Post: #1

Evening gentlemen,

So I'm an avid follower of Roosh, but I've also learned great techniques and tips from people like Mark Manson (especially Models) and John Sonmez (if you're a Software Engineer, you may know him). What's your opinion on those two dudes?

Post: #2

Mark Manson originally started by posting here. He has some good information but a lot of it is watered down for mass appeal.

Post: #3

Check this thread out. /thread-35249.html

In particular this post by Krauser.

Quote:I think the book is worth reading but over time my tolerance for Manson has declined a lot and I'm considering Models more like a stepping-stone book that you discard after absorbing the few key ideas. As a practical guide it is utterly hopeless - it's just blind filtering for strong Yes Girls. The actual game advice is worse than useless and will retard the development of a noob who hasn't already begun to get laid.

The value of Models is in the meta-level and not taking shit. There are a handful of very good ideas/frames in there which have definitely helped me...... because I knew enough to discard his feelgood pablum. Be very wary of the Purple Pill content, though.