Post: #1

So I'm a 28 year old guy who owns a very successful company and travel quite extensively.

Over the last decade, I've split my team between dating two psycho women for 2.5 and 6 years and also sleeping with 90-100 other women between this.

I've gotten to the point where I am sick of dating and also the pick up game as well. I just want to hook up and I guess my affluence has made me lazy in some ways and I've started using Sugar Daddy sites in the past few months to make it extremely easy.

The issue is, I absolutely despise these type of "Cosmetology girl retards" as I call them who cannot have a remotely interesting conversation to save their life.

So I have been exploring the idea of what if I hired someone (my thinking was a Lesbian, but I'm totally open minded) to save me 90% of the time.

When I was like 21, I literally had like seven 18-19 year old girls that one of them would bring over to me all the time like a Pizza delivery for small favors to her...

So -- has anyone found a good way to "outsource your game" if you have the financial resources like I do?

Thank you.

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(11-09-2018 06:47 PM)tact Wrote:  So I'm a 28 year old guy who owns a very successful company and travel quite extensively.

Over the last decade, I've split my team between dating two psycho women for 2.5 and 6 years and also sleeping with 90-100 other women between this.

I've gotten to the point where I am sick of dating and also the pick up game as well. I just want to hook up and I guess my affluence has made me lazy in some ways and I've started using Sugar Daddy sites in the past few months to make it extremely easy.

The issue is, I absolutely despise these type of "Cosmetology girl retards" as I call them who cannot have a remotely interesting conversation to save their life.

So I have been exploring the idea of what if I hired someone (my thinking was a Lesbian, but I'm totally open minded) to save me 90% of the time.

When I was like 21, I literally had like seven 18-19 year old girls that one of them would bring over to me all the time like a Pizza delivery for small favors to her...

So -- has anyone found a good way to "outsource your game" if you have the financial resources like I do?

Thank you.

So instead of finding your own whores, you want to hire a lesbian as your own personal pimp? Are you sure that you are on the right forum?

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Post: #5

It's a simple question. If you are someone with limited time but a plethora of financial resources it's a very reasonable idea.
If you don't like it, just move along!

Post: #6

(11-09-2018 07:32 PM)tact Wrote:  It's a simple question. If you are someone with limited time but a plethora of financial resources it's a very reasonable idea.
If you don't like it, just move along!

Wrong forum, we don't P4P here, enjoy your short stay!

Post: #7

OP is all over the map and probably a troll, but I'll take the opportunity to philosophise a bit.

There are two main problems with P4P. First is that it costs money and not all guys have that kind of money. There's needs to be a place for guys without money to discuss their tactics for getting sex and this is that place. If the P4P guys are allowed in, guys who can't afford P4P will be mocked as "broke losers"' and told to go earn enough money so they can afford P4P, etc and the character of the forum will change. Same reason big baller types don't really belong here. You want to talk P4P, go to a P4P forum.

Second, every guy really should experience unpaid sex at some point, where the woman wants him strictly as a male sex object.. And they should do that when they are still young because men do lose sexual market value with age, same as women. Now if a guy who has tried civilian sex while young then switches to the P4P dark side later in life, that's okay I think. But "once a monger, always a monger". In other words, you can't easily switch back, so I think the forum does right in discouraging P4P for younger guys. As for us older guys, if we want to discuss P4P, there are other forums for that, as already noted.

As for the OP, there comes a point when outsourcing costs outweigh benefits. Why not outsource the decision of whether to outsource? Hire a manager to hire lower level managers to hire still lower level managers and then somewhere way down the line someone finally does some work. The more links in the chain, the more likely to have a weak link. And you still have to personally hire that top level manager, right?

If all the OP wants is hookups, quit fooling around with semi-pros and go top-tier pros..Visit the P4P forums for guidance.

If the OP really wants a normal relationship with a quality woman, there are matchmaking consultants who can help optimize your instagram, write a good profile, figure out what you really want, etc. Buy advertising space all over the place and have the matchmaking consultant screen for gold diggers. Wealthy men who genuinely want an LTR possibly leading to marriage are in high demand, assuming they are average or better in looks and personality. When such guys complain of problems, it's usually because they don't really know what the fuck they want, which is the exactly how I perceive the OP.

Post: #8

Do you have any specific recommendation for the dating website management providers?

Thx.

(11-09-2018 09:00 PM)Shemp Wrote:  OP is all over the map and probably a troll, but I'll take the opportunity to philosophise a bit.

There are two main problems with P4P. First is that it costs money and not all guys have that kind of money. There's needs to be a place for guys without money to discuss their tactics for getting sex and this is that place. If the P4P guys are allowed in, guys who can't afford P4P will be mocked as "broke losers"' and told to go earn enough money so they can afford P4P, etc and the character of the forum will change. Same reason big baller types don't really belong here. You want to talk P4P, go to a P4P forum.

Second, every guy really should experience unpaid sex at some point, where the woman wants him strictly as a male sex object.. And they should do that when they are still young because men do lose sexual market value with age, same as women. Now if a guy who has tried civilian sex while young then switches to the P4P dark side later in life, that's okay I think. But "once a monger, always a monger". In other words, you can't easily switch back, so I think the forum does right in discouraging P4P for younger guys. As for us older guys, if we want to discuss P4P, there are other forums for that, as already noted.

As for the OP, there comes a point when outsourcing costs outweigh benefits. Why not outsource the decision of whether to outsource? Hire a manager to hire lower level managers to hire still lower level managers and then somewhere way down the line someone finally does some work. The more links in the chain, the more likely to have a weak link. And you still have to personally hire that top level manager, right?

If all the OP wants is hookups, quit fooling around with semi-pros and go top-tier pros..Visit the P4P forums for guidance.

If the OP really wants a normal relationship with a quality woman, there are matchmaking consultants who can help optimize your instagram, write a good profile, figure out what you really want, etc. Buy advertising space all over the place and have the matchmaking consultant screen for gold diggers. Wealthy men who genuinely want an LTR possibly leading to marriage are in high demand, assuming they are average or better in looks and personality. When such guys complain of problems, it's usually because they don't really know what the fuck they want, which is the exactly how I perceive the OP.

Post: #9

This only works if you make 40k a month

Post: #10

I will be your sugar baby.

Post: #11

>>Do you have any specific recommendation for the dating website management providers?

No. Like I said before, there comes a point when outsourcing is more trouble than it is worth. If you just want a beautiful woman to show up reliably, give you good sex, provide intelligent conversation, that's what top-tier P4P is for and apparently you can afford that and surely you are aware of the P4P option. Which suggests to me that you do not just want sex, which is what P4P reliably offers, but rather a relationship but with higher quality women than you are meeting now. Which is normal for younger men, despite their frequent insistence that all they care about is sex, which is why, as I already noted, it is good that this forum discourages P4P in younger men. And if you want a relationship, then you must ultimately decide what girl clicks with you. You can't outsource that decision.

One thing you might do is advertise in this forum that you are willing to pay for advice about your profiles on dating sites. Or crowd-source multiple opinions. We all have blind spots that other people can help us with. Online dating sucks for average guys, but it works well for top 10% guys. If you are rich, you are by definition top 10% in money and that money can then be used to make you at least appear top 10% in other ways. Remember that appearance is all that matters in online dating, at least initially. I don't do online dating myself but there guys here in this forum who've have studied the subject in depth. Offer to hire them.

Post: #12

(11-09-2018 06:47 PM)tact Wrote:  Over the last decade, I've split my team between dating two psycho women for 2.5 and 6 years and also sleeping with 90-100 other women between this.

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Let's not jump to judgement. I think OP should just stick to his plan and ignore the haters.

Post: #15

Giving a girl a check/money and then engaging in intercourse sounds so transaction (bc it is) and not "sexy" to me. It's like Rollo says, you can't negotiate genuine desire, and when I fuck girls I want them to be into it and fucking me because they want to, not because I bought them a designer purse or some shit.

I'm not hating on P4P, for some it might make the most sense and I'm not saying I wouldn't engage in it at a later time/when I'm older, but at the same time you could take that P4P money and invest in yourself to make yourself more desirable/make your lifestyle better

Post: #16

(11-09-2018 06:47 PM)tact Wrote:  So I have been exploring the idea of what if I hired someone (my thinking was a Lesbian, but I'm totally open minded) to save me 90% of the time.

When I was like 21, I literally had like seven 18-19 year old girls that one of them would bring over to me all the time like a Pizza delivery for small favors to her...

So -- has anyone found a good way to "outsource your game" if you have the financial resources like I do?

Thank you.

You don't need to pay your Sugar Baby recruiter, just make her your wing man. Find a nice looking babe on there who is down with you inviting her out but nothing more. The Arrangement is you take her to nice places she wouldn't go to otherwise because she doesn't have money and she helps you meet girls. Even if she doesn't want to help you meet girls, if she knows the deal, you can hit on other girls and she is giving you social value because she has high value. If she looks like she is into you, this works. So you have to get one that is more or less at the level of girls you normally go out with so it doesn't look weird or like you're paying. Some of them will be a waste of time and some will be really good at it. Just keep trying til one works.

If you want a lesbian maybe you are thinking she should be bringing you girls for trios. This isn't going to help you out anymore than the other stuff you say is wasting time. She will recruit for herself, not you.

Regarding dating website management. If you read the book, "The 4-Hour Work Week", the author talks about how he hires personal assistants online (from sites like freelancer.com or upwork.com), pays them a few dollars/hour and gets them to write girls telling them that she is his PA helping out to arrange dates because he is to busy. He says it works really well.

Post: #17

You have seen a lesbian in real life, right?

They’re usually (but not always) butch. This scares hot young attention whores. Yes all women are whores. Whether it’s for your time, money, or both. You’re smart for wanting to save time and energy on bangs. Life is short.

The other problem is a lesbian would be as sneaky as an Indian/Filipino outsourcer by attempting to steal girls from you with bad game. This sinking the both of you. There’s almost a built in desire for her to see you fail.

Ideally you need someone charismatic but genuinely not interested in women. Since you say you’re open minded your best option for this is a gay “cousin”.

The idea of him being a family member works well to build social circle comfort with the girl. You can be honest and say you don’t really approve of his lifestyle but he’s family and blah blah.

Then he talks you up to her while you look alpha. You also have a nice segway to why you’d prefer to hang out without him next time you all meet.

Get yourself a fag cousin.

The other obvious alternative depends on how much patience you have for MFF threesomes. Most of the SA girls are bi. They will gladly help you pull other bi/curious girls for threesomes. They may well be dumb idiots but I guarantee they know how to seduce.

Post: #18

It’s a fucking troll. “Seeing” two “psycho” women for multiple years, yet bagged 100 women in between, none of which were impressed enough to at least be fuck buddies or something. GTFO. If it is actually true, it’s beyond pathetic.

Post: #19

Welcome back, TheScientist .

Post: #20

The direction of the post, combined a brand new gold membership, indicate a troll willing to pay someone to let him troll. The fact OP brings up P4P isn't surprising at all.

If in fact this isn't a troll post, OK - start with a change of mindset and knock off the BS bragging while you're at it. You can't throw money (you probably don't even have) at all your problems. Doing is way better than bragging.


18-19 year olds delivered like pizzas....

Post: #21

(11-11-2018 06:36 AM)Ten Feet Tall Right Now Wrote:  You have seen a lesbian in real life, right?

They’re usually (but not always) butch. This scares hot young attention whores. Yes all women are whores. Whether it’s for your time, money, or both. You’re smart for wanting to save time and energy on bangs. Life is short.

The other problem is a lesbian would be as sneaky as an Indian/Filipino outsourcer by attempting to steal girls from you with bad game. This sinking the both of you. There’s almost a built in desire for her to see you fail.

Ideally you need someone charismatic but genuinely not interested in women. Since you say you’re open minded your best option for this is a gay “cousin”.

The idea of him being a family member works well to build social circle comfort with the girl. You can be honest and say you don’t really approve of his lifestyle but he’s family and blah blah.

Then he talks you up to her while you look alpha. You also have a nice segway to why you’d prefer to hang out without him next time you all meet.

Get yourself a fag cousin.

The other obvious alternative depends on how much patience you have for MFF threesomes. Most of the SA girls are bi. They will gladly help you pull other bi/curious girls for threesomes. They may well be dumb idiots but I guarantee they know how to seduce.

Now this is a reply.
Very insightful and great points. Thank you sir.
I have thought about this as well and it honestly sounds WAY better.

Post: #22

Real lesbians HATE straight guys, it's competition. And most REAL lesbians are man-hating femenists. Infact, a femenist who is not lesbian is not a real femenist, just an attention whore or confused girl who has been corrupted by legit lesbos.

If you have social access, I suggest getting yourself friend-zoned instead... then use your female-friend as a bitch shield disabler so you can work your magic, isolate and escalate. Your female-friend doesn't need to know what's going on but it would definitely help.

Whenever I'm with my buddies' girlfriends out in public, bitch shields don't exist. Whenever I'm with my own girls out in public it's the same thing, I can openly talk with hot-two pairs and they always BOTH do this eye contact thing with my woman before responding to me. It's like an unwritten code they have saying it's ok, just like how us men have THE NOD.