Post: #1

I ended up going out tonight with a girl I met a few weeks ago at a gas station after exchanging a few texts yesterday. I remembered she was cute from the day game approach, but tonight she looked amazing. We met up for drinks at a hotel bar, and talked over a few glasses of wine. After the first glass got in her, she became much more comfortable, and these red flags were shared:

1. She has an icy relationship with her mother.
2. She has no relationship with her real father. Her mom and dad divorced when she was 14, and her mom re-married at 16. She referred to her step-dad as his first name, not as father, step-father, anything of respect.
3. She was married early (22) and it ended in divorce at 25. She said he cheated on her with a co-worker (He was a doctor in a hospital who supposedly was smashing a nurse assistant)
4. She moved back in with her mom and step-dad after the divorce, which became official in March. So as of right now she is still living at home


From a LTR perspective, I was surprised a woman who from the outside reflected a solid 8 (she works out 4-5 times a week, fit and great curves) had so much baggage at such a young age.

How would you rank the above red flags from biggest issue to smallest?

Post: #2

(12-02-2018 04:04 AM)lunchmoney Wrote:  1. She has an icy relationship with her mother.
2. She has no relationship with her real father. Her mom and dad divorced when she was 14, and her mom re-married at 16. She referred to her step-dad as his first name, not as father, step-father, anything of respect.
3. She was married early (22) and it ended in divorce at 25. She said he cheated on her with a co-worker (He was a doctor in a hospital who supposedly was smashing a nurse assistant)
4. She moved back in with her mom and step-dad after the divorce, which became official in March. So as of right now she is still living at home


How would you rank the above red flags from biggest issue to smallest?

All girls over 22 are damaged badly at this point in American culture. She sounds like a good bang, but almost impossible to pair bond with, like 99% of girls.

Post: #3

Quote:2. She has no relationship with her real father. Her mom and dad divorced when she was 14, and her mom re-married at 16. She referred to her step-dad as his first name, not as father, step-father, anything of respect.

That is not her step-dad. It is just a random dude that came into her life at a late age. She has no reason to call this dude "dad".

Post: #4

Not gonna lie, bro.. I’ve definitely had my fair share of experiences with highly unstable women that were highly attractive. I almost got killed by one. It was awesome. Whatever you do, do not be the one that becomes her baby daddy. I repeat, do not be the one that becomes her baby daddy. There’s a high probability that she lied about some of not all of those things. At the very best she was not telling the whole story. And I’m seriously fucking doubting that a doctor married a girl in her early 20s and then turned around and was smashing a nurse. All of this sounds like the ramblings if a bipolar THOT.

Post: #5

(12-02-2018 06:52 AM)TRSrefugee Wrote:  Not gonna lie, bro.. I’ve definitely had my fair share of experiences with highly unstable women that were highly attractive. I almost got killed by one. It was awesome. Whatever you do, do not be the one that becomes her baby daddy. I repeat, do not be the one that becomes her baby daddy. There’s a high probability that she lied about some of not all of those things. At the very best she was not telling the whole story. And I’m seriously fucking doubting that a doctor married a girl in her early 20s and then turned around and was smashing a nurse. All of this sounds like the ramblings if a bipolar THOT.

Agreed. The fact she shared all of that the first night within the first hours told me she was unstable.

Post: #6

What will ranking the red flags accomplish?

Post: #7

Why are you even considering a girl that you just met and haven't even banged once for an LTR ?

You hear that hissing sound ? That's neediness ("I want a girlfriend") leaking into your game. If I can hear it from here girls sure as hell can in person.

You need to fix that leak

Post: #8

Bang her and then don’t talk to her again.

Post: #9

(12-02-2018 10:17 PM)eradicator Wrote:  Bang her and then don’t talk to her again.

That was the intent/plan. Shared the red flags to see which one in the groups view was the worst, but collectively they are all too much to consider for anything other than a pump and dump.

Post: #10

(12-02-2018 04:04 AM)lunchmoney Wrote:  I ended up going out tonight with a girl I met a few weeks ago at a gas station after exchanging a few texts yesterday. I remembered she was cute from the day game approach, but tonight she looked amazing. We met up for drinks at a hotel bar, and talked over a few glasses of wine. After the first glass got in her, she became much more comfortable, and these red flags were shared:

1. She has an icy relationship with her mother.
2. She has no relationship with her real father. Her mom and dad divorced when she was 14, and her mom re-married at 16. She referred to her step-dad as his first name, not as father, step-father, anything of respect.
3. She was married early (22) and it ended in divorce at 25. She said he cheated on her with a co-worker (He was a doctor in a hospital who supposedly was smashing a nurse assistant)
4. She moved back in with her mom and step-dad after the divorce, which became official in March. So as of right now she is still living at home


From a LTR perspective, I was surprised a woman who from the outside reflected a solid 8 (she works out 4-5 times a week, fit and great curves) had so much baggage at such a young age.

How would you rank the above red flags from biggest issue to smallest?

These are the worst if you're looking for that answer.

I would bang, but not LTR.

Tread carefully long term but nothing to worry about at the moment as long as you are just having fun and not trying to commit.

Post: #11

Ranking rad flags makes sense when they are on different girls - you can rank which girl has most serious red flags and which has them smaller.

On the same girl, red flags have a cumulative not substitutive effect so it's pointless.
I cannot tell you should you proceed with this girl because I know little else about her. What are her values? What are her dreams? What are her habits? Why did her father leave? Why does she prefer you among other men? What do you prefer in her among other women? Did you choose her because she is somewhat similar to your mother? Did she choose you because you are somewhat similar to her father?

There are dozens of questions you must learn about the girl before you consider LTR and hundreds before you consider children and marriage. This info you provide is not enough to let us make a good judgement.

My gut feeling tells me you are not ready yourself, not wise yourself to get in a serious relationship. Learn more about game and life.

Post: #12

Ha, I love it when nutty chicks overshare on the first date. It points to a guaranteed bang IMO. One time this chick told me her (supposed) notch count within like 30 minutes. ‘‘Twas a great lay.

Anyway, the OP’s post underscores something I was thinking about recently. I was having a conversation with my grandparents about how in this day and age marriage doesn’t make sense for a man and how I probably won’t participate. My grandma was telling me how she married my 23 y/o grandpa when she was 20 after just a year of dating. She said she didn’t really know him super well but wasn’t that worried about it. It made me realize how much baggage modern women have accrued even as they hit their late teens and early twenties. How times have changed indeed

Post: #13

(12-02-2018 04:04 AM)lunchmoney Wrote:  From a LTR perspective, I was surprised a woman who from the outside reflected a solid 8 (she works out 4-5 times a week, fit and great curves) had so much baggage at such a young age.

How would you rank the above red flags from biggest issue to smallest?

A woman that works out doesn't sound like LTR material, tbh. Women who work out get higher levels of testosterone which increases their sex drives and makes them more susceptible to being a slut. Going to the gym is not a feminine activity in any way, shape or form.

To rank the other ones I'd say being a divorcee is the biggest red flag. Personally I wouldn't even take on a non-virgin for an LTR. So I am obviously much more extreme than you are. But she has proven that she cannot make good decisions by marrying the wrong guy. I'd rate it almost as bad as being a single mother. All the other ones are clear red flags as well. This woman is clearly trash and a massive slut. Pump and dump.