Post: #1

Hello. I thought I wasn't a noob, but I guess I am because I fell for a trap tonight. I went on two dates with this girl from my uni, never spent money on her, followed all I know about game to a tee. I got a blowjob the first time I hungout with her, and fucked her the second time we hung out. I did not message her ALL winter break to not seem needy because I told her to let me know when she was back in town. Then when our third date loomed over the horizon trouble happened...

She let me know when she was back in town like I told her to and I immediately tried to make plans with her. We made plans on Sunday for Wednesday evening. Then Tuesday she texts me and brings up this convo about "this guy" that she had mentioned very briefly the night before we had sex...

This is where I should tell you before winter break she literally only talked about this guy for 45-60seconds one time and it was clear to me he was a beta orbiter so I told her I didn't care really what she does when she isn't with me and to focus on us when we are together.

I asked her so, why are you bringing this guy up? I don't understand why you feel the need to bring him up? and she says that he wants her to be in a relationship with him, but she feels "that would be irresponsible with me" and then she told me "don't worry I haven't had sex with him" as if I cared. I told her that I wasn't convinced yet that I wanted a relationship with her, especially after her trying to pit he and I against each other to fight over her, which I explicitly told her then I would NOT do. I also told her that I could see that being a possibility way down the road once we get to know each other better, but definitly not now.

Then she says we should get together and talk then and she wanted to keep our date for Wednesday. Then she messages me Wednesday morning and wants to push back our date from 6 to 7:30 because her mom was in town and she was going somewhere with her or something (our date was just me going over to her house...) Obviously, this is a shit test, but I actually wanted to go later too because the school thing I had before 6 was canceled because of snow. I told her "that is fine, but it wouldn't be rescheduling, only shortening our time together because I have stuff to do after I see you." and she said "ok, but we aren't fucking tonight" and I replied "why test fate? see you tonight" and she replied "ok" and then I show up at 7:40 and text her I am here but she literally ghosts the fuck out of me. I wait outside for about 3 or 4 minutes, call her, no answer. I then get in my car and leave to hangout with a non-sexual friend I called up.

I am just really pissed because I feel like I got got. Like the player had been played. Like I want revenge, but I don't know how. I did think about sending some of her dirty messages and unsolicited dirty pictures she sent me to her family on facebook because I know her mom is super helicopter mom. Can someone tell me if I should try and get revenge? Also can someone please help me see where I went wrong that I don't see.

Post: #2

When she changed the time I would have just said ok.. . Your "why test fate" text sounds needy, should have said ok to that too but then physically tried to escalate once on the date. Anyway sounds like she had a foot out the door anyway, dont go on a beta rage and "get revenge", just next the whore and move on to the next one. Women flaking is a part of life. Sounds like you got emotional and it cost you.

Post: #3

(01-24-2019 12:00 AM)Repo Wrote:  When she changed the time I would have just said ok.. . Your "why test fate" text sounds needy, should have said ok to that too but then physically tried to escalate once on the date. Anyway sounds like she had a foot out the door anyway, dont go on a beta rage and "get revenge", just next the whore and move on to the next one. Women flaking is a part of life. Sounds like you got emotional and it cost you.

I did definitely get emotional after because I have literally never been stood up like that before, so maliciously planned.

I thought about just saying "ok" to the no sex message but I thought that escalating in person would come across as dishonest or something. Like I have had girls say that before and I just escalate and sometimes it works but sometimes they freak out cuz they told me no sex before I got there. I was trying to be "cocky/funny" but I guess it didn't work. Also so you don't think I should have said the thing about having stuff to do after? I did that to try and counter her putting me in her frame by changing the time. I do know that they change the time like that to fuck with you and try to throw you off your game. I thought what I did would be a display of value that would counteract her attempt at cutting me down by changing the time.

Post: #4

I would highly advise against that type of revenge. Especially involving family, friends, social media etc. That can quickly, and very likely would result in swift reteliation.

Your revenge might get her yelled at by her mother, or embarrased. Her revenge could have you up on rape, assualt charges, other things of that severly damaging manner. An extreme example perhaps, however backing her into a corner could be a serious mistake. Shes worthless, ghost her and learn and adapt to womans unpredictable and ridicolous behavior.

Post: #5

(01-23-2019 11:49 PM)InvoluntaryHermit Wrote:  Hello. I thought I wasn't a noob, but I guess I am because I fell for a trap tonight. I went on two dates with this girl from my uni, never spent money on her, followed all I know about game to a tee. I got a blowjob the first time I hungout with her, and fucked her the second time we hung out.

You got a turn
You won.
Quit while youre ahead
"Next"

Post: #6

There's a particular kind of righteous anger associated with getting stood up. It's a hard one to deal with, no matter how you rationalize it. People will always say "well just be doing something you'd be doing anyway so it's fun regardless". And there is a lot of truth to that, but not every activity is just as fun alone, and hooking up with yourself isn't fun.

I agree the best course is to just take a breather, be a little less forward on your text messages next time (maybe some more comfort game). Once you put yourself clearly in the hook up category in a woman's mind - as awesome a place as that is - she may not feel bad about dropping you when the time comes.

Post: #7

(01-23-2019 11:49 PM)InvoluntaryHermit Wrote:  I did think about sending some of her dirty messages and unsolicited dirty pictures she sent me to her family on facebook because I know her mom is super helicopter mom.

DO NOT DO THIS.

Never do anything like that, for the rest of your life, ok?


I think you lost her due to lack of comfort, you overdid the alpha act, really convinced her she was worthless and you don't give a shit about her.

So she went with the other dude who offers comfort as well as cock.

Good game means balancing the bad/good push/pull, especially after you have had sex, you can focus more on comfort and maintenance.

Post: #8

So your above dishonesty but not sharing dirty pics with her family? Um ok.

Your "game" and "trying to show value" was completely obvious, nobody is that stupid to fall for that except the dumbest of bitches. You basically made it sound like you didnt want to see her anyway, enabling her to ghost you guilt free. Go or dont go, dont be talking that nonsense nobody likes someone indecisive. Move on and learn.

Post: #9

(01-23-2019 11:49 PM)InvoluntaryHermit Wrote:  Then she messages me Wednesday morning and wants to push back our date from 6 to 7:30 because her mom was in town and she was going somewhere with her or something (our date was just me going over to her house...) Obviously, this is a shit test

Why do you think changing the meeting time was a shit test?

What do you understand shit test to mean?

What do you think happens if you just say that 7:30 is ok?

(01-23-2019 11:49 PM)InvoluntaryHermit Wrote:  I did not message her ALL winter break to not seem needy because I told her to let me know when she was back in town.

Most of this looks like overgaming.

Shift the balance so you are giving off more positive feelings.

Post: #10

Listen, I am going to make this very plain and forward- If you want to be a player you must accept the rules to the game. The bitch made a power play and you did not get the result you wanted-DO NOT PLAY REVENGE GAMES, YOU HAVE LOST THAT GAME THE INSTANT YOU START PLAYING. Go fuck other girls, keep the photos you have private, and do not take this personally-she is playing the game and she made the move that was in her best interest. This girl is a fully formed human being with her own hopes , desires, and an undercurrent of anxiety that she has to address in her own way. You are the man, be stoic, unfazed, and unemotional- decisions based on emotion are almost always wrong.

You got your dick sucked first night, you fucked the second time. You win. The best move now is indifference and a new bitch-You may just get that pussy later on with this play.

She is now with a beta she can control, let him wife the ho up -you already had the pussy-and if you behave , you can possibly have another turn later. If you pull a bitch move , become an emotional fuck nigga, and do some bitch shit-like posting nudes that were sent to you in confidence-Not only will you never get the pussy again- you will face possible legal repercussions, you will be known as a weak man not to be trusted to be discrete by other people, and you will also be exhibiting weak bitch behavior that is really shameful.

Make no mistake-I have been in your position and had similar thoughts of revenge porn, talking crazy to the new dude, and putting the chick who ghosted me on front street-But they were just thoughts and I knew better than to act on them. I played it indifferent, got other pussy, and suppressed my urge for revenge. Ultimately this play of indifference got me in a better place mentally, got me some new pussy- and I even got to fuck the BPD chick who ghosted me a few more times when she got tired of the dude she ghosted me for ( and got some serious straight up porn video of her sucking my dick , anal, ass to mouth, aggressive doggie style, and I came in her mouth-fuck nudes, video up in that ass!). If I played butthurt revenge games , none of that happens.

You still have some "Alpha" frame with this girl-Play revenge porn games, act anything other than indifferent-and you lose all "Alpha" frame and you lose the game. I say this as someone who has been in your position and worse-You must pretend nothing matters with this girl (Pretend she is fat, it helps....).

Post: #11

Its OP's like these that make me worry about beta rage revenge.

Like everyones said - you fucked this girl already, you won.

Keep things cool, go silent on her, and move on.

Post: #12

While concurring with the other posters in strongly suggesting you not fuck up, I have another reason to not do it. She might want the nudes out there but lack the strength of determination to do it herself. The "send n00dz" revenge has many ways to benefit her and ZERO ways to benefit you.

Take that energy to the gym. Keep taking out your feelings in the gym. When you are tired and content start meditating on the futility of getting "revenge" on girls. Consider how much more heavily the end of any "revenge" will injure you than the girl. Should you imagine yourself finding a route where you somehow end up on top, bring it back here to be shown the catch and why you still get hurt more.

Men things. When we get aggravated, we get that feeling that tells us to do something. Manly decision making is about maximizing your impact on the world. The effect of this is this wiring is calibrated in a way that calculates the self as an acceptable loss.

Women work differently... Women endure. Womanly decision making is wired to maximize survival.

OP, you got your dick wet and she didn't show up for a third adventure after being overgamed. You won all three dates.

This is game, both sides play. You want to get your dick wet, she wants to play in a way that maximizes her fun and survivability. In the past goalkeeping involved keeping her male relatives from killing you for getting your dick we without giving them a goat/llama/cow/pig, and today you goal keep to keep TrannyCoC out of your ass.

Learn to let go and let God.