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I have spent a good deal of the last 4 years searching for a wife. I have traveled and lived overseas (Russia) and dated women pre marriage in a few of the choice RVF countries. From my experience I would rate the following on Motherly love:

1. Philippines - Women here are the ultimate caregivers. I know at least 10 Philippina nurses in the USA. They just love to care for others and they dont care about your age or your looks. Provide for them and you will be fine. They also value mixed children a lot. If you combine races with them, they will hold it as a badge of honor in their community. They also believe in monotheism which is great for doing the right thing when no one is looking. Best caretakers, hands down. You just cant go wrong with spreading your seed in this country (obvious P4P excluded).

2. Venezuela - Awesome girls and also very influenced by monotheism. I found these girls to also be longsuffering in their caring nature. They come from a destabilized situation and look for security. Excellent caretakers as well with beauty and traditionalism at the forefront. More beautiful than Philippina women (subjective) but also more likely to be taking low paying jobs in South America vs. Colombians and Brazilians which means they are often less educated. Great mom sex too. Temper can be a negative. Feisty.

3. Russia - With our without you these women go on. This will be their downside as they do not need to depend on a man as much. In Russia, the child belongs to the Mother. You as a father are less important and will diminish your role as well as responsibility. As a divorcee this can work to your advantage as a woman will forgive you for not being at the child’s beck and call 24/7. Your child will be raised in a non feminist society. If your are white, your children will blend with you well. Both my sisters are adopted Russian orphans and no one ever asks if we are not biologically related. Your children will be smart and cultured. A shield from feminism is certainly a rarity to cover them from.

4. Thailand - The most libertarian of the group. They see their responsibility regardless of what you do. Family and friends are everything. They are not as open, but will take that child and make it her world. She may exclude you from your importance as a father. Also Buddhism is a major consideration. It is a works based religion which has its benefits, but in my opinion not the best for child rearing, which I believe to be Judeo Christian.

5. Your Country - There is some advantage to having a mother from the country you come from. You will understand her upbringing. Your child will not split your culture. No one will ever question you or your intentions. This is certainly the safest route and the route of many. I went this way with my son. He is deeply rooted in my country of origin and we feel no cultural separation.

Post: #2

Great points all around!

Post: #3

4 years to find a wife? Yikes

Post: #4

If you are a white guy looking for wife to start a family and have children, I do not recommend Asian girls - children with mixed race have problems with identity and might get cast out from societies of both races. Non-aztec, non mulatto, looking Hispanics are all right trough.

Within white race, far more important then country is religiousness. Find a girl that goes to church each Sunday. I recommend aligning with a religious denomination and seeking women within their circles. For Catholics, international events where you can meet girls from other countries is a common thing. Protestant churches are probably more divided and more local.

Post: #5

Interesting thread. Although I'm just 27, I'm already planning for the time 30+ while travelling. We just had numerous threads on RVF which reported about failed export of girls to the member's home country. This is why, I probably have to live in the mother's country. Within a specific country, regions and lifestyles can vary greatly. Therefore, I'm not looking for the best nation for potential future mothers, but for the best city I want to live and raise a family in. My short-list so far:

1. Fukuoka, Japan: Green and spacious 2nd tier Japanese city. Obviously as all of Japan tremendously clean and safe. It's cheap as well. Easily most feminine women in the world. More, Fukuoka is surrounded by beautiful nature and has great food. Not to mention that it has all the amenities of a developed country. Of course there are a couple of downsides all linked to your foreignness. The language is super difficult and nobody speaks English. You will always be "the foreigner". Your kids will be rooted in Japanese society, so there will be a distance between you and your children.

2. Frankfurt, Germany: World-Class city with a population of only 700k. This means great infrastructure, business opportunities, entertainment, restaurants, education, all without the downsides of mega cities. It's my home country, so no cultural or linguistically barriers. As an international city, there are girls from all countries around the world. Unfortunately, I can't rate the city as safe. Too many refugees and immigrants. This will end badly.

3. Medellin, Colombia: Spectacular city and no words needed. I think the Spaniards did a great job over there and I don't feel too much cultural distance to Europe. Safety is the major downside. It's just not possible to leave the city with your car for a weekend without having fear of being shot or kidnapped. Just imagine a world-wide economic crisis and how bad the situation might turn. Another downside is that your kids have to been raised and live in a "emerging country" (bad education, bad job perspectives).

4. Valencia, Spain: Perfectly sized city (600k) at the Spanish coast. Great food, fun nightlife, good climate and cheap. One can also integrated quite well here and Spanish isn't too difficult to learn. The city has a sizeable Latin community, so one can ignore bitchy Spanish women. Downsides: It's Spain. Bad education, dirty, lazy people, lefty politics, fucked up economy, demographics and so on.


I think this short-list is almost finalised. Will check-out Moscow and Buenos Aires the next year, but don't expect them to add.

Post: #6

If we are talking purely mother love many muslim countries would be first as it is a very family oriented culture. Women are expected to live for their children/husband and forget about friends and going out (if they ever have done it anyway).
If we talk about women that would make great wives AND mothers things gets more interesting.

As many others in this forum I have put a lot of thought about this.
I have taken out of consideration countries where culture is too different from mine, e.g. most of Asia, SubSaharian Africa and Anglo saxons countries.
Forget about countries where there is too much influence of the mother on child upbringing (Russia, Germany etc.) and culture is too sexually liberated like Cuba or Dominican Republic.

Top ranking choices are countries where there is still a macho culture and an heavy influence of Catolicism like Italy, Mexico, Argentina, Venezuela, Portugal and Spain (a bit further down). In this countries there is an expectation that its the women to take care of children, do house chores etc. Also boys are more privileged than girls growing up, have more freedom etc.
I have not included Brazil as it is a very sexual liberal country, don't want my son to have a mom bum bum sexual fantasy.


Second tier choices countries where Catholicism is not the main religion but culture is still masculine and fairly conservative, like Albania, Greece, Cyprus, Israel, Turkey.


Third tier choices countries that are more liberal but have conservative areas and also have big communities of second generation immigrants like France and United States. Prefer the 2nd generation of your country over another community that has nothing in common with yours.

Special mention would be for countries that are very family centred but religion could be a problem. Jordan, Lebanon, Iran, Morocco.
Best bet would be to get the ones that are living away from their countries and have assimilated at least a bit to western lifestyle.

Post: #7

Good thread idea. I would be interested in hearing your (or someone else's) take on Ukrainian, Polish, and Romanian mothers in the same vein (or perhaps Ukrainian mothers are so similar to their Russian counterparts that there's no need in making a comparison).

Post: #8

(08-25-2018 09:40 PM)WashedUPVet Wrote:  3. Russia - With our without you these women go on. This will be their downside as they do not need to depend on a man as much. In Russia, the child belongs to the Mother. You as a father are less important and will diminish your role as well as responsibility. As a divorcee this can work to your advantage as a woman will forgive you for not being at the child’s beck and call 24/7. Your child will be raised in a non feminist society. If your are white, your children will blend with you well. Both my sisters are adopted Russian orphans and no one ever asks if we are not biologically related. Your children will be smart and cultured. A shield from feminism is certainly a rarity to cover them from.

This is very accurate in my experience. Russian girls make great girlfriends but dangerous wives - their intelligence and upbringing makes them too independent. She probably grew up seeing her mother run the house while her father was out living his life like a single man. Soviet indoctrination was pro-motherhood but very much against the nuclear family; everyone was seen as a 'child of the state'. That culture still lingers today.

Even if discounting the divorce risk, you probably won't have much say in how your children are raised unless you're able to be at home 24/7 (location independent/work from home situation).

Your children will be intelligent and cultured, but they may have trouble adapting to Western etiquette. They're often seen as being impolite in the UK and especially Latin Europe.

(08-26-2018 10:41 AM)Alpha_Romeo Wrote:  Good thread idea. I would be interested in hearing your (or someone else's) take on Ukrainian, Polish, and Romanian mothers in the same vein (or perhaps Ukrainian mothers are so similar to their Russian counterparts that there's no need in making a comparison).

The Ukraine's eastern and southern regions (from around Kiev and Odessa eastward) share the same culture as the southern part of Russia (Krasnodar and Rostov on Don). They're descendents of the Cossacks, not that it matters much as the influence of the more recent Soviet and post-Soviet periods are retained to a much greater degree today.

The western part of the country was annexed during WWII and that region has a lot of Polish influence to this day.

Post: #9

Quote:1. Philippines - Women here are the ultimate caregivers. I know at least 10 Philippina nurses in the USA. They just love to care for others and they dont care about your age or your looks. Provide for them and you will be fine. They also value mixed children a lot. If you combine races with them, they will hold it as a badge of honor in their community. They also believe in monotheism which is great for doing the right thing when no one is looking. Best caretakers, hands down. You just cant go wrong with spreading your seed in this country (obvious P4P excluded).

What about loyalty though? I've heard they're not that loyal and they lie a lot.

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(08-26-2018 06:24 AM)semibaron Wrote:  3. Medellin, Colombia: Spectacular city and no words needed. I think the Spaniards did a great job over there and I don't feel too much cultural distance to Europe. Safety is the major downside. It's just not possible to leave the city with your car for a weekend without having fear of being shot or kidnapped. Just imagine a world-wide economic crisis and how bad the situation might turn. Another downside is that your kids have to been raised and live in a "emerging country" (bad education, bad job perspectives).

I've driven all over the country including hours on back-country dirt roads in the middle of the night. There is danger in some areas, but not in most of the country where you'd want to drive. Near Medellin there are very few problems that I've ever seen. In fact, I'd rather drive around most of the country than through many barrios in Medellin where even the taxi drivers fear to go. Education is certainly a downside, but nothing money can't solve; there are plenty of high-quality private schools.

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(08-26-2018 02:21 PM)WombRaider Wrote:  

Quote:1. Philippines - Women here are the ultimate caregivers. I know at least 10 Philippina nurses in the USA. They just love to care for others and they dont care about your age or your looks. Provide for them and you will be fine. They also value mixed children a lot. If you combine races with them, they will hold it as a badge of honor in their community. They also believe in monotheism which is great for doing the right thing when no one is looking. Best caretakers, hands down. You just cant go wrong with spreading your seed in this country (obvious P4P excluded).

What about loyalty though? I've heard they're not that loyal and they lie a lot.

Compared to what?

Also, many guys giving feedback online on women in countries abroad are 9 to 5'ers doing two week trips for their once a year vacation, how much loyalty can you expect from anyone you've only spent time with for two weeks? Sometimes they don't even speak the girl's native language. Those guys are also usually talking to a bunch of women online at the same time. The fact they even expect any loyalty while doing that is pretty surprising, but speaks to the naivety of many men.

There's a lot of noise in the area, you've got to do a lot of filtering before you can get at truths that apply to your situation.

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I'll rank the five countries I've had the most exposure to really judge.

1. Philippines- I still find these women to be the best I've ever dealt with. Some of them show some very intense love, with insecurity and jealousy being overwhelming sometimes. It's somewhat true what was said above about lying and cheating, but that's usually from more beta personalities or guys that only show up a couple weeks a year from what I hear. That can be true almost anywhere. Get the right one though, they will basically be a dream girlfriend/wife, and the one I was more serious with showed some incredible motherly tendencies towards other children. One of the only girls I ever met I could've imagined making a great mom for my kids.

2. Japan- I found these girls to be the most reserved/shy in public from what I've seen. The downside seems to be that Japan is the most difficult country to integrate into of the countries I will mention. I never dated a Japanese girl seriously but from what I saw, it seems like if you put in the work and overcome the foreigner stigma, show respect to culture and whatnot, you may be able to find a Japanese girl that believes in a more conservative/traditional society.

3. Taiwan- I'm not as big on here as the other Asian countries I mentioned, but I still think it's better than a western country. I found Taiwan to be more of a mixed bag where western influence and feminism has kicked in a little bit, but yet they still have Chinese influence with some Japanese as well. So for the girls, it means you may get one that has some mild feminism or ones that are completely true to what you'd think an eastern asian girl would be. The ones I was involved with were very accommodating and feminine. Spending time with some local Taiwanese families up close, I felt like they provided good environments for children to grow up in.

4. Italy- I'm an American Italian, so more of my experience is seeing tight knit Italian families. The biggest positive of a true Italian woman is that family WILL BE EVERYTHING. This doesn't get talked about enough on the forum, but all of the Italian families I know are incredibly close, where everyone is your cousin, aunt, or uncle. I know people that are close with their fifth cousins here. So if you're looking for a mother that will believe in the nuclear family, Italian women are good for this. However, the reason why they're only fourth for me is because as women, they tend to be louder, more aggressive, may not age well, and shit tests tend to come up left and right. I feel like Italian women may be more materialistic too. So, it's a weird balance. These women do love their children and are probably more likely to stay with the family no matter what than other western women, but you have to have a strong personality as a dad because the stereotype of mama boy sons can be true here.

5. United States- I'm just not optimistic on American women being the best mothers. The culture just doesn't support families as discussed on the forum. They basically have the negatives of Italian women without the emphasis on families. I will say there are unicorns that are good women in the US or have a more ideal compatible mindset, but there's a lot more bullshit in my opinion to go through that here and chances are just less. Plus, fathers tend to have the least significant role nowadays in America of the five countries listed and some women won't let you forget that. I hate to talk so much shit about my own country and potentially give up on it for a family, but I just don't think American women are the most ideal mothers unless we see a change in the right direction.

Post: #13

(08-26-2018 03:18 AM)Henny Wrote:  4 years to find a wife? Yikes

Ive been looking for the last 15

Post: #14

Russian women become fridges after age 35. Of course Russian men are going to cheat when married to that. If a Russian guy is loyal then he probably has to pop a lot of Viagra in order to bone his wife.


In terms of aging and best mothering skills I don't think anyone can beat Japanese and Korean but the latent White Supremacy on this thread so far has most posters ignoring those two places. Although Mage brings up a decent point where mixed Asian kids (especially in USA) seem to have integration problems.


but to be honest most of you if you have kids are going to raise a bunch of brats. It's the standard in western culture for adult children to hate their parents and avoid or minimize contact with them. Fuck spending $120,000 on somebody that will resent you.

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(08-26-2018 10:55 PM)BaatumMania Wrote:  but to be honest most of you if you have kids are going to raise a bunch of brats. It's the standard in western culture for adult children to hate their parents and avoid or minimize contact with them. Fuck spending $120,000 on somebody that will resent you.

Yeah, I find it interesting when guys fret about paying for college expenses for someone that isn't even born yet.

Talk about putting the cart before the horse.

I'd give my kids free room and board while they attended college as long as they made good grades, but beyond that, I'm not sure yet. Not saying I definitely wouldn't, but the decision is just way too far off to fret about it.

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(08-26-2018 10:55 PM)BaatumMania Wrote:  Russian women become fridges after age 35. Of course Russian men are going to cheat when married to that. If a Russian guy is loyal then he probably has to pop a lot of Viagra in order to bone his wife.


In terms of aging and best mothering skills I don't think anyone can beat Japanese and Korean but the latent White Supremacy on this thread so far has most posters ignoring those two places. Although Mage brings up a decent point where mixed Asian kids (especially in USA) seem to have integration problems.


but to be honest most of you if you have kids are going to raise a bunch of brats. It's the standard in western culture for adult children to hate their parents and avoid or minimize contact with them. Fuck spending $120,000 on somebody that will resent you.

Serious thought/question. And, I'd love to hear from both camps (anti-miscegenation and IDGAF). I was raised as a third culture kid. I am white, as is my whole family, but I spent most of my childhood in a country that is not my own. I like to think that I turned out okay, and I can now fairly easily operate in numerous countries (including the country of my birth). I am wondering about the possibility of expanding this in to a mixed couple situation.

Say, for example, that I think that Japan might be one of the only countries to successfully barricade itself against the worldwide insanity of today. So, I decided to live there. Who knows how long it will take for the tide to turn? I'm not going to live forever, so I wife up and knock up a Japanese girl. But, I instil my children with classical western values and encourage them (perhaps economically) to return to a western country and marry a local there (provided the storm has passed - we are talking about maybe 30 years from now). I know a few 1/4 and 1/8 mixed people who completely pass as white and don't seem to have the hapa identity issues.

Obviously, if the world just falls apart (not like it hasn't happened before) then I have bigger things to worry about than my kid's identity issues. If on the other hand, the storm passes, and some of the west survives or makes a resurgence, how feasible would it be to produce somewhat culturally westernised mixed kids in a foreign country? The malleability of the wife would be a huge factor in this. But, in my experience, (some) Asian girls would be the most likely to follow the man's lead on this. Specific to the Philippines, I could see the wife loving the idea. Thoughts?

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(08-26-2018 03:18 AM)Henny Wrote:  4 years to find a wife? Yikes

Since you're new here I'll help you out with something: if you have nothing nice to say, best not to say anything at all.

Your snarky one-liner comment towards a member that went out of his way to provide honest intel for the betterment of this community isn't welcome. I'd post the GTFO gif but it's become played out.

Post: #18

Overreaction?, time of the month? Btw I always wondered why you call yourself nomadofeu but... don't actually appear to spend time there. What happened with Ukraine? You only made $500 a month teaching English to 5yr olds so your GF dumped you for fat Igor who makes $600?

4 years to be actively searching for a wife is a long time in my opinion, and that person may have set the standards too high. If a person wants to have kids too then time is ticking away, perhaps better to find a mother of your child

Post: #19

Polish women have been given the biggest attention on this forum. Not good now?

Post: #20

(08-27-2018 04:16 AM)Henny Wrote:  Overreaction?, time of the month? Btw I always wondered why you call yourself nomadofeu but... don't actually appear to spend time there. What happened with Ukraine? You only made $500 a month teaching English to 5yr olds so your GF dumped you for fat Igor who makes $600?

4 years to be actively searching for a wife is a long time in my opinion, and that person may have set the standards too high. If a person wants to have kids too then time is ticking away, perhaps better to find a mother of your child

It's super easy to find a wife in the former Soviet Union (if you have no standards). Living 6 months in Georgia I think I've had up to 8 or more women who either on a date or Tinder were quizing me hard about marriage. Granted I suspected these women either wanted a spouse visa or were gold diggers.

If I had no money in the bank then I could be tempted to marry one of these FSU sluts and cum in her sugar walls but having a bunch a money means she can really screw me over in a divorce.

Most of the FSU countries (including Georgia) have a higher divorce rate than USA.

Post: #21

(08-26-2018 03:39 AM)Mage Wrote:  If you are a white guy looking for wife to start a family and have children, I do not recommend Asian girls - children with mixed race have problems with identity and might get cast out from societies of both races. Non-aztec, non mulatto, looking Hispanics are all right trough.

Within white race, far more important then country is religiousness. Find a girl that goes to church each Sunday. I recommend aligning with a religious denomination and seeking women within their circles. For Catholics, international events where you can meet girls from other countries is a common thing. Protestant churches are probably more divided and more local.

I married a Filipina last year. We are discussing kids and it basically has to happen fast due to my age (51 and her age 34). In our discussions I said that I wanted a daughter while she wants a son. I didn't come out and say it, but I think it is pretty much a fact that an asian-white mix girl will have a much easier time in life than an asian-white mix guy.

Post: #22

(08-27-2018 05:45 AM)66Scorpio Wrote:  I didn't come out and say it, but I think it is pretty much a fact that an asian-white mix girl will have a much easier time in life than an asian-white mix guy.

Totally true if you live in a western country. Not sure how it plays out in Asia.

The concerns about difficult adjusting to life for half-Asian kids apply almost exclusively to sons, from what I can tell. Definitely in western countries the majority will view half-Asian males as "Asian." Perhaps that's challenging when your father is non-Asian and can't fully relate to your life.

Post: #23

(08-27-2018 05:22 AM)BaatumMania Wrote:  Most of the FSU countries (including Georgia) have a higher divorce rate than USA.

Would you mind sharing where you found that information? All of the statistics I found pointed to Georgia having one of the lowest divorce rates in the world.

Post: #24

(08-27-2018 06:38 AM)WombRaider Wrote:  

(08-27-2018 05:45 AM)66Scorpio Wrote:  I didn't come out and say it, but I think it is pretty much a fact that an asian-white mix girl will have a much easier time in life than an asian-white mix guy.

Totally true if you live in a western country. Not sure how it plays out in Asia.

The concerns about difficult adjusting to life for half-Asian kids apply almost exclusively to sons, from what I can tell. Definitely in western countries the majority will view half-Asian males as "Asian." Perhaps that's challenging when your father is non-Asian and can't fully relate to your life.

I recall stumbling across a Reddit sub support group / bitch fest of half-asian guys. OTOH, a disproportionate number of the hottest female asian celebrities are mixed, or so it seems.

Post: #25

(08-27-2018 05:22 AM)BaatumMania Wrote:  

(08-27-2018 04:16 AM)Henny Wrote:  Overreaction?, time of the month? Btw I always wondered why you call yourself nomadofeu but... don't actually appear to spend time there. What happened with Ukraine? You only made $500 a month teaching English to 5yr olds so your GF dumped you for fat Igor who makes $600?

4 years to be actively searching for a wife is a long time in my opinion, and that person may have set the standards too high. If a person wants to have kids too then time is ticking away, perhaps better to find a mother of your child

It's super easy to find a wife in the former Soviet Union (if you have no standards). Living 6 months in Georgia I think I've had up to 8 or more women who either on a date or Tinder were quizing me hard about marriage. Granted I suspected these women either wanted a spouse visa or were gold diggers.

If I had no money in the bank then I could be tempted to marry one of these FSU sluts and cum in her sugar walls but having a bunch a money means she can really screw me over in a divorce.

Most of the FSU countries (including Georgia) have a higher divorce rate than USA.

If you don't mind me asking, if you have a bunch of money then why Batumi? Seems zero draw apart from it being a very cheap place to live and nice scenery