Post: #1

Over the past few years I have lived abroad and am now planning to move back stateside over the course of the next year. Since things have shifted quite a bit politically since I departed the place where I used to live is now an absolutely no-no (take a wild guess).

My top criteria when choosing a place are:

• At minimum 70% White
• Low Crime
• Liberal Gun Laws
• Clean Accessible Water
• Clean Air
• Reliable Internet Access
• Affordable Housing
  

All of these are my personal preferences and if you don't share them you can bite my shiny metal ass.

Now the first criteria is actually the most difficult one and it limits the list of locations to this:

Quote:City Rank % White
Billings, MT 1 86.1%
Springfield, MO 2 85.6%
Fargo, ND 3 85.5%
Cedar Rapids, IA 4 84.4%
Sterling Heights, MI 5 83.0%
Boise City, ID 6 82.7%
Sioux Falls, SD 7 82.5%
Spokane, WA 8 82.0%
Lincoln, NE 9 81.2%
Scottsdale, AZ 10 81.1%
Arvada, CO 11 80.9%
Fort Collins, CO 12 80.8%
Evansville, IN 13 79.9%
Manchester, NH 14 79.6%
Eugene, OR 15 79.4%
Overland Park, KS 16 79.3%
Independence, MO 17 78.9%
Rochester, MN 18 77.0%
Olathe, KS 19 76.7%
Columbia, MO 20 76.1%
Provo, UT 21 75.9%
Madison, WI 22 74.8%
Norman, OK 23 74.0%
Cape Coral, FL 24 73.4%
Vancouver, WA 25 73.0%
Wilmington, NC 26 72.3%
Lexington, KY 27 72.1%
Knoxville, TN 28 72.1%
Springfield, IL 29 72.0%
Green Bay, WI 30 71.7%
Portland, OR 31 71.6%
Gilbert, AZ 32 70.9%
Charleston, SC 33 70.9%
Surprise, AZ 34 70.4%
Erie, PA 35 70.3%
Warren, MI 36 70.3%
Metairie, LA 37 70.2%
Lakewood, CO 38 70.2%

Provo was actually high on my list but the problem there is intermittent horrible air quality during winter due to inversion (similar to Santiago de Chile).

Obviously in terms of weather most of those places suck except maybe AZ. You may have noticed that this list does not feature a single place from CA, as the whitest city there is Roseville with a percentage of Whites of 69.6% - just below my threshold.

Portland, OR is on the list but I'm obviously not seriously considering this one and Eugene would be a much better choice.

And In case you wonder, I am not racist and the first criteria listed is merely a self defense measure. Given what's going on in the U.S. right now with recurring attacks on Whites and conservatives I have very little appetite for exposing myself or my loved ones to that sort of risk. And the best strategy for avoiding to become a victim is to position yourself out of harm's way.

This is a big community, so any serious and helpful insights on the various locations listed would be appreciated.

Post: #2

Maybe a dumb question to ask but would a half white asian guy fit into these places too or would the majority white people be racist?

Post: #3

Some (edit) of those cities, such as Billings, are meth and low class white cities.

One of the Dakotas might be a good choice. Polar weather up in Fargo though.

MN cities will have plenty of Somalis in the future. Stay clear. Already spreading out of the Twin Cities north.

Maybe Iowa or Nebraska? Though any decent city will be a college town of lefties.

Have to go smaller. Im now in a small town that is very conservative, religious, white and safe. But its boring even though it has a lot if decent amenities such as restaurants, a good hospital, schools. Its a hub for this areas even smaller farming towns. An hour and half away from a real city.

Post: #4

What population size are you limiting the search to?

Post: #5

(11-14-2018 03:47 PM)Quays2 Wrote:  Maybe a dumb question to ask but would a half white asian guy fit into these places too or would the majority white people be racist?

Whites aren't really racist anywhere, that's why they're getting exterminated. If you look at interracial violence statistics, there's 8-10x fewer instances of whites attacking "minorities" than vice-versa. Even the ones who disagree with non-white immigration are pretty civil about it, they might say things in online forums but it's not like they'd be mean to you. Honestly whites are in total submission to the cult of multiculturalism. The vast majority of whites under 30 are actively demanding more non-white immigration so, your fears are completely unfounded. Most white Christians are overly nice to be honest. It's not like mexico where you'd get kidnapped, robbed, and carved into pieces. Even if they didn't like you it's not like you're going to end up dead in a ditch like many 3rd world countries.

Probably the trailer park, white trash meth areas would be dangerous but other than that you're good.

Post: #6

Check out Kalispell MT and there about, whitedfish, flatthead lake, big mountain skiing, glacier national Park.

Post: #7

I'd check out many mid-size towns in UT and ID. They seem to fit what you're looking for.

Post: #8

Those statistics can be misleading.

Eugene is a university town, with many highly educated people.

Practically speaking, it is like The Living Dead, with extremely high drug and crime problems, and liberal residents and politicians who pretend none of it exists.

The homeless populations is high, and extremely aggressive, and growing all the time, and the jails are so overcrowded that unless we are talking about serious crime, there is no enforcement.

All white people though, which is cold comfort.

If you are thinking strategically though, you might as well go all the way and include a major SHTF event in your calculations.

I did this a few years ago and came across the concept of the American Redoubt.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Redoubt

Quote:The American Redoubt[1] is a political migration movement first proposed in 2011 by best-selling survivalist novelist and blogger James Wesley Rawles[2][3] which designates three states in the northwestern United States (Idaho, Montana, Wyoming), and adjoining portions of two other states (eastern Oregon, and eastern Washington) as a safe haven for conservative, libertarian-leaning Christians and Jews

There is plenty of information on the internet about it, just track down that guy Rawles.

Then it will just be down to finding a town you like.

You are going to have to bite the bullet when it comes to snow in the winters. There doesn't seem to be any way of avoiding that. Also, you might have to convert to Christianity.

Rawles, by the way, is much more concerned about traditional values and Christian faith than he is about race.

If I were looking for a safe place to raise my kids, I would probably choose somewhere in Idaho.

Post: #9

Arvada and Lakewood are actually Denver suburbs, not separate cities. Arvada is nice, but Lakewood is not as nice (not horrible though).

Both are very expensive. You'll have to work to find a place to live for less than $1000/month. Also, the air can be smoggy sometimes.

The pros are that both cities are minutes from downtown Denver, and minutes from the mountains. There are only a few other places on your list that are near big cities, and each of these has drawbacks too. Denver is a pretty decent place to live.

Post: #10

Billings MT is a cool place. If youre down with the mid-west vibe it can be a really nice place to live. Also the people are incredibly nice if you put a little effort into fitting in the culture, and at worst a bit weary of you if you don't.

Cosign on Idaho being a safe bet. I've lived and traveled in the state a bit. Can recommend some mid-sized towns but have never been to Boise

Post: #11

I'm surprised no one has suggested pooling our money and buying up Detroit, then turning it into a white utopia.

Post: #12

Your life stage and how you make money are important factors. Going soley off demographics plants you in many places people can't escape, or have turned into wealthy Kingdoms. Why? Because cities with active economies will always have some diversity as people are drawn to where the action and jobs are. You will also find that many mono type places steer young or old. Retirement cities are all white but are full of gezzers on fixed incomes.

Midwest or Plains only area that going to give you a anything close. Also, if OP is in fact biracial you'll always stick out. Never understood how mixed folks think the eyes don't go towards them as well....

Post: #13

(11-14-2018 03:57 PM)ball dont lie Wrote:  Some (edit) of those cities, such as Billings, are meth and low class white cities.

One of the Dakotas might be a good choice. Polar weather up in Fargo though.

MN cities will have plenty of Somalis in the future. Stay clear. Already spreading out of the Twin Cities north.

Maybe Iowa or Nebraska? Though any decent city will be a college town of lefties.

Have to go smaller. Im now in a small town that is very conservative, religious, white and safe. But its boring even though it has a lot if decent amenities such as restaurants, a good hospital, schools. Its a hub for this areas even smaller farming towns. An hour and half away from a real city.

Great input and I agree about the meth epidemic, that's made things even worse.

Per the place you picked: Sounds perfect to me. I'm a bit older, so my party days are long behind me. Boring with basic amenities sounds perfect to me. You mind messaging me privately?

Post: #14

(11-14-2018 03:47 PM)Quays2 Wrote:  Maybe a dumb question to ask but would a half white asian guy fit into these places too or would the majority white people be racist?

I think you will find most people to be extremely welcoming.

Post: #15

(11-14-2018 04:32 PM)Thomas Jackson Wrote:  What population size are you limiting the search to?

Not that important to me as long as it's over 25,000. After all it's nice to have a decent gym, supermarket, shooting range, drugstore, car mechanic, home depot, and movie theater nearby.

Post: #16

Rochester MN is probably alright but I would stay away from minnesota if your not considering the twin cities. Taxes aren’t great here and the weather is awful.

Post: #17

Like kosko said, many of the highest-paying jobs in America are located in diverse places (Silicon Valley, Austin, Chicago, NY, parts of Florida, Minneapolis, Atlanta, etc).

Post: #18

(11-14-2018 04:43 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  Those statistics can be misleading.

Eugene is a university town, with many highly educated people.

Practically speaking, it is like The Living Dead, with extremely high drug and crime problems, and liberal residents and politicians who pretend none of it exists.

The homeless populations is high, and extremely aggressive, and growing all the time, and the jails are so overcrowded that unless we are talking about serious crime, there is no enforcement.

All white people though, which is cold comfort.

If you are thinking strategically though, you might as well go all the way and include a major SHTF event in your calculations.

I did this a few years ago and came across the concept of the American Redoubt.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Redoubt

Quote:The American Redoubt[1] is a political migration movement first proposed in 2011 by best-selling survivalist novelist and blogger James Wesley Rawles[2][3] which designates three states in the northwestern United States (Idaho, Montana, Wyoming), and adjoining portions of two other states (eastern Oregon, and eastern Washington) as a safe haven for conservative, libertarian-leaning Christians and Jews

There is plenty of information on the internet about it, just track down that guy Rawles.

Then it will just be down to finding a town you like.

You are going to have to bite the bullet when it comes to snow in the winters. There doesn't seem to be any way of avoiding that. Also, you might have to convert to Christianity.

Rawles, by the way, is much more concerned about traditional values and Christian faith than he is about race.

If I were looking for a safe place to raise my kids, I would probably choose somewhere in Idaho.

Brilliant input and as I already mentioned, I'm not a racist so I would be willing to bend my 70% rule if I can be sufficiently convinced that race based conflict would have a low probability in that region. Was born Christian so no issues there either.

I never heard of Rawles and I'll be damned, because I almost came to identical conclusions on my own just analyzing what we're heading into over the coming decades. And yes, traditional values and community spirit are on the forefront of my thinking process.

Thanks a ton, this is very helpful.

Post: #19

(11-14-2018 05:11 PM)Jaxon Wrote:  Like kosko said, many of the highest-paying jobs in America are located in diverse places (Silicon Valley, Austin, Chicago, NY, parts of Florida, Minneapolis, Atlanta, etc).

Don't care about jobs, I am all set.

Post: #20

(11-14-2018 05:02 PM)kosko Wrote:  Also, if OP is in fact biracial you'll always stick out. Never understood how mixed folks think the eyes don't go towards them as well....

I'm white as the snow. If you look up white cracker in the dictionary you'll find my picture right next to it :-)

Post: #21

(11-14-2018 05:12 PM)redpillage Wrote:  

(11-14-2018 05:11 PM)Jaxon Wrote:  Like kosko said, many of the highest-paying jobs in America are located in diverse places (Silicon Valley, Austin, Chicago, NY, parts of Florida, Minneapolis, Atlanta, etc).

Don't care about jobs, I am all set.

Even if one is looking for a job, the cost of living must be factored against higher wages. Slicon Valley has tons of jobs that pay $100k per year, but at $100k per year, many people are struggling due to insane housing prices.

Post: #22

(11-14-2018 05:15 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  

(11-14-2018 05:12 PM)redpillage Wrote:  

(11-14-2018 05:11 PM)Jaxon Wrote:  Like kosko said, many of the highest-paying jobs in America are located in diverse places (Silicon Valley, Austin, Chicago, NY, parts of Florida, Minneapolis, Atlanta, etc).

Don't care about jobs, I am all set.

Even if one is looking for a job, the cost of living must be factored against higher wages. Slicon Valley has tons of jobs that pay $100k per year, but at $100k per year, many people are struggling due to insane housing prices.

Affordable housing was on my list of criteria. I have budgeted $3k or less for a little townhouse or house in the boonies, but ~$2k would be preferable. I haven't lived in the U.S. for over 5 years so that may be unrealistic.

Post: #23

Oh look, it's another thread where I tell someone to look into Scottsdale.

Post: #24

(11-14-2018 05:20 PM)Jetset Wrote:  Oh look, it's another thread where I tell someone to look into Scottsdale.

LOL - I've been at the Camelback and it's a lovely place. Used to bang some hot blonde there back in the days when most of you guys were still sperm ;-)

Big strike against AZ is the heat in the summer. How's the situation when it comes to water and air in Scottsdale? I haven't been there in decades, so any pointers would be welcome.

Post: #25

Yes thats ok.

Its a smaller town. Great outdoors opportunities. The issue is in the winter its small. People come here for the summer/fall because its so beautiful.

Has a Home Depot, movie theatre. Walmart. Lots of locally owned and operated businesses. Very reasonable housing costs.