

Book of Cr33pin

Second letter of iop890 to Californians

First letter of Handsome Creepy Eel to Croatians

Nomadbrah's letter to Jews

Samseau's book of Revelations

Memes

Acts of Little Dark

Post: #8

A game wiki would seem like an easier way to organise and compile the information.

Post: #9

(08-20-2018 07:21 AM)Ocelot Wrote:  I'll start:

"Once upon a time"

That's all I've got, I'm sure you can finish it from here.

Your cheque is in the post.

Post: #10

(08-20-2018 04:40 AM)JoSuado Wrote:  Have you ever wonder why feminism is always returning more and more powerful? Remember that we are in the third wave of feminism. That is because common men have always adopted a reactive attitude towards feminism. This way, we not only don’t kill feminism, but also paves the way for its triumphal return in the future.

Feminism is horrendous, but it won’t disappear with a simple, empty No.

We know why feminism always comes back. It's a batshit crazy ideology that is simply financed from the top and in addition it sounds oh-so good to women on the surface.

Communism also comes back again and again and is supported by so many despite disastrous results.

Feminism is even taught at the entire school and university hierarchy and is reinforced in all media - movies, TV, games, comics, books (they give authors special grants to embed globohomo propaganda, add gay protagonists, super-female characters etc.)

We have truth on our side, but so what?

Game and what is called Red Pill will find it's way into mainstream science one day, but that will only happen if our benevolent rulers allow that or are no longer in charge.

Post: #11

(08-20-2018 09:27 AM)Avadhuta Wrote:  A game wiki would seem like an easier way to organise and compile the information.

A conservative wiki edited by conservative users documenting conservative personalities on the web and their enemies is something that must be created urgently!

Try to google Roosh name. One of the first entries is his article on the rational wiki defaming him. Roosh V - Rational Wiki

Why don't we have a conservative wiki? I won't created it, because English is not even my native language.

(08-20-2018 01:12 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  

We know why feminism always comes back. It's a batshit crazy ideology that is simply financed from the top and in addition it sounds oh-so good to women on the surface.

Communism also comes back again and again and is supported by so many despite disastrous results.

Feminism is even taught at the entire school and university hierarchy and is reinforced in all media - movies, TV, games, comics, books (they give authors special grants to embed globohomo propaganda, add gay protagonists, super-female characters etc.)

We have truth on our side, but so what?

Game and what is called Red Pill will find it's way into mainstream science one day, but that will only happen if our benevolent rulers allow that or are no longer in charge.

Money plays a big role indeed, but money is not omnipotent. The ability to shape minds is more powerful than the ability to bribe people until they do what you want.
When Napoleon returned to France, a whole army bowed in front of him just because of his presence. He did not have to pay anyone.
We can conquer more adepts if we create a narrative where we are heroes and pioneers. Money naturally follows the more powerful idea, not the contrary.

Post: #12

(08-20-2018 07:21 AM)Ocelot Wrote:  I'll start:

"Once upon a time"

That's all I've got, I'm sure you can finish it from here.

And they all lived happily ever after.

The end.

Seriously though, didn't The Game by Neil Strauss document the history of PUA? It's been a long time since I read it, and I didn't pull much value from it, so cannot fully recall.

Post: #13

I think The Game only covers the period of Mystery's Hollywood mansion.

Post: #14

The Gane has a good bit of history in it including references to Eric Webber, Ross Jefferies, alt.seduction, and several social scientists whose work was applied to the Venusian arts. I’m sure there were guys before Eric Webber but he’s basically the Stone Age of game.

Post: #15

Once upon a time a prince asked a beautiful princess “Will you marry me?” The princess said "no"....and so the prince lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and fucked cute skinny girls with big tits and hunted and raced cars and went to titty bars and did blow off of strippers tits dated women half his age and drank beer, Jack Daniel´s and Captain Morgan at breakfast and drank the milk from the carton and never heard bitching and went to rock concerts and kept his apartment and and went commando in his favorite jeans and never got cheated on while working and his family and his friends thought he was fucking cool as hell and had tons of money & left the toilet seat up. THE END....Author unknown

Post: #16

@josuado - we HAD our own wiki, but the guy who proposed the wiki to Roosh turned out to have a sick past, so we deleted it and banned him. Try Infogalactic for a conservative wiki.

Post: #17

(08-21-2018 02:06 AM)fokker Wrote:  @josuado - we HAD our own wiki, but the guy who proposed the wiki to Roosh turned out to have a sick past, so we deleted it and banned him. Try Infogalactic for a conservative wiki.

Wikipedia is dominated by cultural marxists. You can hardly even change it now.

There are other sites, but to what avail? The left has taken over most of them. Knowledge has to be found by going to the sources - you cannot rely on that crap anymore.

That is why Wikipedia & co are now at best used to look up some irrelevant common non-political data like what kind of flower or chemical compound that is.

Post: #18

I volunteer to write the chapter on Little Dark.

Post: #19

This might be of use. It's an overview of the Pua scene starting from Newsgroups ( 1999 ) to Fastseduction, to The Game, etc.

Post: #20

(08-21-2018 07:05 AM)Thomas the Rhymer Wrote:  I volunteer to write the chapter on Little Dark.

Impossible. That chapter would have to be thousands of pages long due to the epics of the God, Little Dark.

Who knows what life altering events we have missed since he has been banned.

Since he's been gone, that motherfucker probably defused a nuclear bomb with his 14 inch cock to prevent World War III.

Post: #21

(08-26-2018 12:09 PM)Zep Wrote:  This might be of use. It's an overview of the Pua scene starting from Newsgroups ( 1999 ) to Fastseduction, to The Game, etc.

It started way before that with some courses going back to the 1970s. Ross Jeffries came out actually before most in an organized way. Mystery was later even if he got the most publicity, but actually the forums helped by pooling joint knowledge and testing concepts. It took the men some 20 years to compile a guideline that encompasses everything from direct, indirect, street, night, club, supermarket, as well as married-man Game. Then you had the invaluable bible of the Red Pill written by Rollo Tomassi.

Currently hardly anything truly new came out in recent years after the excellent works by Nick Krauser who compiled some good tools. After 2015 hardly anything drastically new came out.

Interesting what Roosh's newest Game book will be about - maybe it will compile it all into one.

All in all - the basic science has been done - all grassroots and all without any funding.

What I could imagine to be highly efficient would be a VR video game that would let you learn Game faster using the current seduction knowledge. It would be a good business idea as well, but that is just the same information with a different teaching tool.

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< That's the low-tech low-budget version. What I have in mind is more immersive and more expensive.

Post: #24

(08-26-2018 02:00 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  

This is more like an interactive scenario-based game tutorial similar to dating sims rather than a book but good job.

There's plenty more as searching for pua on Udemy reveals several CAD 12.99 courses and let's not get started on Amazon.