Post: #1

Hey, so I'm in high school and I have gynecomastia, I've had it since I think about

6th or 7th grade. A little of it is actual breast tissue I think, however most of it is

fat. Admittedly, they're def big enough to make the underclass girls maybe a bit

jealous (just joking for the most part there lol) anyways, yeah. I used to be made

fun of them until I figured out in 8th grade all there is too it is being confident

about them and not really caring. I have no problem getting girls and shit even

with my moobs, however, I am thinking perhaps this is simply because they are in

high school and are more naive and do not know what their preferences are. It's

cuffing season and I've been getting a lot of ioi's with girls and the likes but my

question is when I get out of high-school and start going to clubs and shit will

women care more? Honestly they wouldn't even notice until my shirt was off

because I have found the right way to dress in order to not show my moobs really,

but my last girlfriend for instance did not mind and she still went crazy even when

she would touch my chest. But yeah, sorry for the long text and all but I feel this

is a question that needs to be asked because we're poor so surgery is not an

option. I know pushups and working out would certainly help but how much of an

effect would this have considering a little of it is def breast tissue? Thanks, and

sorry for the text block.

Post: #2

Search on here for Keto and low carb diets. Get dieting. Good luck bro. Now is a fantastic time for you to discover how your body works and get healthy diet patterns for life.

No gym will fix moobs without diet too, but start a lifting program too.

Don’t look for a quick fix, cause there isn’t one. A healthy diet and a lifting program should be the foundation of your lifestyle.

Post: #3

Serious question. What is causing this mass proliferation of gyno amongst young guys? Seems to be an epidemic.

If you've been abusing roids I get it, but with endogenous hormones I can't grasp how men's estrogen levels would get that out of whack.

Post: #4

(10-29-2018 03:28 AM)roberto Wrote:  Search on here for Keto and low carb diets. Get dieting. Good luck bro. Now is a fantastic time for you to discover how your body works and get healthy diet patterns for life.

No gym will fix moobs without diet too, but start a lifting program too.

Don’t look for a quick fix, cause there isn’t one. A healthy diet and a lifting program should be the foundation of your lifestyle.

Yes to all this. 40 year old ShitFacedPanda will thank you if you build a solid physical foundation for the rest of your life. It sounds like you're doing well mentally and socially, so get cracking on the weights, and eliminate sugar and junk food from your diet.

Post: #5

I had this problem at age 16. If you get into the right lifestyle it will fix itself naturally. You have to do these things:

- Stop drinking and eating from all plastics
- Only drink water
- Avoid cheap meat as it is loaded with hormones, especially chicken
- Hit the gym and do sports in general but especially do loads of pushups
- Make your workouts high intensity

If you do all of these things you will not have moobs in a few months, it is a hormonal imbalance which is common at your age.

Post: #6

(10-29-2018 03:40 AM)Trumpian Wrote:  Serious question. What is causing this mass proliferation of gyno amongst young guys? Seems to be an epidemic.

If you've been abusing roids I get it, but with endogenous hormones I can't grasp how men's estrogen levels would get that out of whack.

Most of the moobs you see are actually fat. You can blame the obesity epidemic.

Post: #7

Cut out gluten , it might help you.
I had an issue and discovered it was gluten.I cut gluten and it went away..
Everytime I eat something with gluten now I start getting the tits within 4 days.
My brother had the same issue until I convinced him to cut gluten.

You will lose weight cutting gluten

All the flour used in Oz the US and UK etc is highly processed shit compared to Europe.

Lucky for me I have a bakery that only does bread Euro style and this is what my kids eat..

Post: #8

(10-29-2018 05:23 AM)The Stronger Sex Wrote:  

(10-29-2018 03:40 AM)Trumpian Wrote:  Serious question. What is causing this mass proliferation of gyno amongst young guys? Seems to be an epidemic.

If you've been abusing roids I get it, but with endogenous hormones I can't grasp how men's estrogen levels would get that out of whack.

Most of the moobs you see are actually fat. You can blame the obesity epidemic.

Gyno is actually legit breast tissue. If they lose fat, they might go down from a c cup to an A cup. But they still have tits lol

Post: #9

Hey buddy, it's pretty tough to live with and can be embarrassing because you will feel insecure and probably ashamed about it.

Easy for us to say you shouldn't but that's unfortunately how it is.

It happens to 1/3 boys under 18 and for some it doesn't go away. I was one of these kids and it made my life pretty difficult, I was very self conscious of it.

Pinch around your nipples (like an OK diver's sign) and see if you feel a hard lump.

If so, that's the breast tissue (gyno).

I developed this as my mother insisted on me being vegetarian when I was < 10 years old and I had soy (lol) in my diet. Gluten, sugar and unhealthy lifestyles perpetuate it too.


Step 1 - Speak to your parents and make sure they understand/you're on the same page.

Do some research, go through it with them and speak to them. I am sure they will have noticed as well. I know another kid who has it now (girlfriend's family) who hasn't mentioned it to his parents but they already know.

You just need to let them know how it affects you and that it's serious.

edit: called my girl now and she mentioned that he was put on some estrogen-suppressing steroids this week. That might be an option too, as per your visit to the endocrinologist. I don't know about US health laws though. He is 14, for what it's worth. Too young if you ask me but he also has other problems.


Step 2 - Visit an endocrinologist

This is the doctor who will do tests to check your hormones. Gyno is breast tissue that is hardened, just under your nipple. Sometimes it's temporary, other times it's permanent.

He/she will be able to confirm your estrogen levels and advise on what the best course of action is.


Step 3 - Hit the gym and lose as much body fat as you can + clean up your diet

Some guys have puffy nipples, genetically. They come out when your body fat % is above a certain threshold. Try and shed as much as you can and use the process of elimination to figure out if it's permanent or not, with the advice of doctors.

Also, decline bench press can help flatten it out but of course, to a degree.

Eat as clean as possible. You're fortunate as you have a reason and motivation to and this will carry you far in life.


Step 4 - Find a surgeon who specializes in such operations and book an appointment.

Once you have done the above steps, you will have an approximate idea about whether it's gyno or not (especially after the endocrinologist).

I would suggest meeting with a few. The best way is usually by referral but a lot of people don't discuss these procedures so find a few, speak to them.

If they know what they are doing, they will show you previous outpatients (before and after pictures), they will be able to explain what insurance covers and what it doesn't and give you proper advice.

Unfortunately, my insurance didn't cover it (Europe) as they considered it 'cosmetic' surgery. This was 10 years ago, last month. I am not sure by how much it changed now. I was lucky that my mother is prominent in the medical circles where I came from so it wasn't a big financial hurdle and that she knew the doctors inside out.

Sometimes, they will also give you a discount if you agree to be featured in their 'books' which show before and after.


Step 5 - The operation

It's a pretty simple one, I stayed one night in hospital. Full anesthesia.

8 incisions under your chest, where your pectoral muscle connects. This is for the liposuction. The incisions were 8-10mm. I still have scars.

A half circle incision on your nipple. This is where they remove the actual tissue and it varies on the individual.

The operation is pretty quick and you will figure out pretty fast that being an anesthesiologist is a pretty rewarding profession (ha).

The recovery will take around 6-8 weeks, depending.

The first 5 days will be hell, it's really painful. You can't move your arms properly, you have to be conscious of your movement, laughter etc. You will need your mom or dad to help you bath and you will need to wear a bin bag or something similar around your torso to ensure you don't wet it, especially as you will have stitches.

If you can get the dissolvable stitches around your nipple, then great.

You will need to wear a compression vest for your full recovery period. Don't skip this. Do it. You will want it because your chest will be as flat as an ironing board and you will feel liberated.

The recovery is just as important as the surgery, you will need to rub into your scars, especially on the nipples to ensure that they don't become puffy as they will 'set' afterwards. Don't skip this. I did towards the end and my nipples are slightly puffy but nothing major.


Whatever you do, don't rush into it. Ensure you trust your medical professionals. You are lucky that we are in 2018 where there's information everywhere and you can make a reasonably educated assumption about this.


The confidence you will get is life changing. You don't need to tell people if you don't want to. I only told my close friends who I trusted. Another guy in my class gave me a nipple twister 2 weeks later and it was the most excruciating pain I have ever had and I have broken bones, torn ligaments, been in fights, car accidents etc. so try to at least not have that happen to you.

If I could do it again, I would, 1000 times. I was 17 when I had the procedure. The doctor was friends with my mother, as was the anesthesiologist and endocrinologist so they did me a solid; normally you have to be 18.

It was life changing.

Finally, if you ever need anyone to talk to about this, if you're ever not sure about what to do, need advice or just someone to hear you complain about it, feel free to PM me. I am here for anything you need. I know what it's like, I know it's tough, regardless of how externally tough it is.

On the plus side, this will make you resilient.

Best of luck and remember, it only gets better from here.

Post: #10

(10-29-2018 03:40 AM)Trumpian Wrote:  Serious question. What is causing this mass proliferation of gyno amongst young guys? Seems to be an epidemic.

If you've been abusing roids I get it, but with endogenous hormones I can't grasp how men's estrogen levels would get that out of whack.

Observe the evil magic of the fast food industry. Literally, I used to work at little caesars for instance. You know the butter and stuff that goes on the cheesebread, the crazybread, anything with butter? Yeah that's actually legally known as "Butter Spread Sauce" it's essentially just soy. And so are so many other fast food places, let that just be one example. It's really fucking bad, the foods they push our way and organic foods are so high priced -- at least for people in our bracket, I grew up on hotpockets and shit as a kid, kids whose parents didn't know any better also probably have the same or similar problems.

On top of this I'm pretty sure hormone milks risks weren't known about when we were growing up in the early two thousands (gen z). pretty much just the timing of our development and the amount of soi-boi prodcuts in all our food nowadays is just utterly ridiculous.

Post: #11

heavily processed diet is probably the main culprit and massive xenoestrogen exposure. It's a damn shame how so many young guys are getting annihilated before they even know what's going on.

Post: #12

(10-29-2018 11:18 AM)Noir Wrote:  Hey buddy, it's pretty tough to live with and can be embarrassing because you will feel insecure and probably ashamed about it.

Easy for us to say you shouldn't but that's unfortunately how it is.

It happens to 1/3 boys under 18 and for some it doesn't go away. I was one of these kids and it made my life pretty difficult, I was very self conscious of it.

Pinch around your nipples (like an OK diver's sign) and see if you feel a hard lump.

If so, that's the breast tissue (gyno).

I developed this as my mother insisted on me being vegetarian when I was < 10 years old and I had soy (lol) in my diet. Gluten, sugar and unhealthy lifestyles perpetuate it too.


Step 1 - Speak to your parents and make sure they understand/you're on the same page.

Do some research, go through it with them and speak to them. I am sure they will have noticed as well. I know another kid who has it now (girlfriend's family) who hasn't mentioned it to his parents but they already know.

You just need to let them know how it affects you and that it's serious.

edit: called my girl now and she mentioned that he was put on some estrogen-suppressing steroids this week. That might be an option too, as per your visit to the endocrinologist. I don't know about US health laws though. He is 14, for what it's worth. Too young if you ask me but he also has other problems.


Step 2 - Visit an endocrinologist

This is the doctor who will do tests to check your hormones. Gyno is breast tissue that is hardened, just under your nipple. Sometimes it's temporary, other times it's permanent.

He/she will be able to confirm your estrogen levels and advise on what the best course of action is.


Step 3 - Hit the gym and lose as much body fat as you can + clean up your diet

Some guys have puffy nipples, genetically. They come out when your body fat % is above a certain threshold. Try and shed as much as you can and use the process of elimination to figure out if it's permanent or not, with the advice of doctors.

Also, decline bench press can help flatten it out but of course, to a degree.

Eat as clean as possible. You're fortunate as you have a reason and motivation to and this will carry you far in life.


Step 4 - Find a surgeon who specializes in such operations and book an appointment.

Once you have done the above steps, you will have an approximate idea about whether it's gyno or not (especially after the endocrinologist).

I would suggest meeting with a few. The best way is usually by referral but a lot of people don't discuss these procedures so find a few, speak to them.

If they know what they are doing, they will show you previous outpatients (before and after pictures), they will be able to explain what insurance covers and what it doesn't and give you proper advice.

Unfortunately, my insurance didn't cover it (Europe) as they considered it 'cosmetic' surgery. This was 10 years ago, last month. I am not sure by how much it changed now. I was lucky that my mother is prominent in the medical circles where I came from so it wasn't a big financial hurdle and that she knew the doctors inside out.

Sometimes, they will also give you a discount if you agree to be featured in their 'books' which show before and after.


Step 5 - The operation

It's a pretty simple one, I stayed one night in hospital. Full anesthesia.

8 incisions under your chest, where your pectoral muscle connects. This is for the liposuction. The incisions were 8-10mm. I still have scars.

A half circle incision on your nipple. This is where they remove the actual tissue and it varies on the individual.

The operation is pretty quick and you will figure out pretty fast that being an anesthesiologist is a pretty rewarding profession (ha).

The recovery will take around 6-8 weeks, depending.

The first 5 days will be hell, it's really painful. You can't move your arms properly, you have to be conscious of your movement, laughter etc. You will need your mom or dad to help you bath and you will need to wear a bin bag or something similar around your torso to ensure you don't wet it, especially as you will have stitches.

If you can get the dissolvable stitches around your nipple, then great.

You will need to wear a compression vest for your full recovery period. Don't skip this. Do it. You will want it because your chest will be as flat as an ironing board and you will feel liberated.

The recovery is just as important as the surgery, you will need to rub into your scars, especially on the nipples to ensure that they don't become puffy as they will 'set' afterwards. Don't skip this. I did towards the end and my nipples are slightly puffy but nothing major.


Whatever you do, don't rush into it. Ensure you trust your medical professionals. You are lucky that we are in 2018 where there's information everywhere and you can make a reasonably educated assumption about this.


The confidence you will get is life changing. You don't need to tell people if you don't want to. I only told my close friends who I trusted. Another guy in my class gave me a nipple twister 2 weeks later and it was the most excruciating pain I have ever had and I have broken bones, torn ligaments, been in fights, car accidents etc. so try to at least not have that happen to you.

If I could do it again, I would, 1000 times. I was 17 when I had the procedure. The doctor was friends with my mother, as was the anesthesiologist and endocrinologist so they did me a solid; normally you have to be 18.

It was life changing.

Finally, if you ever need anyone to talk to about this, if you're ever not sure about what to do, need advice or just someone to hear you complain about it, feel free to PM me. I am here for anything you need. I know what it's like, I know it's tough, regardless of how externally tough it is.

On the plus side, this will make you resilient.

Best of luck and remember, it only gets better from here.

after the procedure muscle growth isn't affected right?

Post: #13

A friend of mine grew up with this. Its a cheap and quick procedure to have it fixed.

Post: #14

The procedure doesn't affect muscle growth, no. Just allocate 6 months for clean eating to ensure your body doesn't take too much of a knock.

Post: #15

I"d say everything that Noir said here is spot on. Losing body fat is probably the first step. What's the point of getting a fancy surgery now if none of your habits change and your E levels remain fucked up. You'll still feel bad about how you look even if your chest is "normal" again.

Post: #16

Mild gyno here. Will an endo be able to confirm whether it's permanent or temporary? I developed it when I was in a really depressed state in college which was 3 years ago. It seems to have decreased but there is definitely still minor gyno there.

Post: #17

Your fat is likely too high. Get to a lower BFP