Post: #1

Well, I live in London and I have noticed an increasing difficulty to get same night lays over the last months. That's pretty unusual tbh. You meet girls, create rapport, hug and kiss, but when it comes to chill at yours after drinks, everything falls apart in seconds.
It obviously was not like that last year. It was way easier to pull. Your thoughts?

Post: #2

Zero.

Sounds like you need to calibrate or also realize it's cuffing season and girls want to lock down a BF not just a SNL.

I've go on a couple dates a week on top of rotating plates or getting new notches.

Other than maybe a few outliers most lays fall within in the same range as they always have with me.

Post: #3

Kaotic, are you sure, the situation is very difficult. I'm just trying to understand WTF is going on? Even the ones I bang have very weird and arrogant behavior after. Very unusual.

Post: #4

It's not difficult at all, I've never had a single conversation about this stupid #metoo movement or had a girl turn weird post sex.

If they ever did, they ghosted after and I never heard from them again, I can think of 2 off the top of my head in the last 5 months that did.

I've had probably 2 or 4 dates in the last few months where 2 I told I wasn't feeling it or 2 told me they weren't feeling it (even after a solid makeout) charge it to the game.

I think if you spend too much time reading about and posting about it online it gets into your head and you think every single girl is looking to catch you a rape charge.

That's unhealthy and can poison the way you game and act with women.

My tone/game/frame has never changed to ever address the #metoo movement.


Like I said sounds like you need to calibrate how you're closing these girls, you aren't building enough comfort, OR you're jumping the gun sexualizing too early, by hugging them and kissing them during the date (I don't do that).

You revealed your intentions too early, so now the girl knows what you're about. Instead of not making moves too early and keeping her guessing your intentions.

I only do the hugging and kissing end of date if I know I'm not taking them home or logistics suck.

I can't tell you how many girls didn't know if I was feeling them UNTIL I made a move end of date or when they were in my bed.

If it's post sex and they're arrogant or weird that sounds like you aren't dicking them down good or your comfort game needs work. I'm very affectionate post sex and also feed off their vibe and keep things light and funny.

Post: #5

Where are you based, Kaotic?

My logistics are always ideal btw. Maybe it's a big cities thing, as people here are brainwashed by the media all day.

Post: #6

Southern California, but recently was on the East Coast, The South and the Midwest.

I've gamed and banged in those locations as well.

Could be because you live in London a massive city and a different culture then America, let alone Southern California.

I still think it's mostly in a guys head versus girls being "empowered" and all that BS.

Take a feminist away from her henhouse and group think, game her appropriately, fuck her right, and she'll act feminine.

Post: #7

The other thing to mention is in any sample there's going to be outliers. If you're putting in the numbers and your game is tight, there will still be periods where you fail to close due to the law of averages. This isn't related to anything in particular, it's just something you have to charge to the game and keep powering forward.

For example, I was on a tear this summer, but this last month or so I've gone 0/6 in trying to convert serious prospects/SNLs into rotation girls. My game hasn't changed, and the women haven't changed, it's just the way it all shakes out sometimes. Don't stress too hard and keep putting in the numbers.

Post: #8

(10-16-2018 12:03 PM)kaotic Wrote:  I can't tell you how many girls didn't know if I was feeling them UNTIL I made a move end of date or when they were in my bed.

I can 100% relate to this part. I've heard this from women on quite a few occasions. They sometimes think on the 1st date I had some kind of poker face when in reality I might have been feeling them quite a bit!

Post: #9

No difference really. November from my experience is the hardest month in the Western world.

December is a bit better post Christmas. Uni girls off + new years.

Post: #10

This sort of stuff doesn't exist outside of the Humanities department at your local university. Girls want sex just as much as men do, and most are willing to at least talk to you if you have your life in order.

Nobody here is advocating for pushing through all resistance so that a girl regretfully has sex with you. It's not enjoyable unless both people enjoy it anyway. Rape culture is non existent off campus, even though every single university in my town (and I'm sure your town) is pushing the agenda.

Post: #11

(10-16-2018 02:44 PM)TheFinalEpic Wrote:  This sort of stuff doesn't exist outside of the Humanities department at your local university. Girls want sex just as much as men do, and most are willing to at least talk to you if you have your life in order.

Nobody here is advocating for pushing through all resistance so that a girl regretfully has sex with you. It's not enjoyable unless both people enjoy it anyway. Rape culture is non existent off campus, even though every single university in my town (and I'm sure your town) is pushing the agenda.

Yes and biology is stronger than culture in my opinion.

Post: #12

(10-16-2018 03:27 PM)jacknap Wrote:  

(10-16-2018 02:44 PM)TheFinalEpic Wrote:  This sort of stuff doesn't exist outside of the Humanities department at your local university. Girls want sex just as much as men do, and most are willing to at least talk to you if you have your life in order.

Nobody here is advocating for pushing through all resistance so that a girl regretfully has sex with you. It's not enjoyable unless both people enjoy it anyway. Rape culture is non existent off campus, even though every single university in my town (and I'm sure your town) is pushing the agenda.

Yes and biology is stronger than culture in my opinion.

Our brains been around hundreds of thousands of years. Feminism? just a tiny fraction of that.

Post: #13

(10-16-2018 02:44 PM)TheFinalEpic Wrote:  This sort of stuff doesn't exist outside of the Humanities department at your local university.

This is very true. Most of this toxic feminist shit doesn't exist outside of the internet either. We here on this forum can easily fall into the trap of getting extremely animated over whatever trait of masculinity is under attack this week.

Take manspreading for example. We all know what that is, what it means. Go outside and quiz a random stranger on the street about it and they'll not have a fucking clue what you're talking about.

Post: #14

A lot of people have something happen once or twice and they want to ascribe some master excuse to it.

You need a large amount of data before making conclusions. The simplest, most direct answer (Occam's razor) is still probably correct. Nothing has changed.