Post: #1

I met a girl who didn't like receiving oral sex because she thought that it puts men in a submissive position, which she found a turn-off. A real keeper. Have you encountered cases like this?

Post: #2

This has been covered before.

When I pull out, pin her down with my forearms and stop her from wriggling away until she squirts everywhere from being licked, it's far from submissive.

Post: #3

Not for that reason, no.

But I've met a few girls who weren't too into it, had never cum that way, etc. Then I went down on them and they did a complete 180. Not big baller trolling, after all eating pussy is 'submissive' according to this broad...

I think she's consciously or unconsciously trying to control the frame of sexual interactions, which is a slippery slope and something I would shrug off instinctively/immediately. She may also feel self-conscious about her pussy, and not understand why a guy could possibly enjoy that.

There is absolutely a way to 'worship' a girl, physically, without crossing over into submitting to her in a relationship.

Post: #4

I've eaten more pussy than I've had hot meals.

Only 1% of women I've encountered don't want it. It has to do with hygiene and not because they think it makes the man "submissive". Are you sure she said that? Some guys in the community say you shouldn't do it, because it's submissive, but I've never heard a woman make that claim.

You can give a girl a powerful orgasm if you know what you're doing. It's an easy bonding mechanism. Lots of guys either don't do it or don't do it right.

Post: #5

(02-18-2019 11:12 AM)griffinmill Wrote:  I've eaten more pussy than I've had hot meals.

Only 1% of women I've encountered don't want it. It has to do with hygiene and not because they think it makes the man "submissive". Are you sure she said that? Some guys in the community say you shouldn't do it, because it's submissive, but I've never heard a woman make that claim.

You can give a girl a powerful orgasm if you know what you're doing. It's an easy bonding mechanism. Lots of guys either don't do it or don't do it right.

This is also my experience. I replied to a similar thread a while ago.

(11-28-2018 08:31 AM)firat113 Wrote:  But i think the reason some shy girls push your head away or don't want you near that area with your tongue is that they have a fear of their vagina being unclean/smelly, at least that's the fear i figured from girls that have never received oral before. Despite them being clean. Or they could simply not be comfortable with you fully yet. I mean, some girls don't even like it, or they claim that they don't, which is weird because some of the best orgasms i've given women were during foreplay with just fingers and tongue.

Post: #6

(02-18-2019 11:12 AM)griffinmill Wrote:  I've eaten more pussy than I've had hot meals.

Only 1% of women I've encountered don't want it. It has to do with hygiene and not because they think it makes the man "submissive". Are you sure she said that? Some guys in the community say you shouldn't do it, because it's submissive, but I've never heard a woman make that claim.

Yeah, I think it's very rare, that's why I brought up the subject. I don't remember if "submissive" is the precise word she used, but the bottom line is she liked being dominated and that didn't fit her fantasy.

She didn't refuse in the heat of the moment, it's something that came up in conversation before we even had sex, so I don't think hygiene was the issue.

Post: #7

I don’t eat pussy, so I need to meet more girls like this!

Post: #8

There's lots of girls that think it's soft to eat pussy.

Post: #9

If you don't like it don't do it

If you are worried about the submission aspect, wait until after you've cum in her mouth or on her face. It's funny guys don't have a problem sucking her boobs have a problem with head. I think the former is much more beta/submissive.

The time it takes to eat her out helps you to recharge. Kissing her thighs while using your finger can be better sometimes for both parties

Post: #10

Some chicks got hangups about it because they think its smelly or gross, but I've never heard its "submissive" - that sounds like a manipulation to avoid her telling you she thinks her pussy is gross.

There are many women that don't like giving blowjobs however, many think a mouthful of jizz is gross. Lets face it - it is, but bitch that's your problem not mine, get down there and suck it out.

Post: #11

Never encountered a woman who didn't like it, ever. I have met 3 women who thought giving head was gross or beneath them. All 3 of them also had men cheat on them so....

Post: #12

I have met girls, usually of the more inexperienced variety, who say they don't like it due to hygienic reasons or because it's embarrassing. Usually I just say something along the lines that I can't have sex without it, and they end up relenting and enjoying it anyway.

Post: #13

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It is submissive if you lick her pussy, but she refuses to get on her knees and suck your dick.
Never be in a position where you eat her out, but she never sucks you off.

Post: #14

(02-18-2019 11:12 AM)griffinmill Wrote:  Some guys in the community say you shouldn't do it, because it's submissive...

Some guys say you shouldn't do it if you want to avoid throat cancer.

I don't care if the risk is one thousandth of a percent - no thanks.

Post: #15

(02-18-2019 10:53 AM)roberto Wrote:  This has been covered before.

When I pull out, pin her down with my forearms and stop her from wriggling away until she squirts everywhere from being licked, it's far from submissive.

I never thought of doing this during sex. Do you think it's easier to make a women orgasm/go crazy this way because the dick has warmed them up well and the pussy isn't overly sensitive anymore?

Post: #16

(02-18-2019 07:17 PM)SlickyBoy Wrote:  

(02-18-2019 11:12 AM)griffinmill Wrote:  Some guys in the community say you shouldn't do it, because it's submissive...

Some guys say you shouldn't do it if you want to avoid throat cancer.

I don't care if the risk is one thousandth of a percent - no thanks.

Live a little.

You eat red meat, right?

Post: #17

(02-18-2019 07:03 PM)Caduceus Wrote:  It is submissive if you lick her pussy, but she refuses to get on her knees and suck your dick.
Never be in a position where you eat her out, but she never sucks you off.

Disagree here, too.

In the past, going down on a girl with no expectation of getting head back has been a good way for me to take control of the situation. I've gone out with a lot of shy girls who aren't into giving head very much. The majority of girls I've been with were a lot more shy about blowjobs than getting dicked.

No one likes someone who keeps a tally. And if you really want to keep tally, head is not an accurate barometer. A more accurate barometer would be # of orgasms.

It also shows confidence that you know what you're doing (if you actually do know), and a primal desire to get down there and lap that pussy up. Because to her, her pussy is kinda nasty. And goodness knows I think dicks are nasty too. If I get 'nasty,' she gets nasty.

Finally, I'm not a huge fan of head anyway. Most girls don't know wtf they're doing anyway. Pussy is always great. A great blowjob is extremely rarel. And an indispensable part of great blowjobs, is that the girl does it because she wants to please me, not because she feels like she owes me.

In all, us guys can cum extremely easily. It really doesn't take much for a girl to get me to cum. But a majority of girls do not cum easily, especially through vaginal sex. If you're not going down on her, whether she goes down on you or not, you're missing out on an opportunity to be that rare guy that can easily flip her switch. Paradoxically, going down on her, can make her submissive to you, as a sign of knowing your way around female orgasm. It's a big deal when you can consistently get a girl to cum in 5-10 minutes just from going down on her.

Post: #18

(02-19-2019 05:48 AM)Kamikaze Wrote:  Finally, I'm not a huge fan of head anyway. Most girls don't know wtf they're doing anyway. Pussy is always great. A great blowjob is extremely rarel. And an indispensable part of great blowjobs, is that the girl does it because she wants to please me, not because she feels like she owes me.

It's your as a man job to teach & train her.
Most of the girls I have been with were shy and/or awful at the start, but after I was done training them, can now put pornstars to shame with their amazing dick sucking skills.

Once she trusts you as her mentor & is confident doing it, she will love doing it for you just the way you like...

...and you will love her even more, knowing you are the man in her life that trained her that good.

Post: #19

(02-18-2019 09:58 AM)The Stronger Sex Wrote:  I met a girl who didn't like receiving oral sex because she thought that it puts men in a submissive position, which she found a turn-off. A real keeper. Have you encountered cases like this?

Grab them by the thighs and pull them up to you're mouth, that's far from submissive.

Post: #20

Tie her hands up to the headboard and blindfold her, tell her you won't untie her until you make her cum, then lick her pussy if she's concerned about it being too "submissive". A bitch will change her tune real fast.

Post: #21

(02-18-2019 01:22 PM)Hypno Wrote:  It's funny guys don't have a problem sucking her boobs have a problem with head. I think the former is much more beta/submissive.

Says who?

Post: #22

I rarely have a girl request eating out. It isn't really my thing either. I'd rather just get to the fucking part.

Post: #23

Why would you eat something that is supposed to be used to dispose of unedible stuff?

Post: #24

Love those girls

Post: #25

(02-19-2019 05:34 AM)griffinmill Wrote:  Live a little.

You eat red meat, right?

Irrelevant - probability is not risk management. If I found out the steak I was about to eat had a .1% chance of killing me on the spot and there was nothing I could do to prevent that, I'd probably find something else for dinner.

Unless you're using a dental dam, a girl with HPV sends it right into your mouth. That's where the risk of throat cancer comes from, not to mention warts. Your call.