Post: #1

I have traveled extensively to South America and South East Asia and I have noticed a decline over the last years in terms of the quality you can get while traveling short term. I mean up to 2 weeks maximum.
I have also noticed that even getting 5s is getting harder and harder, so we will soon be banging 4s. But then, short term traveling for girls loses its purpose and rather stay in the West than suffering in shitholes to get average pussy.
I'm an average guy like the majority on this forum. I would say i'm a 5.5 looks wise with good game. I'm just a bit short and that limits my chances.
I would like to read what you guys thinking and suggesting, as we need at least to maintain the 5s we bang, otherwise we will go lower than that.

Post: #2

(08-21-2018 10:00 AM)sarcofago Wrote:  ... so we will soon be banging 4s.

...we need at least to maintain the 5s

...we will go lower than that.

What's this "we" stuff?

Post: #3

(08-21-2018 10:00 AM)sarcofago Wrote:  I have also noticed that even getting 5s is getting harder and harder

The reason for this is answered by the next section of your post:

(08-21-2018 10:00 AM)sarcofago Wrote:  I would say i'm a 5.5 looks wise with good game. I'm just a bit short and that limits my chances.

You clearly can't overcome what you consider to be a poor part of your image, if you thought positively and gamed regardless, you'd have better luck as a confident man rather than a self-conscious short man.

Post: #4

If you're on this forum, you aren't average.

Being short doesn't mean shit, but you might need a big dog and tattoos to attract girls tho....

Post: #5

Yeah, nah...

If you're banging 5s that doesn't mean "we" are...

If you're quality is declining then maybe you've lost your touch or you're letting yourself go.

Post: #6

No. When I travel I usually pull girls 0.5-1 points higher than I do in my home town because it's a fresh city of possible leads so I can burn through more at a rapid rate.

It depends on your game style. Some guys are slow burn. My style is very fast and polarizing out of preference.

If you self-identify as a 5.5 it might be because you are so you'll get girls similar caliber or it could be because of your self-identification that you project that SMV and attract like-wise. Which one it is I'm not sure but if it's possible to max out your SMV higher than every guy should.

Post: #7

Do you pipeline?

How do you game when you land in countries X, Y, and Z?

Are you consistently revisiting the same cities over and over again? I have noticed a very real drop in "talent levels" in specific cities over the years. It could be that the overall numbers are dropping, so your girls are just a reflection of the total talent.

Post: #8

Thank you, guys, for these nuggets of wisdom. Really appreciate it.

@Robreke, I say ''we'', trusting common sense. When some guys have 500 or 1500 posts on the forum, I don't think they bang 8s and 9s, but struggle. Maybe I'm wrong who knows. Why should you post a lot, if you bang a lot?

@Kaotic, I do have a big house and a big dog and a pickup and a big dick. It doesn't make any difference.

@Tigerman. I don't pipeline, I usually game with my dog in the streets and parks. Some nightgame also, but hate it.

@Bikal. I'm confident.

Sometimes, especially in SEA, I smoke after banging some hoe and burst into tears. I feel sorry about myself guys, asking ''What the fuck are you doing in this shithole? Why are you here?''

Post: #9

(08-21-2018 03:51 PM)sarcofago Wrote:  Sometimes, especially in SEA, I smoke after banging some hoe and burst into tears. I feel sorry about myself guys, asking ''What the fuck are you doing in this shithole? Why are you here?''

Epic.

Post: #10

LOL @ cry

Post: #11

(08-21-2018 03:51 PM)sarcofago Wrote:  Sometimes, especially in SEA, I smoke after banging some hoe and burst into tears. I feel sorry about myself guys, asking ''What the fuck are you doing in this shithole? Why are you here?''

This mean only 1 thing, you pushed yourself out of your comfort zone only to notice that the reward isn't worth the investment, you need to lower your standards or get out of there to go after some more prestigious preys

Post: #12

(08-21-2018 03:51 PM)sarcofago Wrote:  Thank you, guys, for these nuggets of wisdom. Really appreciate it.

@Robreke, I say ''we'', trusting common sense. When some guys have 500 or 1500 posts on the forum, I don't think they bang 8s and 9s, but struggle. Maybe I'm wrong who knows. Why should you post a lot, if you bang a lot?

@Kaotic, I do have a big house and a big dog and a pickup and a big dick. It doesn't make any difference.

@Tigerman. I don't pipeline, I usually game with my dog in the streets and parks. Some nightgame also, but hate it.

@Bikal. I'm confident.

Sometimes, especially in SEA, I smoke after banging some hoe and burst into tears. I feel sorry about myself guys, asking ''What the fuck are you doing in this shithole? Why are you here?''

You're wrong. I bang a lot and have about 1000 posts on another forum. game at a high level and experience is very niche so being able to share with guys who can possibly relate is invaluable for other perspectives and comradery. Especially once you realize that girls are never really your 'friends' deep into the game.

This is a problem with n00bs. They misunderstand things and often ask the wrong questions / assumptions.

Post: #13

You take your dog to South America and SE Asia with you to pick up chicks?

Post: #14

Banging 5s is the fate of most men.

Let's be real. Most guys apply game, style, fitness, and self-improvement in a half-hearted manner. When you do this you end up mediocre and are limited to 5s. I'd say this is true even of guys living in places long-term.

When you read about guys smashing 100+ chicks in a year, rest assured that it's most likely something like 75% 5s.

Post: #15

(08-21-2018 09:21 PM)Fortis Wrote:  When you read about guys smashing 100+ chicks in a year, rest assured that it's most likely something like 75% 5s.

And the other 25% are worse...

Post: #16

(08-21-2018 11:04 PM)Irish Wrote:  

(08-21-2018 09:21 PM)Fortis Wrote:  When you read about guys smashing 100+ chicks in a year, rest assured that it's most likely something like 75% 5s.

And the other 25% are worse...

I banged about 100 girls in SEA over the year (didn't count exactly) and I'd say that's an accurate assessment.
- About 70% were 5s and 6s.
- Then the odd top 10% were 7s who looked better IRL (either didn't know how to take good pics or they were into my type of guy - I look half-asian). The "true" 7s in the meaning of they are 7s both IRL and on pictures usually flake on me, they go for the higher SMV guys who have great IG pictures / are jacked etc.
- Finally there is my bottom 20% of girls I banged (4s and even a few 3s), that I try to forget. Usually because I was horny and when she showed up I did the charity bang. Those are usually the girls who came just 1-2h after saying "hey".

As a comparison in Colombia it was way worse, average was probably 4s with a few 5s. Got the odd 7 one time who almost escaped from my condo but I somewhat managed to bang her and meet her again until I left her city.

Post: #17

(08-21-2018 09:09 PM)scotian Wrote:  You take your dog to South America and SE Asia with you to pick up chicks?

Yes, but not to pick up chicks. I don't want to leave him alone behind.

Post: #18

(08-21-2018 11:54 PM)pussy sniffer Wrote:  

(08-21-2018 11:04 PM)Irish Wrote:  

(08-21-2018 09:21 PM)Fortis Wrote:  When you read about guys smashing 100+ chicks in a year, rest assured that it's most likely something like 75% 5s.

And the other 25% are worse...

I banged about 100 girls in SEA over the year (didn't count exactly) and I'd say that's an accurate assessment.
- About 70% were 5s and 6s.
- Then the odd top 10% were 7s who looked better IRL (either didn't know how to take good pics or they were into my type of guy - I look half-asian). The "true" 7s in the meaning of they are 7s both IRL and on pictures usually flake on me, they go for the higher SMV guys who have great IG pictures / are jacked etc.
- Finally there is my bottom 20% of girls I banged (4s and even a few 3s), that I try to forget. Usually because I was horny and when she showed up I did the charity bang. Those are usually the girls who came just 1-2h after saying "hey".

As a comparison in Colombia it was way worse, average was probably 4s with a few 5s. Got the odd 7 one time who almost escaped from my condo but I somewhat managed to bang her and meet her again until I left her city.

If your approach is pure numbers you'll probably get some crap but if you're getting that much crap then your game is severely lacking, whole idea of game is to get better quality girls, it's about becoming higher value. If all you want to do is clean the gutters out then you're missing the whole point. Any moderately decent looking person can clear out that trash.

Post: #19

(08-21-2018 09:21 PM)Fortis Wrote:  Banging 5s is the fate of most men.

Let's be real. Most guys apply game, style, fitness, and self-improvement in a half-hearted manner. When you do this you end up mediocre and are limited to 5s. I'd say this is true even of guys living in places long-term.

When you read about guys smashing 100+ chicks in a year, rest assured that it's most likely something like 75% 5s.

I don't think there is "fate" for a guy that's constantly improving. And a guy that bangs 50-100 girls in a year is constantly learning new techniques, closing abilities, what turns girls on, reading body language, efficient targeting, etc. It's the same as practicing anything in life, assuming your looks are at least being maintained, which I might add.. for many of the guys on this forum are likely getting better as they get up into their early 30s.

If you can constantly get better gains at the gym while doing the same amount of reps, if you get better at singing while signing the same amount each day, why wouldn't you be able to get better looking girls if you are pulling once every 3-4 day and practicing new techniques. If is skilled enough to bang 100+ in a year, he's in the 100% of none celebrities in picking up. Therefore, if he's settling with 5s, that's a personal preference or he's selling himself short. Myself, along with *most* of the guys I know that are doing so are A. Themselves a 7-8, B. Not in SEA, C. Travelling and financially set and D. less than 20% come from online dating - on average there are 6s and 7s, with a few 8-9s and a few 5s mixed in. If I do a 5 it's normally for a funny story or a rare flag, because why not.

To the original point of this thread, I don't see why the usual outcome of short term travelling has much, if any, relation to the quality of the girls you sleep with unless we are talking about some conservative place that requires multiple dates- ie Kiev, or if you rely only on day game. If you are mixing day game, night game, and online game, there shouldn't be much variance between short term traveling, long term traveling, and being home aside from the average quality of women overall in the place you are visiting.

Post: #20

(08-21-2018 04:04 PM)Dulceácido Wrote:  

(08-21-2018 03:51 PM)sarcofago Wrote:  Sometimes, especially in SEA, I smoke after banging some hoe and burst into tears. I feel sorry about myself guys, asking ''What the fuck are you doing in this shithole? Why are you here?''

Epic.

I'd cry too if I traveled all the way to SEA for pussy and only snagged a 5

Post: #21

(08-21-2018 11:54 PM)pussy sniffer Wrote:  

(08-21-2018 11:04 PM)Irish Wrote:  

(08-21-2018 09:21 PM)Fortis Wrote:  When you read about guys smashing 100+ chicks in a year, rest assured that it's most likely something like 75% 5s.

And the other 25% are worse...

I banged about 100 girls in SEA over the year (didn't count exactly) and I'd say that's an accurate assessment.
- About 70% were 5s and 6s.
- Then the odd top 10% were 7s who looked better IRL (either didn't know how to take good pics or they were into my type of guy - I look half-asian). The "true" 7s in the meaning of they are 7s both IRL and on pictures usually flake on me, they go for the higher SMV guys who have great IG pictures / are jacked etc.
- Finally there is my bottom 20% of girls I banged (4s and even a few 3s), that I try to forget. Usually because I was horny and when she showed up I did the charity bang. Those are usually the girls who came just 1-2h after saying "hey".

As a comparison in Colombia it was way worse, average was probably 4s with a few 5s. Got the odd 7 one time who almost escaped from my condo but I somewhat managed to bang her and meet her again until I left her city.

I was thinking about doing Thailand in winter but the 1% aids rate scares me. Especially since I like to go raw supplementary raw sometimes so I guess that's out the window.

What's your opinion/perspective on this? I'd imagine a large swath is lady boys but still.

Post: #22

(08-22-2018 03:00 PM)jacknap Wrote:  

(08-21-2018 11:54 PM)pussy sniffer Wrote:  

(08-21-2018 11:04 PM)Irish Wrote:  

(08-21-2018 09:21 PM)Fortis Wrote:  When you read about guys smashing 100+ chicks in a year, rest assured that it's most likely something like 75% 5s.

And the other 25% are worse...

I banged about 100 girls in SEA over the year (didn't count exactly) and I'd say that's an accurate assessment.
- About 70% were 5s and 6s.
- Then the odd top 10% were 7s who looked better IRL (either didn't know how to take good pics or they were into my type of guy - I look half-asian). The "true" 7s in the meaning of they are 7s both IRL and on pictures usually flake on me, they go for the higher SMV guys who have great IG pictures / are jacked etc.
- Finally there is my bottom 20% of girls I banged (4s and even a few 3s), that I try to forget. Usually because I was horny and when she showed up I did the charity bang. Those are usually the girls who came just 1-2h after saying "hey".

As a comparison in Colombia it was way worse, average was probably 4s with a few 5s. Got the odd 7 one time who almost escaped from my condo but I somewhat managed to bang her and meet her again until I left her city.

I was thinking about doing Thailand in winter but the 1% aids rate scares me. Especially since I like to go raw supplementary raw sometimes so I guess that's out the window.

What's your opinion/perspective on this? I'd imagine a large swath is lady boys but still.

In almost all countries that I have seen population studies of, the HIV/AIDS (and other serious diseases, for that matter) infection rates for trans(anything)/ladyboy/kathoey were around 30x that of the heterosexual, sexually-active population.

The issue with this in places like SEA is that you might not realize you are banging a post-op until it is too late. So, condoms?

Edit: Also, it's not like Thailand is unique in this area. Obviously, Africa is the hot spot for HIV infection rates. But, other places have rates comparable to Thailand. Ukraine is at something like 0.96%.

Post: #23

This thread...

If your banging 5s or as you I say "average" gals than your probably a beggar and doing things wrong...

Even my boy who has been traveling has upped his quality after we had a "talk" to drop the PUA dogma...

In Bangkok his FB was a stripper with fake tits
In Taiwan his FBs was a big booty Asian & a 5'8+ asian model

Yea most average dudes will only bang 5s...

Post: #24

(08-21-2018 11:54 PM)pussy sniffer Wrote:  

(08-21-2018 11:04 PM)Irish Wrote:  

(08-21-2018 09:21 PM)Fortis Wrote:  When you read about guys smashing 100+ chicks in a year, rest assured that it's most likely something like 75% 5s.

And the other 25% are worse...

I banged about 100 girls in SEA over the year (didn't count exactly) and I'd say that's an accurate assessment.
- About 70% were 5s and 6s.
- Then the odd top 10% were 7s who looked better IRL (either didn't know how to take good pics or they were into my type of guy - I look half-asian). The "true" 7s in the meaning of they are 7s both IRL and on pictures usually flake on me, they go for the higher SMV guys who have great IG pictures / are jacked etc.
- Finally there is my bottom 20% of girls I banged (4s and even a few 3s), that I try to forget. Usually because I was horny and when she showed up I did the charity bang. Those are usually the girls who came just 1-2h after saying "hey".

As a comparison in Colombia it was way worse, average was probably 4s with a few 5s. Got the odd 7 one time who almost escaped from my condo but I somewhat managed to bang her and meet her again until I left her city.

I've lived in Thailand for 2 year cumulative. Thank you for having the balls to be honest. This is a +1 from me.

Post: #25

(08-21-2018 09:09 PM)scotian Wrote:  You take your dog to South America and SE Asia with you to pick up chicks?

Savage.