Post: #1

I miss the days of ROK, where we writers would wait for the appearance of the Roosh Signal in the sky (a muscled, masculine pug) and be assigned a story on a really sad topic like this one.

In the absence of ROK, let this forum and other outlets, like TRP on Reddit, provide a bulwark against this sort of insanity.

Guy is:
- Good-looking for his age (no homo)
- Massively successful in business and his career (top 0.1 or 0.01%)
- Hard-working and has excellent, albeit naive values

...still gets fucked in the ass, first via the courts and then (and before then, too) by the paternity fraud.

3/10 WNBOBCB (Would Not Bang Or Be Cuckolded By):

Quote:In an instant I wasn't a dad: Wife is forced to pay husband £250,000 for 'tricking' him into believing three sons were his for 21 years after doctor told him he had been infertile since birth

A devoted father has revealed he discovered the three sons he had raised for more than 20 years were not his when doctors told him he had been infertile since birth.

Now Richard Mason’s ex-wife has been ordered to pay him £250,000 following an extraordinary legal case that has allowed her to keep the identity of the real father a secret.

Devastated Mr Mason never doubted he was the boys’ biological dad until two years ago when he was diagnosed with cystic fibrosis – an inherited disease which prevents male sufferers from fathering children naturally.

DNA and other tests later confirmed beyond doubt that the businessman has no biological link to his eldest, now 23, and his 19-year-old twins, throwing his life – and his relationship with them – into turmoil.

Mr Mason believes that the same man fathered all three boys during an intermittent four-year affair his wife Kate, 54, embarked on in the late 1990s.

But she only confessed to the adultery in 2016, ten years on from their divorce, when he confronted her about the children’s paternity.

It is not known if Mrs Mason’s former lover is aware he has three sons from the on-off relationship.

The heart-wrenching case came to light when Mr Mason launched a legal bid to claw back some of the £4 million his wife received in their divorce settlement, as well as suing her for paternity fraud. As a result, two of the boys have since broken off contact with him.

Legal papers seen by The Mail on Sunday reveal that, when she became pregnant with the first child, Mrs Mason declared a sudden interest in Judaism and also insisted all three children were given Jewish middle names. She also refused to have them christened.

Mr Mason, from Rhos, North Wales, believes it is a clue to the identity of the real father, but he is tortured by not knowing who he is and has called on his ex-wife to admit the truth if only for the sake of her sons.

Last night, Mr Mason, 55, a wealthy co-founder of internet comparison site MoneySupermarket.com, told The Mail on Sunday that discovering the boys were not his own left his life in pieces.

‘You don’t know what’s real and what isn’t – it’s as if I’m living in The Matrix,’ he said. ‘Someone says to you, “All that you know and everything you thought to be solid and true is not real, and never did exist. You are not a father, you are not able to have kids, your name will not continue.”

‘I still see what the boys are doing on Facebook and it’s heart-wrenching because we saw the graduation of the eldest on there, but I wasn’t invited.

‘I walk past a toy store and it reminds you of buying Christmas presents for them and other family occasions.

‘And when friends post things on Facebook about their own families like their first grandchild or saying they’re proud of their boy for something, I just think, “My God, that’s all been taken away from me.” ’

His solicitor Roger Terrell, an expert in the field, launched a twin-pronged legal attack, not only to have the divorce settlement reviewed in the Family Court, but also to seek damages from Mrs Mason for paternity fraud in Birmingham County Court. ‘We understand that it’s a legal first because there has never been a divorce financial settlement set aside in such emotive circumstances,’ said Mr Terrell.

‘Normally it’s the husband who’s brought back to court because he’s failed to disclose some of his income, but in this case it was the wife, and it was the paternity of the children which was the issue. All this makes it very unusual.’

Mr Mason, now remarried, said his ex-wife ‘tricked’ him into believing the boys were his, when at the very least there must have been some doubt in her mind – not least because she only became pregnant seven years into their marriage.

‘After the divorce, she constantly hounded me for more maintenance even though I always complied with the Child Support Agency demands,’ he said.

‘Meanwhile, the biological father has never paid a penny as far as I know.’

...

Still in a daze, Richard walked out of the hospital to the car park and, with shaking hands, composed a text to Kate, telling her what he’d just learned and that he would now have to undergo sperm analysis and an ultrasound scan on his scrotum.

He wrote: ‘I was hoping that you could relieve me of this further indignity by letting me know now if I am the father.

‘I am happy to go along with your advice as to how best to tell the boys. But, if you force me to go through these extra tests then I shall be telling them as I wish.

‘I have no intention of suing you and would like to remain in the boys’ lives.’

Her reply came within minutes, but was somewhat less than categorical: ‘Of course the boys are yours, no matter what the science might suggest.’

...

The divorce was finalised in early 2008 and, in the financial settlement a year later, Kate’s £4 million lump sum included the boys’ private school fees in advance.

Richard complied with Child Support Agency (later the Child Maintenance Service) assessments for maintenance, which amounted to nearly £3,000 a month in the early years following their divorce.

But according to him, that was never enough for Kate.

‘She hounded me for years, employing consultants to investigate my financial affairs and tried to make me pay more,’ he said, his surprisingly youthful features contorted with suppressed rage. ‘Meanwhile, as far as I know, the biological father of the boys has never paid a penny for their upkeep.’

Kate now lives very comfortably in a £1 million seven-bedroom house in Uttoxeter, Staffordshire, with a new partner and, when Richard last visited to pick up the boys, there were four cars in the long driveway, including a Range Rover Vogue and a C Class Mercedes Cabriolet.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...-boys.html



Edit: Before the "game saves lives, game saves everything" guys start rolling in, I've already acknowledged he's naive, but I'd also add that when the anti-male UK divorce-child support/custody industrial complex meets a generally man-hating Western society, which rewards women for this kind of behavior or, at a minimum, fails to hold them to proper account for it, almost any man is in for a wild ride at times.

Post: #2

This is why guys should always ALWAYS demand a paternity test before signing a birth certificate. NO MATTER WHAT. Not sometimes, but always, It does not matter if she is your fucking wife or not. Because if you sign that birth certificate you are claiming responsibility for that child.

Post: #3

That's.Fucking.Brutal.

Post: #4

Her new partner must know this story after it's gone viral.

I cannot understand men who give such evil bitches the second chance. Where do these suckers come form?

Post: #5

Jesus, what a lying skank. I hope he uses the full weight of the legal system to recuperate the costs he paid to this bitch, especially the child support for which he never should have been responsible. With interest.

Post: #6

Yet another piece of evidence of deep and innate hatred towards men within the US family courts.

And they call us misogynists?

Hypocritical fucks.

Post: #7

(01-07-2019 06:00 AM)Mage Wrote:  Her new partner must know this story after it's gone viral.

I cannot understand men who give such evil bitches the second chance. Where do these suckers come form?

There is no brotherhood in life. It's every man for himself.

Post: #8

The hardest thing for me to believe is how can the children even DARE refuse to speak to him now? Just like for him... that would be the shit that would make it really really hard to get out of bed for me! And with Private School & Uni paid for... his "children" will most likely go on to be successful... while he won't even receive a Post Card! Unreal!

Post: #9

Imagine not knowing about paternity test and signing off on birth certificates claiming to be the father. Can men be excused anymore for continuing to fall for these traps in current year?

Guy looks like a classic blue pill Chad lite.

Post: #10

Don't be in the same room when the kid is born, and have a paternity test the moment it pops out.

Post: #11

(01-07-2019 06:52 AM)zigZag Wrote:  

(01-07-2019 06:00 AM)Mage Wrote:  Her new partner must know this story after it's gone viral.

I cannot understand men who give such evil bitches the second chance. Where do these suckers come form?

There is no brotherhood in life. It's every man for himself.

That has nothing to do with brotherhood or absence of it.

It has everything to do with common sense to stay away from women capable of such horrible deceit.

Post: #12

Sharia will fix this.

Post: #13

Does anyone remember the similar story a few years ago this guy who also found out he has been infertile his whole life and did paternity tests on "his" 5(!) kids and they all had DIFFERENT fathers who were not him! Anyone remember this insanity? About 7 years ago

Post: #14

That's pretty brutal, man.

I think the paternity test is a no-brainer today, but also never getting legally married. We keep talking about downsides to marriage, and I can't really see any upside as we keep going down this path.

Post: #15

(01-07-2019 08:46 AM)PetiteMinded Wrote:  Does anyone remember the similar story a few years ago this guy who also found out he has been infertile his whole life and did paternity tests on "his" 5(!) kids and they all had DIFFERENT fathers who were not him! Anyone remember this insanity? About 7 years ago

holy shit. that's beyond-the-pale evil... that's also probably, what, 25-30 years of child-raising, depending on age gaps? sheeeeit.

Post: #16

The level of deception in this story just makes me sick.

Plus the whole aspect of the sudden Jewish interest - she knew they weren't his the whole time. Giving the kids Jewish names so that they would have a connection to their real, Jewish father. That's another level of evil altogether.

And the way the kids turned on him. This guy is better off without them. Too bad he invested so much of his time and resources on such an ungrateful bunch.

Post: #17

(01-07-2019 06:51 AM)CleanSlate Wrote:  Yet another piece of evidence of deep and innate hatred towards men within the US family courts.

And they call us misogynists?

Hypocritical fucks.

This was the UK.

Post: #18

Sad reading. That's humiliation on a different level. In a sane world, she'd spent the rest of her life in prison.

The lesson here is that anyone who becomes a father should get a paternity test regardless of how good and faithful you believe the woman is and also making sure the woman doesn't know that you're taking a test or she could try to fake it in the worst case.

And what's up with the spoiled kids by the way? They broke off with him after he had spent years feeding them?

Post: #19

(01-07-2019 08:16 AM)Mage Wrote:  

(01-07-2019 06:52 AM)zigZag Wrote:  

(01-07-2019 06:00 AM)Mage Wrote:  Her new partner must know this story after it's gone viral.

I cannot understand men who give such evil bitches the second chance. Where do these suckers come form?

There is no brotherhood in life. It's every man for himself.

That has nothing to do with brotherhood or absence of it.

It has everything to do with common sense to stay away from women capable of such horrible deceit.

Every woman is capable of such horrible deceit. The next dude gets to enjoy her millions of dollars that she got as a reward for cucking her husband. He also gets to see what happened to that guy and I'm gonna guess he's probably smart enough to NOT make that same mistake. At the end of the day, you gotta protect yourself. This dude didn't.

Post: #20

Quote:Legal papers seen by The Mail on Sunday reveal that, when she became pregnant with the first child, Mrs Mason declared a sudden interest in Judaism and also insisted all three children were given Jewish middle names. She also refused to have them christened.

(((cystic fibrosis)))

Seriously though, how do you make it well into your 30's and not know you have cystic fibrosis? Its a terrible disease and most children with it die in infancy. If you live, and you're lucky, you can maybe make it to 40 while living a debilitated life.

Quote:The prognosis for cystic fibrosis has improved due to earlier diagnosis through screening and better treatment and access to health care. In 1959, the median age of survival of children with CF in the United States was six months.[114] In 2010, survival is estimated to be 37 years for women and 40 for men.[115] In Canada, median survival increased from 24 years in 1982 to 47.7 in 2007.[116] In the United States those born with CF in 2016 have an expected life expectancy of 47.7 when cared for in specialty clinics.

This article is setting off my bullshit detector. There is no way it can be true.

EDIT: His hands do appear to be clubbed so maybe the fact he does have CF is true. But the guy made millions... clearly he's smart enough to know that people with CF don't have vas deferens.

Post: #21

Guy sues his ex-wife for being a horrible human being, in a legal system that incentives divorce and paternity fraud BUT gets remarried after the fact?

This guy didn't learn anything unfortunately.

I get it... probably wants to "do it right"/pass on his genes while he has a little time left but he should have just knocked up another woman (via IVF if possible; not sure with his condition if possible or should be done ethically speaking) minus the marriage. He has plenty of cover to say: "Well, I had a bad experience so I'm not for getting married."

Legal marriage in the west needs to be off limits until the laws are changed to be more fair to the higher income individual. As of right now, marriage is incredibly risky and punishing for the type of person who wants to do the sole-provider/traditional family deal; which I think many would agree is the most healthy for everyone involved including society overall.

There needs to be whole paradigm shift in how the west treats divorce/child support to where the incentives are not longer perverse; no more rewarding the low income individual enormously for destroying the family. The current system encourages for things like in this story to occur without massive repercussions; it's by design and a rigged system. No divorce should be rewarded a massive pay day and paternity fraud should result in being left destitute.

In a fair world where the law isn't perverse: the moment he found out the kids weren't his, ALL of the divorce money should have been returned to him immediately. Evey cent. THEN she should have to pay him back for the paternity fraud.

If you aren't advocating for changing the laws to be fair to sole-providers, the next best thing you can do is vote with your feet in a sense and REFUSE to get married in the west. Have kids and a family if you want, just don't get married; you will still be on the hook for child support regardless but you will reduce your financial exposure significantly. If you must get married in the west, get the most ironclad pre AND post-nup possible (but that's no guarantee either since judges do whatever they want these days anyway). From a pure game/maintaining the family standpoint, I think it's smart to not get married because it gives you more leverage in the relationship and in this fucked up world, we need every bit of help we can get to keep the ship afloat.

People need to stop signing up for a rigged deal. Full stop.

Post: #22

Inversion Agenda.

Punish the Innocent.

Reward the Guilty.

Seeing this everywhere now.

I bet even many readers of this mentally skip over all the facts and say to themselves:

"Of course they are his children!"

And:

"How could he do this to her?"

I am starting to not bother with so many conversations or possible comments on Youtube or wherever. People seem to have a knee jerk reaction that they can't shake to defend awful people and criticize righteous ones.

If you disagree, they accuse you of hate speech.

There is a serious push to interpret the world as the opposite of how it really is, and many are buying into it.

There is no point anymore even giving it any emotion.

NPCs gonna NPC.

Post: #23

(01-07-2019 06:51 AM)CleanSlate Wrote:  Yet another piece of evidence of deep and innate hatred towards men within the US family courts.

And they call us misogynists?

Hypocritical fucks.

As far as I could gather this happened in the U.K. - I'm not even sure that paternity tests are legal there. In France they are not. Meaning a woman can claim you're the kid's father and there's not much you can do. Hospitals will refuse your request to perform a paternity test.

Stories like these make my blood boil and sometimes I wonder if Islam taking over the West is such a bad idea after all... May be worth it just to see those skanks receiving some much needed comeuppance.

Post: #24

(01-07-2019 11:43 AM)debeguiled Wrote:  Inversion Agenda.

Punish the Innocent.

Reward the Guilty.

Seeing this everywhere now.

I bet even many readers of this mentally skip over all the facts and say to themselves:

"Of course they are his children!"

And:

"How could he do this to her?"

I am starting to not bother with so many conversations or possible comments on Youtube or wherever. People seem to have a knee jerk reaction that they can't shake to defend awful people and criticize righteous ones.

If you disagree, they accuse you of hate speech.

There is a serious push to interpret the world as the opposite of how it really is, and many are buying into it.

There is no point anymore even giving it any emotion.

NPCs gonna NPC.

A couple of guys were discussing this at work today and I overheard the conversation. After a few minutes of discussion, they reached the mutual conclusion that, although the man deserves sympathy and the woman was to blame for a shitty situation, she doesn't deserve TOO much blame. After all, they reasoned, her intentions weren't all bad - she had obviously realised that she couldn't have children with her husband, so she gave him sons by another means. This was a noble deed on her part. Also, according to these sages, it's understandable for the boys to cut off contact with him, because of the way he treated their mother by unfairly going after her money when he is already wealthy.

Post: #25

@Horus the sad thing is I can’t differentiate between if you’re trolling or if that’s actually a current view point. I can only hope you’re trolling.