Paris Yellow Vests

An important thing to note is France has a politically viable far-left movement. Melonchon narrowly missed out on the runoffs with 20% in the Presidential election with other hard-left parties sharing 5%.

Even Marine LePen was in favour of price-controls for certain goods.

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(12-06-2018 06:39 PM)Transsimian Wrote:  An important thing to note is France has a politically viable far-left movement. Melonchon narrowly missed out on the runoffs with 20% in the Presidential election with other hard-left parties sharing 5%.

Even Marine LePen was in favour of price-controls for certain goods.

This is exactly what needs to happen, and what the elites fear the most. If the left and right unite against them, then this could be very interesting. Left in France does not necessarily equal pro immigration/Globalism as far as I can gather? It`s not like the German left for example. It`s more about the French worker`s and farmers rights and privileges and so on.

Macron pushes both Globalism and the type of capitalism that the left (and woke right) detest. Not "real capitalism" you might say, but the exploitative fake State controlled one. It basically comes down to usury, instead of freedom to live and earn as you please. Maybe the left and right in France are closer to each other than elsewhere in Europe and they might topple the current rule.

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(12-06-2018 03:32 PM)redpillage Wrote:  This exactly has been the strategy of the globalists and Marxists, to demonize police forces at every turn, and thus defanging them up to the point where they are left without authority and the willingness to use force in order to keep the streets safe.

Ever heard of Eric Garner? The cops are the enemy.

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(12-06-2018 07:37 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  

(12-06-2018 03:32 PM)redpillage Wrote:  This exactly has been the strategy of the globalists and Marxists, to demonize police forces at every turn, and thus defanging them up to the point where they are left without authority and the willingness to use force in order to keep the streets safe.

Ever heard of Eric Garner? The cops are the enemy.

Cops are the arm of the government. What they do depends on who is in power.

They will only be your friends if a friendly government is in power.

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(12-06-2018 07:37 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  

(12-06-2018 03:32 PM)redpillage Wrote:  This exactly has been the strategy of the globalists and Marxists, to demonize police forces at every turn, and thus defanging them up to the point where they are left without authority and the willingness to use force in order to keep the streets safe.

Ever heard of Eric Garner? The cops are the enemy.

Yep. totally want to defang the police. That's why they're roaming around North American cities decked out in full body armor, riot gear, and assault rifles.

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Scenario:

Police can't deal with the situation.
Macron calls in military
Martial Law declared
Military moves into the banlieus instead and send the africans back

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Or...


Police can't deal with the situation.
Macron calls in military
Martial Law declared
Shutters come down...

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I’m with sterlingarcher on that. I have doubts on the reliability of the Army. Like the Lebanese Army in 1975, the French Army is multicultural and is likely to split along ethnic or religious lines. It cannot implement policies on its own. If there is Martial Law, the President will pull the strings.

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(12-06-2018 03:44 PM)balybary Wrote:  

(12-06-2018 03:31 PM)The Beast1 Wrote:  From what I am reading, it seems that France is about to descend into a civil war or Granny Fetish Macron will step down as President.

What's the sentiment on the ground Malone and other french RVFers? Are we about to see European civil unrest?

No one can predict the future but my prediction is:
The Yellow Vests will not otherthrow Macron.
The prime minister is going to get fired.
Macron will try to establish an authoritarian regime (his only solution because he is very unpopular with his globalist ideology and craziness)

Arrested high school students today:

A real war can start in France in few years but it's impossible to predict when, too many variables.

Best case scenario, a French Trump emerges and will win the next presidential election.

This looks like May 68 again

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The police are people, and like people they will not go against their own cultural current unless the circumstances are dire.

In a circumstance like this it would be utterly retarded to simply paint them all with the same brush because that will cause the fence sitters in the police force (or even those sympathetic with the protesters) to decide they might as well go all-in with the globalist authoritarians.

When videos like those arise ask of the police "who are those men among you who are trying to turn us against you all?"

Don't forget that some of the police took their helmets off in solidarity with the protesters (though they've probably all lost their jobs now).

Hearts and minds goes both ways. Even for soliders of the worst regime, you have to leave a back door for them to exit by and be willing to forgive offences against the people that are not particularly grave. If you reduce the struggle to "two forces enter, one force leaves" then you're going to end up with a civil war that will be far longer, more brutal and cost far more innocent lives than are necessary.

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'Don't forget that some of the police took their helmets off in solidarity with the protesters'

And just imagine how quickly everything changes if enough follow...

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(12-06-2018 01:24 PM)balybary Wrote:  15 armoured vehicles will be in Paris next Saturday, according to this link:

Seems fitting

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Confrontations are also happening in Moulouse (small town in Alsace) with students.

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And so it begins...?

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The military are already rolling if social media is anything to go by but the scale is unknown TBH. People can easily lie and pull old pictures and create dis-information.

The problem with different groups coming together in a civil fight for something is they always fuck it up for everyone. No civil war is clean and turns into chaos but it is still too far fetched for anything of the sort.

There will be a lot of damage done to property however.

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(12-06-2018 07:48 PM)Easy_C Wrote:  

(12-06-2018 07:37 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  

(12-06-2018 03:32 PM)redpillage Wrote:  This exactly has been the strategy of the globalists and Marxists, to demonize police forces at every turn, and thus defanging them up to the point where they are left without authority and the willingness to use force in order to keep the streets safe.

Ever heard of Eric Garner? The cops are the enemy.

Yep. totally want to defang the police. That's why they're roaming around North American cities decked out in full body armor, riot gear, and assault rifles.

Look, I get where you're coming from and concede it's not a black/white issue. But let me contrast what you're saying with the situation in Germany (or Sweden, or Portland OR a bit closer to home) where cops are being spat on, openly disrespected, and sometimes violently attacked by migrants, well knowing that police departments have received explicit orders to not incite migrants or antifa scum in order to not give them any excuse to start rioting.

Basically it all boils down to this: police, like the military, is a tool of control serving the state which can be employed in a myriad of ways. To demonize the state's tool for doing what it is told is to blame a hammer for hitting your thumb when improperly used. Who you should blame are the assholes embedded in the administrations who have control over both police and military and are the ones issuing the marching orders.

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A lot Ukrainian police who made $150 a month had no problem shooting protesters for that money. Still outright civil war in most of Ukraine was avoided probably because none was willing to fight WW2 style battles for low pay (except for some Nazi and Communist volunteers in a small area).

French soldiers on the other hand make an average $67,000 a year (a gravy train job for sure) and I doubt they're going to refuse any orders like "gun down the protesters".

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(12-07-2018 08:55 AM)redpillage Wrote:  Who you should blame are the assholes embedded in the administrations who have control over both police and military and are the ones issuing the marching orders.

It's ok to blame both. I hate to invoke Godwin's Law, but are the Einsatzgruppen innocent just because they were following orders?

Fuck that. I'm so tired of the "We're just doing our jobs" excuse.

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∆ right...

It's the ones who choose to take action. It's their choice.

At the top it's just paper and words.

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(12-07-2018 09:59 AM)BaatumMania Wrote:  A lot Ukrainian police who made $150 a month had no problem shooting protesters for that money. Still outright civil war in most of Ukraine was avoided probably because none was willing to fight WW2 style battles for low pay (except for some Nazi and Communist volunteers in a small area).

French soldiers on the other hand make an average $67,000 a year (a gravy train job for sure) and I doubt they're going to refuse any orders like "gun down the protesters".

Uuuuh - NOPE. Correlation does not equal causation.

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^^ The idea that soldiers kill for money is preposterous, or the imagination of a psychopath.

Btw, French police were furious yesterday when Macron offered them a €300 bonus for their trouble. They said we’re not whores.

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(12-06-2018 07:22 PM)Johnnyvee Wrote:  

(12-06-2018 06:39 PM)Transsimian Wrote:  An important thing to note is France has a politically viable far-left movement. Melonchon narrowly missed out on the runoffs with 20% in the Presidential election with other hard-left parties sharing 5%.

Even Marine LePen was in favour of price-controls for certain goods.

This is exactly what needs to happen, and what the elites fear the most. If the left and right unite against them, then this could be very interesting. Left in France does not necessarily equal pro immigration/Globalism as far as I can gather? It`s not like the German left for example. It`s more about the French worker`s and farmers rights and privileges and so on.

Macron pushes both Globalism and the type of capitalism that the left (and woke right) detest. Not "real capitalism" you might say, but the exploitative fake State controlled one. It basically comes down to usury, instead of freedom to live and earn as you please. Maybe the left and right in France are closer to each other than elsewhere in Europe and they might topple the current rule.

Bingo.

People like Soral have figured this out a long time ago, that's why he's public enemy #1 in France.

Italy has shown the way forward, we need a cooperation between left-wing anti-establishment populists like the Five Star Movement with right-wing nationalists like the Lega Nord.

The (((globalists))) use identity politics to make sure mindsets stay mired into a left-right hegelian dialectic, both on the left, and on the right. That's what people like Zemmour or Riposte Laïque are there for, controlled opposition on the right to spread chaos and keep people divided so that they can continue to fleece the country.

The French left is run by trotskists who are totally aligned with Macron and the globalist agenda, more or less covertly. The fact is, the middle class and the working class, who carry the country and its ideals on their shoulders, have common goals and a common enemy.

The working class is made up of a large minority of 2nd generation immigrants, most of whom have actually integrated fairly well in French society, and are actually against the recent wave of mass immigration. They also bear the burden of bankster austerity. As well most of them are socially conservative, they don't like the type of SJW gender/identity crap and anti-small business policies that Macron epitomizes.

Marine le Pen failed to seize on this, instead of adopting an anti-globalist, nationalist, Gaullist, traditionalist, socially conservative anti-mass migration policy that could have appealed to a bigger segment of the working class, she went for socially leftist (pro-gay etc) zio-nationalist platform. As a result she failed miserably in the last election, hitting a low ceiling.

Soral summarizes this and the broad political dynamics in a short video that just came out a few hours ago:





(You can use the subtitle option to have an english auto-translation)

Hervé Ryssen on this week's events, he covers the same angles, also shows the government uses SJW minority whores to divide and conquer:

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(12-07-2018 01:42 PM)Montrose Wrote:  ^^ The idea that soldiers kill for money is preposterous, or the imagination of a psychopath.

Btw, French police were furious yesterday when Macron offered them a €300 bonus for their trouble. They said we’re not whores.

The police in France is a mixed bag. Most of the leadership is cucked or complicit globalist freemasons. At the lower level, there is a strong element of nationalists who are very supportive of a movement like the Gilets Jaunes, especially in the countryside.

But in Paris and other big cities there are a lot of CRS (riot police) who are total scumbags/regime whores and who will eagerly stoop to breaking middle class/middle aged bones for a comfortable salary. We've seen a lot of this in the recent large-scale pro-family traditionalist Manif our Tous protest against gender politics, where these cops eagerly gassed and struck regular families engaged in peaceful marching. Note that the police are instructed to not strike the much more violent but smaller antifa or islamo-racaille thugish types, who are part and parcel of the Macron identity politics agenda.

That's the element I saw in the Burger King incident, a lot of cowardly, gratuitous violence against white defenseless Gilets Jaunes.

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Is there a longer video of the burger king beatdown?
Why were they in there?

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Recent Podcast (Dec 5) on the yellow vests from VoxDay

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