Post: #1

Do you just move on, or become more aggressive rather than just persistent?

Many girls seem to want to max out the attention they get from you before they give in, and I’m questioning whether it’s worth it to play the game, or if it’s better to move on quickly.

The hottest ones always end up cock teasing me. What am I doing wrong?

I can always get fast sex with certain slutty types, but never with the more sophisticated type of girls that really turn me on. Should I date these girls? Wouldn’t that send the wrong message? How do you avoid the boyfriend box and enter the “good for quick sex” one?

I am strictly after casual sex and fuck buddy type arrangements, and have gotten it with hot girls, but only after being at the end of a lot of cock teasing, and persistent play on my part.

Is being really sexual and aggressive a better plan? I feel there was a day when you could be, but in modern society I’m hesitant. Does going full caveman work with cock teases?

Post: #2

Move on.
If she keeps contacting you for the attention make fun of her for being desperate and also make fun of her for scaring all the guys away.
She'll either get offended and never speak to you again OR she push to meet up. Either way you win.

Post: #3

Move one. I don't even second think it. Life is too short to spend chasing one woman who isn't that interested. Plenty of other good looking women who are.

Post: #4

Entirely depends on how hot the girl is

Post: #5

If she is actually teasing you, then call her bluff. The is the sloots way of testing your creds. Well, not all sloots, as some do actually enjoy sex and the chemical release of pleasure. But many much prefer the power that comes with making a man look desperate.

If a girl is playing coy - or is actually coy - then its a different matter entirely. Its been covered a lot around here.

Post: #6

You should give more context. Where are these women teasing you? The club? At your place? What is your escalation like?

Personally for me, my formula is simple:

1) approach on ioi and ramble
2) escalate on any window she gives me
3) get compliance from her (venue change, move her around, get her number, makeout etc)
4) Use plausible deniability to get back to sex location

All of my lays/insta dates look exactly like that. Like clockwork.

When trying to close the deal, I usually use plausible deniability like "We should watch a movie at my place". An excuse to go to the sex location without overtly mentioning sex. If something happens, she can say it wasn't planned. I never ever mention sex. Years or working with hot women has taught me that for hot women, any excuse to be alone is implied that sex may happen so you don't need to be overt and desperate about it. The more discreet you act, the more experienced you look. Plausible deniability is actually female game. They use it on dudes they want to sleep with. It was used on me several times in social circles and sometimes at work or even the clubs before I was smart enough to start acting like I was "in the know."

Once I get to the sex location, I just act casual, close the distance, kino, and get her comfortable. I don't joke about sex or anything of that nature. At some point, there will be a moment of intense sexual tension (those damn movie moments) she looks into your eyes a second too long and YOU HAVE to go in for the passionate makeout. You cannot miss this window. This is usually followed by a lot of foreplay and eventually sex.

The whole entire time the underlying sexual tension was built up, and then it gets released. WHEN it gets released depends on her level of comfort. And you will know because she will give you a WINDOW. This release of tension alone is enough to spring her into full fledged sex with me.

This is my experience with "sophisicated" hb 8+. They don't run overt game. Everything they do is underlying. They have their own code that they universally follow. You have to present yourself as experienced, patient, relaxed, but at the same time strike when the window opens. Nobody jokes or talks about sex and the entire seduction is masked under the guise of plausible deniability.

Post: #7

^ So you’re saying to play it cool and aloof? Does cockteasing come because the girl senses too much keenness? Maybe that’s the case, I am rather aggressive...

Basically play it cool as fuck until the movie moment comes, then kiss her. The other part is just logistics.

Your vibe during the whole time is what? Perhaps my being too positive and asking questions makes girls want to exploit it.

Post: #8

If you have her number, take a selfie with another hottie and send it to her.

"How cute is this girl?"
"Do we make a good couple? I need a female opinion"

Something which will friendzone her, set off her internal wiring and basically auto-pedestalize. It's also pretty fun.

You can tell the girl in the pic it's for your friend/sister/whatever.

Fits in the roleplaying which you should be doing with girls anyways.

Not are we getting married but rather are we having 3 or 5 kids...

It's a general theme.

Post: #9

(09-22-2018 03:50 AM)Flux Wrote:  ^ So you’re saying to play it cool and aloof? Does cockteasing come because the girl senses too much keenness? Maybe that’s the case, I am rather aggressive...

Basically play it cool as fuck until the movie moment comes, then kiss her. The other part is just logistics.

Your vibe during the whole time is what? Perhaps my being too positive and asking questions makes girls want to exploit it.

My vibe is warm and friendly. People who netflix and chill are usually warm and friendly towards each other. You don't wanna break rapport. If you do act c0cky funny and break rapport, she can up the ante and make you even more frustrated. Act confident and humble, and then continue to escalate always works better.

If she tries to break rapport with me and c0ck tease, me I would just ignore it and change the frame. It's a sh1t test. Don't fall into her frame. I usually try to find something I like about her. I'll tell her something like "I really like your vibe. You are sexy and down to earth as well. I think that's why we get along." Then I move in close and touch her somehow. And kiss her shoulders while giving her a massage. That's my frame. The romantic/sexual frame.

As a hail mary, I would go down on her if she is hot enough. No woman can say no to oral sex. This is what seduction is. Everything else is going backwards. Your only job is to make her feel good and comfortable emotionally, and turning on her body. Everything else is a waste of time.

For all you know, she probably read a stupid article in Cosmo magazine written by a 65 year old woman with 9 cats that says teasing guys and playing hard to get is sexy. What if she is stupid and has no idea what she is doing?

Just forget her frame and lead her.

Forget her game. Just run your game. Escalation. Even if she teases me, I'll just say "I really like your sense of humor" and use it as a reason to escalate. The last thing I would do is engage in a battle with her. That's going backwards.

Edit: Sometimes a woman is uncomfortable with her attraction for you and will bait you into breaking rapport with her either through sh!t tests or dominating you like c0ck teasing. And once you fall for her game and start acting c0cky and funny/defensive and battling her, she can rationalize to herself "Ah ha. I knew he was a douchebag" and then move on. For some reason, women cannot move on until you blow yourself out. It's almost as if they are hardwired to comply to perfect game. So they set up traps for you to fail so they can rationalize rejecting you. I usually just ignore tests or change the frame entirely. Whatever I do, I do not acknowledge her frame if it is moving the interaction backwards.

Post: #10

Thanks man, you speak truth.

Game is not about what you know, but about applying it consistently; I know all these things, yet bad habits come in unexpectedly through the ups and downs, and slowly build up until you lose the power, and start acting cocky... I feel we must all remind each other what being a good leader and strong man is, because staying the course is hard indeed.

Insecurities that come creeping in make us act arrogantly and competitive in all the wrong ways, and that makes us look weak; of lower status.

Being strong and being it consistently through the ups and downs, may be life’s greatest challenge.

Post: #11

(09-22-2018 06:18 AM)Noir Wrote:  If you have her number, take a selfie with another hottie and send it to her.

"How cute is this girl?"
"Do we make a good couple? I need a female opinion"

Something which will friendzone her, set off her internal wiring and basically auto-pedestalize. It's also pretty fun.

You can tell the girl in the pic it's for your friend/sister/whatever.

Fits in the roleplaying which you should be doing with girls anyways.

Not are we getting married but rather are we having 3 or 5 kids...

It's a general theme.

This is solid. Cock teases are the perfect opportunities to test nuclear social proof and dread/jealousy game. Going sexual with them as the object plays into their hand. Going sexual with other girls and soliciting their sex neuter'd feedback robs them of their power (And they know it).